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the interlude was a brilliant move, it made everyone swallow the transition from 6/7 months to 11 months without much objection

well done DPC!!! :WeSmart:
He himself indirectly mentioned that he needed to do an interlude to take a break from the main part of the story.
Even now, Zoey's role is unclear. The role of romantic rival can be (and is) successfully played by Josy.
 

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He himself indirectly mentioned that he needed to do an interlude to take a break from the main part of the story.
Even now, Zoey's role is unclear. The role of romantic rival can be (and is) successfully played by Josy.
Zoey feels like a future cheat bait/land mine character to mess up your current LI path. If that’s true it remains to be seen. Hopefully she’s more than that and has a proper LI path.
 
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Zoey feels like a future cheat bait/land mine character to mess up your current LI path. If that’s true it remains to be seen. Hopefully she’s more than that and has a proper LI path.
Josy can be cheater bait too. Just like Maya, Riona, Lily and many other girls. Except that Zoey can be a universal girl for cheating in all ways at the same time, not for some special ones (like, for example, to cheat with Josy you probably need to have "feelings for Josy").
To summarize, her scenes in the story are a bit disappointing, despite the excellent and emotional backstory. There's just too little of her.
 

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DPC practically doubled the development time for no real reason or excuse like 60 fps. Complaints have been far too moderate.
So people here have to bitch harder? What does that look like? :LOL:

Like I've said before, the current pay system doesn't incentivize speedy work. So unless he starts losing subscribers left and right, he's got a set income for years. I don't know many people who could resist that kind of setup and cut the development time in half then risk that subscriber base on a new game they may not like.

I don't like the development time either. But I don't think just complaining about it will accomplish anything.
 
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I figure for Zoey to be a decision aid ("LI" or "OTHERS" and backup relationship for the player of the MC on the "OTHERS" branch. I wrote a long time ago that Zoey could be a backup.

The MC can probably only get back into a relationship with Zoey if he doesn't have a relationship with a LI. Zoey is a backup. Interlude gives the player the chance to play out Zoey's affinity. The player can therefore also decide what kind of Zoey they want if they don't have an LI.
Maybe, but it's apparent to me the dev sees:

drama = entertainment

So I don't think Zoey will sit in the background as a "pick me" girl in case one of the main LI's gets dropped or something. I'm betting she will stir some shit up.

But I'm not a mind reader, it could work out as how you think it may. We'll see.
 

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So people here have to bitch harder? What does that look like? :LOL:

Like I've said before, the current pay system doesn't incentivize speedy work. So unless he starts losing subscribers left and right, he's got a set income for years. I don't know many people who could resist that kind of setup and cut the development time in half then risk that subscriber base on a new game they may not like.

I don't like the development time either. But I don't think just complaining about it will accomplish anything.
Complaining like praising something does not have to have an effect, it is simply the manifestation of a feeling, that is what it is for.

If I want to go for a walk and it rains I complain about it, it's not like I expect my curses to sweep the clouds. :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:

Then I agree with the patreon mechanism, but to go from 6 months to 11 is a huge leap, which has been completely swallowed up. Even before, times were expanding and we were complaining about it, but by days, by weeks, not by months
 

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Complaining like praising something does not have to have an effect, it is simply the manifestation of a feeling, that is what it is for.

If I want to go for a walk and it rains I complain about it, it's not like I expect my curses to sweep the clouds. :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:
Yes but you didn't answer my question. What does complaining harder on this forum look like? I mean, people complain A LOT. Nobody likes waiting a year for the next chapter to come out. Want the board to be spammed with gifs like this or something?

angry asian woman kung fu hustle.gif

:ROFLMAO:
 

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To draw objective conclusions about further development cycles and some kind of statistics, we must wait for the release of episodes 11 and 12 and see how long it takes. It is extremely premature to call something a trend now. The development of the 9th episode really took less time, because the work on the interlude also took time. So if you combine the interlude with episode 9, then combine the number of renders and animations too to be objective. Everyone became such an experts and foretellers after episodes 9 and 10. Where they all was for the first two seasons?

The math:

Interlude: 794 renders + 36 animations
Episode 9: 5037 renders + 303 animations
Int + EP9 combined: 5831 renders + 339 animations
EP10: 5868 renders + 335 animations

EP8 release date: Nov 19, 2021
EP9 release date: Dec 16, 2022
EP10 release date: Dec, 8, 2023

What's happened between EP8 and EP9 releases on the DPCs side? He passed through a lot of troubles and personal stuff at first. At second, he had to prepare the Season 2 release on Steam, such things takes time too. What else? The whole and a new "branching" system and part of the game. Brand new mini-games (you may like them or not, it's pointless to discuss, it's HIS game), etc. But still, he had managed to make a release in 13 months.

What's happened between EP9 and EP10 releases of the DPCs side? He had to took a vacation to vent a bit after years of development. He spent a lot of time on hardware upgrades too. Almost half of EP10 was made on old equipment, so the progress was slower than it would be if he had 4090s rigs in Dec, 22. What eventually? 12 months release. Safe to say that it could be a 10-11 months one, just taking in mind his 2-weeks vacation and time he used to upgrade/add rigs.

Static renders, scenes and branching doesn't slow the process that much. The animations does. He always manages his development it in the way, that his rigs constantly have to render something - mostly animations, because static renders may be produced ALL in a few weeks, posing takes much more time, but it's still simpler than doing animations, especially in DAZ3D.

In short, we have to wait and check out how it goes with EP11-EP12 this time to make any really accurate and objective conclusions, according to new episodes size, renders and animations numbers, etc. Too much negative foretellers lately. It's hard to stay optimistic, but always easy to stick to pessimistic trends and spread it around. But you'd better to stay realistic at least.

Just cut the crap, like he is milking or prolonging it purposely to earn more money. He is already millionaire. If he hadn't been fanatically devoted to his idea, he would have abandoned this game long ago, and not continued development with so much money on hands. To have so much money and continue to invest almost all your time (years!) into development - this indicates its real goals and qualities.

He wants to bring his idea to life and do everything he has in mind and implement it in the way he want. And judging by the public interest in the game, which has not faded away for so many years, but on the contrary is only gaining momentum - he is doing everything right.
 
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Just cut the crap, like he is milking or prolonging it purposely to earn more money. He is already millionaire.
No amount of bluster changes the fact that Patreon does not incentivize quick development of a project. People work for their own best self interests, this doesn't make them evil. It makes them normal. So if he feels he can "get away with" making each chapter at a leisurely pace and still earn a large income, he'll most likely do it. I would. Just about anybody would. So don't take this as some kind of personal attack on anyone.

"He is already a millionaire" isn't really an argument. One has only to toss a rock and you'll hit a bunch of rich dudes and dudette's working on getting richer. And they should. This is also perfectly natural and based on self interest.
 
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Yes but you didn't answer my question. What does complaining harder on this forum look like? I mean, people complain A LOT. Nobody likes waiting a year for the next chapter to come out. Want the board to be spammed with gifs like this or something?

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:ROFLMAO:
I do not understand the question... I don't want anything. But given that it's a thread where there are pages and pages on any topic the fact that the doubling of development time has been digested quite serenely surprises me, and I find that DPC with the interlude has nailed it. That's all
 

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I do not understand the question... I don't want anything. But given that it's a thread where there are pages and pages on any topic the fact that the doubling of development time has been digested quite serenely surprises me, and I find that DPC with the interlude has nailed it. That's all
You said, " Complaints have been far too moderate."

So I was asking what an acceptable level of complaints looked like to you. That's all.
 
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