Darkwen

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Incorrect statement.
Josy is the first crush in the game scenario and the first gameplay girl we meet. Zoey is a greeting from the past of the pre-game MC, which knocked on the door, a Chekhov's gun in the middle of the plot. His very first true love, there is a lot of unsaid and unclear things in his relationship with her.
Josy is a girl who is aware of her feelings for MC throughout the game and she is tormented by contradictions due to her relationship with Maya, where she doesn't understand what to do due to a lack of determination and courage.
Zoey is a girl who realized who is MC to her only when she lost him and the reason is immaturity and lack of experience in relationships. They both have personality issues, but the roles they play in the plot are completely different.

Would you immediately answer such a question when they tell you “you are my first true love”? I think it would be difficult. In addition, I understand why it was done this way - this is a dramatic approach to make the relationship with the girl more interesting, it creates a dynamic of friction between them so that the players believe in her like in other LIs.

DPC didn't take into account one thing, among AVN players there are groups of people who simps one specific girl and they don't need anyone else. One of the reasons why some people dislike Zoey. She is a threat for them and thier waifus:p
Josy has the determination and courage to say "I wanted you" btw something she say on path as well, but Zoey didn't up to this point anyway. The point and which we meet Zoey doesn't matter they are the first LI's for MC. They both fill the same role if your not on path. Sure MC drops a bomb when he tells Zoey you where my first love but Zoey handles it poorly and immaturely. Josy and Zoey are actually pretty close yes there are differences but they have more in common then some may think
 

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i like her too, thats why i have a almost-virgin save.
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I think Zoey is the kind of girl who would be disappointed about that. She wants the MC to conquer the world with his horsecock lol.

Not scoring at least with a few girls during their time apart wouldnt speak for the new level of confidence the mc possesses which she realizes during the party in ep9 but even more during camping at ep10 imo
 
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If you remember back when Maya and josy comes back from the hots initiation party. When patrick shows up. You get points for each answer. Polite answers gave you +1 patrick points . I could be mistaken but I am sure that is the exact same variables that is used in episode 10. Since there was no use really for the points in that episode the logical assumption should be that its now used in episode 10 to counter those patrick points you get now. Otherwise it would have been a complete waste to even put those points in there in season 2. Think what I will do with my next playthrough is be rude to him and get a ton of - points from him during that scene and when I hit the end of ep10. Have a look if he is already grumpy when rock up there. If so then I was right. If not It was a complete waste.
Yes, the Patrick points set in episode 7 do count for you to succeed in getting Maya's contract. Just check the unofficial walkthroughs.

ANYWAY,

punching him (dik choice), confronting him (neutral choice) and rescuing Maya (chick choice) set 3 different variables.

So... we're warned, I guess.

Guys, every major choice has an impact and sets a variable.

Even reading Maya's mom diary sets a variable.
 
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Yes, the Patrick points set in episode 7 do count for you to succeed in getting Maya's contract. Just check the unofficial walkthroughs.

ANYWAY,

punching him (dik choice), confronting him (neutral choice) and rescuing Maya (chick choice) set 3 different variables.

So... we're warned, I guess.

Guys, every major choice has an impact and sets a variable.

Even reading Maya's mom diary sets a variable.
You saved me the effort of going through a whole playthrough. No wonder I always end up getting the documents. No matter how rude I am towards him in EP10,

The 3 variables I did figure out tho. You have to choose one of those 3 options in relation to your affinity. Even if you have no negative points. Wrong choice for your affinity and you will fail.
 

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If you remember back when Maya and josy comes back from the hots initiation party. When patrick shows up. You get points for each answer. Polite answers gave you +1 patrick points . I could be mistaken but I am sure that is the exact same variables that is used in episode 10. Since there was no use really for the points in that episode the logical assumption should be that its now used in episode 10 to counter those patrick points you get now. Otherwise it would have been a complete waste to even put those points in there in season 2. Think what I will do with my next playthrough is be rude to him and get a ton of - points from him during that scene and when I hit the end of ep10. Have a look if he is already grumpy when rock up there. If so then I was right. If not It was a complete waste.
Being rude to Patrick giving +3 Patrick penalty
Being rude and talking about cheap blankets gives +2 penalty
Being polite and talking about cheap blankets doesn't make him more suspicious.
As far as I know, his suspicion can only grow. But it’s better to wait for the official guide from the DPC to be sure.

In the second guide from MrBubu there is something incomprehensible with a minus sign, I highlighted it in red in the third screenshot. But it is not clear what it is.
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This is soo true, or maybe it's intended by DPC, in a sadistic way, when I first learned more about Zoey I knew she was here to break home (hmm, french expression translated into english...), she's very likable (for me at least), I very much like her but I also very much like one of the main Li, this whole situation will be a pain in the ass when there'll be a choice to make...

