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I take it that's the zinger surprise from DPC's first game, right? I don't remember playing it. I might have though...
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In this case it is, I'm sorry, but there is not saving grace here, Maya fully aware of who is her father is, Its not like this is an isolated case, that she has a loving caring father, who totally unexpectedly out of nowhere, double cross her. but it is not even about trusting him, just simple common sense.
But we talking about a girl, who assumed she will get free education by simply joining a " girl band ".
would been a bit different if she well aware of what it is in it, read it and etc, but she cant do anything but to Signed it, she forced to sign it, because she has no other option.
but I assume dpc want to give some kind of redemption to every Fucktard in the game, and it would be harder to sell it, if Patric is not just a " poor broken missguided father, who only wants best but in a wrong way " type of an asshole.
- Jun 15, 2022
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can anyone help with a solution for making v.10 work with what seems to be saves that used moded mode? first free roam can't end it cause never get the talk to sage part
Is there any way to know which one was used? I just got some saves from here on the sub as I didn't want to start over from the beginning
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Lawyers break contracts all the time, it's rarely an open and shut case. If Maya could offer testimony that she trusted her Father but was deceived (something Derek could testify too) it would probably be enough.The problem is as Jill pointed out, that Maya signed a legal document, without even reading it. There is not much her lawyer can do about it, her signature is on a - so far assuming - legal document.
circumstances doesn't really matter, otherwise everyone would always complain. Artemis main protagonist signed up a paper, while he was drunk and did not read what he signed, because he trusted in his " girlfriend " and he learned he was fucked over by her, and he can't do anything about it legally.
Maya was an idiot, there is no other way to put it. But she grown so much in people eyes
There's also the qualified borrower aspect that DPC hasn't addressed. Bank's aren't stupid, they know that they can't collect money that a person doesn't have. As a teenager with zero assets and who has never held a job, Maya is far from a qualified borrower and would never be accepted as a cosigner. If it's a scenario where Patrick asked a friend at the bank to submit the loan with Maya liable, then that friend is probably going to loose their job or even face prosecution.
You also have to consider that Patrick has a lot more to loose than Maya does. Cosigner doesn't mean that you are primarily responsible for the debt. Maya always has the option to just walk away.
So there's no easy way to fix this stupid plotline
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They could always argue that Maya was mentally unfit to sign the contractYeah. It doesn't matter really, Jill's face when maya told she not read it, and she not even know what was in it, said it all. I would be surprise if her lawyer could do anything about it if it is indeed a legal ducument.
No matter what, this whole thing does not do any Favour to Maya, dpc try to soften it by saying derek also signed a similar contract but .... Yeah
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Just in case I'm missing it and something like this exists... There are no options or secrets that let you skip past tasks like watering Bella's plants in future playthroughs after doing it once, right? I play with minigames off, but paying attention to stuff like that makes trying variations annoying, even if things like gallery collectibles are persistent. I guess it's also kinda a shame that there isn't a notification in ending free roam that indicates you've finished all the non-hidden things you can do, but saves are good for bad memories.
- May 17, 2020
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the point is not that, clearly.The problem is as Jill pointed out, that Maya signed a legal document, without even reading it. There is not much her lawyer can do about it, her signature is on a - so far assuming - legal document.
circumstances doesn't really matter, otherwise everyone would always complain. Artemis main protagonist signed up a paper, while he was drunk and did not read what he signed, because he trusted in his " girlfriend " and he learned he was fucked over by her, and he can't do anything about it legally.
Maya was an idiot, there is no other way to put it. But she grown so much in people eyes
having signed is not in any space -time an absolute bond, except for signatures with blood to the devil, but even then they are usually not binding, all it takes is a timely conversion or divine intervention.
in the specific case there would then be many reasons to make the signature void, but talking about realism is pointless so let's move on.
the point is that it is not a student loan (this has already been made clear) and that Maya cannot be a guarantor of it (this has almost been made clear). only to drag the matter out a few more chapters will require a lawyer to read the document.
- Aug 22, 2022
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If you are going for specific girls (or want to do them all) I recommend installing the multi-mod, it basically highlights the choices that lead to major choices, aka turning paths on and off. (also not having to fuck around with money management is nice)
I think the true problem here is that most regulars here have been playing this game waiting for the chapters to come out every year. I just played from ch 1 all the way to ch 10 and pacing wise I haven't been having any difficulties. I get that it could feel like you been scammed out of an experience when you didn't get to see what you wanted this chapter but Im guessing that when final release is finally here (in the next 20 years lmfao) it all fits well and the pacing turned out good.
