VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.10.1] [DrPinkCake]

[DavDR]

I literally quoted your whole post. That's the exact opposite of cutting it up or "picking and choosing."

Then you should have read the post I was replying too, that sited college humor.

 

[felicemastronzo]

Maya is fully aware of who her father is? Where are you getting this from? As far as we know, Maya didn't know her dad would have a problem so extreme he would do something like this.

It's fine if you don't like Maya. I really don't care, to each their own. But there are parts of the story we don't know about and one of them is when exactly Maya's relationship went south with her dad because of her relationship choices and how much she knew in advance he was upset and controlling.

It is perfectly natural and plausible for a kid to trust their parent, so this story element is cool with me.

okay, but in the age of smartphones and the internet to believe that even if you have no income or property you can be targeted by the bank for loan repayment is a clear case of functional illiteracy.

but of course this falls not only on Maya but also on Mc and Josy who for weeks believe it is an inescapable danger, even on Sage who thinks the solution is for her father to give a scholarship for no real reason to Maya because she told him to, Jill after her, and even worse Bella who works there in college but needs to read the documents otherwise you don't know how but it could also be as Patrick says, against all evidence, but who knows

in my opinion another pretty glaring example is MC and Bella wondering if a teacher-student relationship is possible at BR and neither of them using the holy power of google... (then 2 chapters go by and Bella tells a lie, but that's another story)

it is clear that the motivation is plot, but making all the main characters look like imbeciles I don't think benefits

 

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[Darkwen]

Joshy said earlier that it made him uncomfortable to sleep with M and J when they were still a couple, but no one felt uncomfortable about leaving their beloved Father alone on Thanksgiving, Or going to another man's house and accepting his hospitality with the intent to lie and steal from him. Am I the only one that was bothered by that?

In all fairness it was Joshy that said it, As for Thanksgiving considering Patrick is abusing his daughter I say he got off lucky if all happen is we steal the loan documents, maybe lie and maybe punch him

 

[Porthas]

okay, but in the age of smartphones and the internet to believe that even if you have no income or property you can be targeted by the bank for loan repayment is a clear case of functional illiteracy.

but of course this falls not only on Maya but also on Mc and Josy who for weeks believe it is an inescapable danger, even on Sage who thinks the solution is for her father to give a scholarship for no real reason to Maya because she told him to, Jill after her, and even worse Bella who works there in college but needs to read the documents otherwise you don't know how but it could also be as Patrick says, against all evidence, but who knows

in my opinion another pretty glaring example is MC and Bella wondering if a teacher-student relationship is possible at BR and neither of them using the holy power of google... (then 2 chapters go by and Bella tells a lie, but that's another story)

it is clear that the motivation is plot, but making all the main characters look like imbeciles I don't think benefits

Now you're talking about different stuff. All I'm talking about is a kid signing some documents because they trust their parents. That part is plausible. I'm not mounting some grand defense of Maya or DPC's over-all storytelling.

 

[BlenderGuy]

It asks me to replace the panel in my room, which I do. It clearly wants me to load a picture onto it from my phone, but I have none. So I appear to be stuck.

 

[felicemastronzo]

Now you're talking about different stuff. All I'm talking about is a kid signing some documents because they trust their parents. That part is plausible. I'm not mounting some grand defense of Maya or DPC's over-all storytelling.

yes but the two aspects are not disjointed.

okay, Maya may trust her father enough to sign what he proposes (do you read and understand every line of what you sign? really? always? even for a phone contract or an "I accept the terms" on the internet?)

but if he then tells her that this signature will force her to dig coal with her bare hands for the rest of her life some doubt should come to her

trust can't be there yet, and if someone I don't trust tells me stuff I judge impossible the first reaction should be to question it, not to keep believing it "because it's normal for a daughter to trust her father"

 

[DavDR]

okay, but in the age of smartphones and the internet to believe that even if you have no income or property you can be targeted by the bank for loan repayment is a clear case of functional illiteracy.

but of course this falls not only on Maya but also on Mc and Josy who for weeks believe it is an inescapable danger, even on Sage who thinks the solution is for her father to give a scholarship for no real reason to Maya because she told him to, Jill after her, and even worse Bella who works there in college but needs to read the documents otherwise you don't know how but it could also be as Patrick says, against all evidence, but who knows

in my opinion another pretty glaring example is MC and Bella wondering if a teacher-student relationship is possible at BR and neither of them using the holy power of google... (then 2 chapters go by and Bella tells a lie, but that's another story)

it is clear that the motivation is plot, but making all the main characters look like imbeciles I don't think benefits

I agree wholeheartedly

 

[Porthas]

Then you should have read the post I was replying too, that sited college humor.

No, you want to drag me into a conversation about DPC's over-all writing and that wasn't what I was responding to or the point I was making.

 

[Porthas]

yes but the two aspects are not disjointed.

okay, Maya may trust her father enough to sign what he proposes (do you read and understand every line of what you sign? really? always? even for a phone contract or an "I accept the terms" on the internet?)

but if he then tells her that this signature will force her to dig coal with her bare hands for the rest of her life some doubt should come to her

trust can't be there yet, and if someone I don't trust tells me stuff I judge impossible the first reaction should be to question it, not to keep believing it "because it's normal for a daughter to trust her father"

She is at the point of doubting what going on being legal and she's in the process of trying to get evidence to figure out if that's the case.