She's dangerous
I offer an easy solution to the problem. Another save. Create the multiverse. :D

Personally I like Zoey regardless of the waifu I have at the time. People just don't like her because she didn't put out yet :ROFLMAO:
Also If she decides to start dating other guys because of this I would not mind. I just don't want her to date any of the dik assholes trust none of them. I would love to set her up with that dwayne guy from the Gym. I kinda like that dude. It would still be easy to be friends with her.
Dwayne is cool. A really successful male character and he has more balls and charisma than most DIKs. And I don’t mind if LI, with whom MC didn’t work out, finds someone else, this is a normal life situation. But some people will be furious and I'm already anticipating a couple of facepalms for this opinion. To some extent, the “purists” are silent in this thread. Well, except for that dude who whined about Riona flirting with other guys and wrote an essay about it, although it could have just been briefly: “Why DPC is cucking me?” :ROFLMAO:
You're description of Zoey and Josy is spot-on which makes it even more surprising to me that youre always judging Josy so harshly and not giving her the benefit of having flaws like every LI in badik (fortunaly).

I really like how its handled with both Zoey and Josy, they feel very human and realisticly potrayed to me (leaving out that Zoey didnt had sex a single time while away lol).

Im glad DPC doesnt give a shit about the Simps you mentioned, being so insecure about their mcs feelings is just incomprehensible to me, all DPC is doing is giving us more options.

I love that were able to play the story from a lot of different angles but i guess some people just prefer a less branching and more straight forward style .. there are enough (boring) avns like that imo
Believe me, I try to be as polite as possible here and not bring personal animosity into the mix, and consider the character from a neutral position of psychology.

Yes, creator should follow his vision and not make decisions based on the opinions of fan groups. Which he already did, unfortunately.
 

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And it was damn worth it. With Bella we really get the most serious and dark route in the game, which is very appealing. At the moment Throuple is my very last route, solo Maya would be much more interesting.

Another proof that Isabella should not be hurt. She is a broken woman trying to make her way to the light. But two young, not very experienced girls will survive this.
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I actually really appreciate where her route seems to be going. If the called for help thing is because Bella is in a really bad place after years alone and that's part of her storyline I'd like that a lot more than she's a psycho murderer "twist". It'd actually probably have more impact and hit harder that' she's lonely, depressed, guilty, withdrawn or perhaps even traumatized than oh yeah she crazy dodge that axe brawler style! It also makes much more sense why she takes such a risk with a student, the woman is in an incredibly bad place and found some happiness so isn't been logical and she's grabbing onto it.

I also have a horrible feeling that room is going to be a kids room and that's Bella's backstory. She had a kid they died and both her life and marriage were shredded in the aftermath.
 

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You saved me the effort of going through a whole playthrough. No wonder I always end up getting the documents. No matter how rude I am towards him in EP10,

The 3 variables I did figure out tho. You have to choose one of those 3 options in relation to your affinity. Even if you have no negative points. Wrong choice for your affinity and you will fail.
if MC is rude to him the first time his face is pretty funny at thanksgiving when MC suddenly shows up on his door mat.
 

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Josy has the determination and courage to say "I wanted you" btw something she say on path as well, but Zoey didn't up to this point anyway. The point and which we meet Zoey doesn't matter they are the first LI's for MC. They both fill the same role if your not on path. Sure MC drops a bomb when he tells Zoey you where my first love but Zoey handles it poorly and immaturely. Josy and Zoey are actually pretty close yes there are differences but they have more in common then some may think
It's too early in terms of dramaturgy and writing. This story arc spans the entirety of Season 3 and the Zoey/MC relationship issue will likely culminate in Ep.12.

And here I disagree, Zoey and Josy are quite different personalities, if that's what you mean. For me, Zoey is like a better and more successful version of Quinn, whose life has turned out better. If you're interested, I can explain why I think so.
 
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Well, now that we're in Season 3 we are starting to see that every major choice made in Season 1 & 2 is having a consequence.




I actually really appreciate where her route seems to be going. If the called for help thing is because Bella is in a really bad place after years alone and that's part of her storyline I'd like that a lot more than she's a psycho murderer "twist". It'd actually probably have more impact and hit harder that' she's lonely, depressed, guilty, withdrawn or perhaps even traumatized than oh yeah she crazy dodge that axe brawler style! It also makes much more sense why she takes such a risk with a student, the woman is in an incredibly bad place and found some happiness so isn't been logical and she's grabbing onto it.

I also have a horrible feeling that room is going to be a kids room and that's Bella's backstory. She had a kid they died and both her life and marriage were shredded in the aftermath.
110% pure speculation. The truth is that we don't know anything.
 

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Guys, I really liked this episode, I hope to see how everything unfolds in the next episode (I know maybe some won't like it, but I hope we have the option to date Zoey)
 
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Right DPC is giving the wrong impression. Some people are gay (about 5% of the population) and even fewer people are bi. DPC suggests that all women are bi, and open to three/foursomes with the right partners. This is simply not true. Sorry DPC, but it does make for a good porn vn. Take it from an old dood who has been in the market for longer than the law allows.

> Reread Maya's dialogue about her mom verbal abuse of Patrick, if you don't believe me.

Of course. You are completely out of touch with people who suffer, though. The truth about how Helen really feels is in that note that can be found in the hallway of their house. It has been posted here a couple of times. It is recommended reading for all BAD players, and and anyone who doesn't understand somebody like her.

It is almost time for me to go. Take care of our babies. Always remember that I love you.

Teary stuff if you are able.
And less than 1% have horse cocks... Clearly the wrong impression...

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