- Dec 12, 2017
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A) You are absolutely right !
B) I looked at the scene where the MC grabs the folder again today, and at first I couldn't quite figure out why it was important to DPC to have the MC point out "already paid - already paid - already paid." instead of just going "not it - not it - not it."
It suggests 2 things, one that there was a sudden influx of a considerable amount of money, no point speculating where from. And two, given that financially it makes no sense to clear all debt at his age, it felt like a man putting all of his things in order before he takes his own life.
I think Patrick is either pulling an Arwen - tying the duration of his life to that of his wife, or he just wants it all to end.
As you pointed out, we already know Maya doesn't have any debt, and it would stand to reason to assume that Derek doesn't have any either, so why go through that circus show at all ? I think it was to humanize Patrick and to set up an emotional gut punch to Maya and Derek in the future.
So, going out on a limb here, I'm guessing the documents the MC snatched will say that Patrick took out the loan for both Maya and Derek and that he put up his life insurance as collateral.
- May 17, 2020
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I will be honest, but not captivating.
too witty for DPC.
for Patrick the outcome of the chapter is still negative, the grief over the inescapable fate of his beloved wife Helen does not balance the fact that he was violent REPEATEDLY with Maya.
so Patrick remains a negative character, now, Maya and Derek may well grieve his death, but the average player? I think they would not care.
p.s. insurance could be on Helen's life
the main difference between playing it all at once and one chapter at a time is that in the second case you have a lot more time to reflect, and I don't know if that's an absolute bad thing.
the problem with Maya's loan is that it has gone past its expiration time, right now its resolution doesn't interest anyone anymore. we all know it will be resolved at some point, but the how has become a trivial matter.
it's like your friend every day telling you he has a big problem but always refuses to tell you about it, at some point it becomes routine, you don't care anymore
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That's exactly what I ment with circus show, if we wouldn't have seen a normal day in the life of Patrick, nobody would give a flying fuck about him offing himself, but now the discussion has already started.I will be honest, but not captivating.
too witty for DPC.
for Patrick the outcome of the chapter is still negative, the grief over the inescapable fate of his beloved wife Helen does not balance the fact that he was violent REPEATEDLY with Maya.
so Patrick remains a negative character, now, Maya and Derek may well grieve his death, but the average player? I think they would not care.
p.s. insurance could be on Helen's life
And I think it was supposed to be negative, that's what sparks the conflict in the playerbase. And don't get me wrong, abuse is abuse, there is zero excuse for what Patrick did and does.
But it's exactly the kind of situation that feeds both sides : will people be uncompromising or forgiving ? Hateful or understanding ? Logical or emotional ? Every single player will have an opinion on it and there is no greater "I just can't take it anymore" than taking ones own life.
I think Helen's life insurance is the "sudden influx of money", but it would work both ways.
- Feb 26, 2021
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Maya is fully aware of who her father is? Where are you getting this from? As far as we know, Maya didn't know her dad would have a problem so extreme he would do something like this.In this case it is, I'm sorry, but there is not saving grace here, Maya fully aware of who is her father is, Its not like this is an isolated case, that she has a loving caring father, who totally unexpectedly out of nowhere, double cross her. but it is not even about trusting him, just simple common sense.
But we talking about a girl, who assumed she will get free education by simply joining a " girl band ".
would been a bit different if she well aware of what it is in it, read it and etc, but she cant do anything but to Signed it, she forced to sign it, because she has no other option.
but I assume dpc want to give some kind of redemption to every Fucktard in the game, and it would be harder to sell it, if Patric is not just a " poor broken missguided father, who only wants best but in a wrong way " type of an asshole.
It's fine if you don't like Maya. I really don't care, to each their own. But there are parts of the story we don't know about and one of them is when exactly Maya's relationship went south with her dad because of her relationship choices and how much she knew in advance he was upset and controlling.
It is perfectly natural and plausible for a kid to trust their parent, so this story element is cool with me.
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I literally quoted your whole post. That's the exact opposite of cutting it up or "picking and choosing."