sloppy gonzo

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Exactly. 0.3 is a disaster but people like it cause they don't really read into the story. I'll probably drop this game after 0.4 if some of the plot holes won't be fixed.
It's an obvious plot hole that most of us let slide tbh. It was Josy's only way for DPC to get her in the college, so I suspect people who theorized Maya and Josy were together were thinking that too.
 

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I am not a fan of retrospective storytelling (dunno if I just made it up), basically I hate flashbacks explaining crazy twists. It's a cheap way to do something crazy and unexpected so people are easily surprised. I hated it in Acting Lessons, and I would hate it here. So I hope that we get a bare minimum of things like that. I just don't like it when you explain things after the fact, instead of setting it up and slowly (or fast, it depends on the story) bulding it up to the climax.

Also when we get the explanation after month or more waiting, it's no longer that interesting, because you make up a ton of theories in your head and the explanation you get then might be something that you didn't want it to be or hyped yourself for, or it's not as good or interesting than you or other fans came up with. So all the hype might just lead to disappointment.

It's obviously hard to remember a lot of things, since the updates are spread over longer periods of time and a lot of things happens in one update, so you forget any hints that could have been thrown your way in the previous updates and then when a twist happens, it feels sudden and forced, even though it might not be so. I myself didn't see Maya/Josy coming, because there was nothing to my knowledge that would suggest something like that and suddenly it's a big deal, and I don't really think it really is such a big deal MC made it out to be. I mean, he finds out about this and immediately runs to a friend looking for a safe haven?
 

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I dont think the Maya/Josy stuff is a plot hole, its just unknown information. I think the most likely scenario is they met online. People who are gay/lesbian in religious towns (we dont know if this town is, but at the least Mayas dad is) dont openly flaunt it. Josy's relationship with Tommy doesn't seem to good either, maybe he and his mom (or dad, whichever one got with Josy's mom/dad) are also against lesbian/gay relationships. You can go to the same school with someone who is in the same grade and not interact with them much if at all. Mayas dad found out about it which caused it to end, perhaps even Tommy ratted on them which could also explain why he and Josy dont get along.
 
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Mormont

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Also be aware that Jill is getting involved more and more in the MC's business...
That she certainly is the thing is if Jill was to find out about Bella and the MC how would that go down would she confront Bella about it? or let it go? It could be quite the situation we have with those two would make the Maya and Josy situation look minor to this.

Looking at that made me wonder one thing: why is there picture of Tybalt on their dresser? Is Tybalt their son?
We don't know he could be but there is also talk that he could be just the nephew. :unsure:
 

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I dont think Tybalt is their nephew, why would they keep a picture of their nephew on the dresser? I think its likely he is adopted. His parents (who are/were) wealthy college donors died and Prof. Burke (who appears to be quite powerful, not a standard professor) and Jade adopted him because of what his parents did for the college. Its possible Maya wouldn't know about this, Tybalt seems to be the type that wouldn't tell anyone his personal information. Really, no one seems to know this so I think its the likely scenario.
 
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vir_cotto

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I dont think Tybalt is their nephew, why would they keep a picture of their nephew on the dresser? I think its likely he is adopted. His parents (who are/were) wealthy college donors died and Prof. Burke (who appears to be quite powerful, not a standard professor) and Jade adopted him because of what his parents did for the college. Its possible Maya wouldn't know about this, Tybalt seems to be the type that wouldn't tell anyone his personal information. Really, no one seems to know this so I think its the likely scenario.
His parents donate money every year - not "his parents donated money every year".

It's even possible Tybalt is not related to Burke and Jade but Burke, asslicker, is keeping the photo of the student cause his parents donating so much money.

my "That guy over there is Tybalt, their fraternity president."
my "Every year, his family donates a lot of money to B&R. It's always a big deal in the local newspapers."
 

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If he is, that's another plot hole. Also, Jade is most definitely isn't his mother. Mother wouldn't throw a photo of his son.

More likely - nephew.
See this threw me off as well when Maya mentioned the rich parents. Why didn't DPC just have Maya say: (''His parents are rich and put money in the college. But they live on the other side of the country, so he's staying with his Aunt and Uncle here''.)?

It's believable as long as you tell the reader beforehand. He either forgot or didn't think it was important enough to cover up. It's not good enough for someone to say 'Well, we don't know the full story, the rich family might be responsible for the Dik's drugs and Mansion' etc would make no sense. Considering real drug lords try not to get involved in kids problems when they send them to school while still providing for them in some way it's not believable unless the whole family are a bunch of psychopaths...

Eurgh too much thinking:

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Early on when Maya is showing campus to MC, she'll show him Tybalt and she'll tell that he's a president of ANO and that his parents are very rich and giving big donations to college every year.

Now, if Burke and Jade are his parents: why would they donate to college where they work? How could they be so rich? Why Maya wouldn't say his parents are professors - moreover, she is attending Jade's classes.

Remember, Maya is local. She would know all that.
Didn´t click the first time in my head. Will be interesting.
 

vir_cotto

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Hmmm
But Tybalt`s last name is Burke,while he looks nothing like Mr.Burke and a bit like Mrs.Burke(the hair especially),why would a naphew take his uncle`s last name?
Cause he could be a paternal uncle.

I know what is the problem here. In most languages, you have a different word for mum's brother and for dad's brother but in English it's uncle for both.
 

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My own initial thought was that Stephen had an affair with Tybalt's mom. Jade/Stephen/the mum has this knowledge but neither Tybalt's "father" (who doesn't have to be Stephen's brother, could be a third cousin for all we know), nor Tybalt know this.

Reason? Jade chose Tybalt's picture to throw first when confronting Stephen about his infidelity. What better item to throw than the very embodiment of that infidelity.
Hole in theory: Pretty brazen for Stephen to display that picture and for Jade to tolerate its presence.
 

vir_cotto

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As I said before, if they're really his parents, that would be the final nail in the 0.3 coffin and my plot-hole hunt.
For someone who, presumably, wrote the whole story beforehand, this story looks way too much incoherent and illogical.
 
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