So it's plausible at the time she signed the documents that she believed she was signing a school loan because she trusted her dad.

Now her dad is frustrating the hell out of her and she's trying to figure out if he's really got her in a financial bind or not. She's already taken some steps to look into it, like checking her credit rating.

 

[DavDR]

No, you want to drag me into a conversation about DPC's over-all writing and that wasn't what I was responding to or the point I was making.

You were making a point?

 

[Darkwen]

yes but the two aspects are not disjointed.

okay, Maya may trust her father enough to sign what he proposes (do you read and understand every line of what you sign? really? always? even for a phone contract or an "I accept the terms" on the internet?)

but if he then tells her that this signature will force her to dig coal with her bare hands for the rest of her life some doubt should come to her

trust can't be there yet, and if someone I don't trust tells me stuff I judge impossible the first reaction should be to question it, not to keep believing it "because it's normal for a daughter to trust her father"

I don't blame Maya for signing it since it is her father but she should had at least look over the document

 

[felicemastronzo]

I don't blame Maya for signing it since it is her father but she should had at least look over the document

If it is right for her to trust him why should she check?

I don't think Maya, and like her an average 18-year-old, has ever seen a student loan, so unless it says big, bold and on every page "this is not a student loan" even having flipped through it most likely wouldn't understand what it is.

make account that even with the document in hand they want Jill's lawyer to read it, it's not like they read and understand it.

 

[Darkwen]

If it is right for her to trust him why should she check?

I don't think Maya, and like her an average 18-year-old, has ever seen a student loan, so unless it says big, bold and on every page "this is not a student loan" even having flipped through it most likely wouldn't understand what it is.

make account that even with the document in hand they want Jill's lawyer to read it, it's not like they read and understand it.

It doesn't matter how much you trust someone you should always read something that your singing even more so if it something important like a loan

 

[Porthas]

You were making a point?

I get it. We all have our senior moments. Sometimes I forget about the cup of coffee I made.

So as a reminder, I'll quote it.

"All I did was point out all those elements ARE part of "college sitcoms" - whether or not that's considered good writing - or whether or not DPC's writing is good/not good - is a different topic."

Now, hopefully, you're tracking with what I was talking about.

 

[Porthas]

It doesn't matter how much you trust someone you should always read something that your singing even more so if it something important like a loan

It's still plausible that she trusted her dad.

 

[BlenderGuy]

I replace the panel in the MC's room and I'm guessing it wants me to load a picture but I can't. So I'm stuck in limbo.
It's stuck on replace panel as a task.

 

[ChipLecsap]

Maya is fully aware of who her father is? Where are you getting this from? As far as we know, Maya didn't know her dad would have a problem so extreme he would do something like this.

Okay, even if we goes canonical order, even though the recent episode revealed a lot more, lets do it.

first of All Maya told us, that her Father was FURIOUS when he learned about her and Josy. She then thought he calmed down, only to put this contract in front of her, that is the big draged out loan story as we well aware.

We saw, Derek warning Maya about her Dad, we saw the her Dad leaving her room, we find out that he has a key to her dorm room, - and somehow Maya think its is perfectly fine that Josy is staying there.

only one conversation between MC and Patrick was enough for MC to be like " What the Fuck Maya?! " . And she living with this man at least 19 years now.

and the recent episode revealed it is not even a n isolated incident, but a constant thing. Derek even say when MC running after maya, that : " No, Not like this "

so to say that Maya should trust her father blindly , and should absolutely not see this one coming is a hard stretch.

you can give her an excuse that abused victims are often not blames their abusers, especially if they are family member, but yeah, she Knew what her Father is.

whether i like maya or not, is not matter, I have now have all the puzzles in place, and I can honestly make the conclusion of Maya weak explanation, that " You should trust your parent "
its makes her look like an idiot.

 

[Darkwen]

It's still plausible that she trusted her dad.

It is plausible for sure but had Maya just look the at the loan we wouldn't be here

 

[NewTricks]

I think that the next chapter will shed more light on just what is going on with the "Student Loan" document. As it stands, I don't think that the issue is that Maya "Cosigned" it. If anything, it is probably the opposite. Usually, when you have no credit it is the person with credit that cosigned it. So if the loan is in her name and it is her father who cosigned it she would control the disbursed funds. That is how it was when I cosigned on my daughter's private loan (couldn't get federal loans because we make too much per year). Rather, it seems like her father is the signatory for the loan and she is on the loan as an unnecessary cosigner who will be liable if her father defaults on the loan. But that would screw her dad as much as it screws her. When you are a cosigner, your credit gets dinged and you are subject to efforts by collections agents. I don't think that would be his plan, especially since he seems to have assets such as a home and business that would put at risk. What is more likely is that her father put the disbursed loan funds in something like an LLC or a Trust that only he controls. However, a good lawyer can ensure that Maya is not on the hook for the loan if the funds are not used for an educational purpose. What I am getting at it that the entire situation smells like shit and it is unlikely that her dad has as much leverage as he says he does. He does seem to be desperate and willing to lie or stretch the truth to force Maya to conform to the promise that he made to her mother whether she likes it or not. Or even if it is something her mother even cares about anymore.