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No amount of bluster changes the fact that Patreon does not incentivize quick development of a project. People work for their own best self interests, this doesn't make them evil. It makes them normal. So if he feels he can "get away with" making each chapter at a leisurely pace and still earn a large income, he'll most likely do it. I would. Just about anybody would. So don't take this as some kind of personal attack on anyone.

"He is already a millionaire" isn't really an argument. One has only to toss a rock and you'll hit a bunch of rich dudes and dudette's working on getting richer. And they should. This is also perfectly natural and based on self interest.
You wouldn't spend years of the best part of your life in SUCH way if you ALREADY millionaire if you're not really invested in idea and obsessed with it. You may have find the much casual and less time consuming ways to multiply your finances if you so want it. There is no need to confuse goals and concepts.

He works alone, it's a solo man project. And surprisingly it's one of the best on the "market" for years and so far. In terms of content, in terms of quality, in terms of plot, and it's "size" in general. And hurrying him in any way may just make it worse and force him to simplify things, cut the content, cut the ideas he had been planned for the game. It doesn't worth it.
 
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Porthas

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Check the Summertime Saga thread ;)
You wouldn't spend years of the best part of your life in SUCH way if you ALREADY millionaire if you're not really invested in idea and obsessed with it. You may have find the much casual and less time consuming ways to multiply your finances if you so want it. There is no need to confuse goals and concepts.

He works alone, it's a solo man project. And surprisingly it's one of the best on the "market" for years and so far. In terms of content, in terms of quality, in terms of plot, and it's "size" in general. And hurrying him in any way may just make it worse and force him to simplify things, cut the content, cut the ideas he had been planned for the game. It doesn't worth it.
Interestingly, the reason I focus on Patreon and not DPC is because I see the same trend amongst the vast majority of the developers.
 

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I'm extremely bored so I'll respond to this.
If you really hoped to amuse yourself by starting an argument,

I would like to agree with you. I also agree about the bisexual comment.
you really need to not be so danged agreeable.

Anyway, here is my offering to kindred souls if there be any:

The Author https://f95zone.to/threads/something-to-write-about-the-author-ch-7-1-stwadev.48868/

Complete with women who are not lucious babes, but have personalities that I, at least, really could love.
The MC is a writer who can no longer write, has made millions on his books, is sittling in a bar, not
drinking, staring at a wall (you know, shades of Marilyn Monroe). Enter the MG. She tells him he
is broken, but that is ok, because she is too. As we all are, in one way or the other, maybe.

All praise to the not-university, not magic dick, not inflatable women porn game.

However.
This *might* open up an avenue where they're both dating MC at the same time, later on down the road. Maybe not like the Maya and Josy throuple, exactly. But perhaps a version of it.
Well, maybe. In which case, I think Bella is acting entirely too normal. Fussing about Cathy's panties, taking the mc to a yoga class, puting him in the back of the room, and then (if you are on her path) complaining that he is staring at their butts whether he is or not. No, Bella, you really aren't in tune with the threesome mood here.

Yeh, Bella is so soft inside that she needs to act tough on the outside, like Quinn. I mean, if you are soft on the inside and soft on the outside, you might end up like Marilyn Monroe, or something. Regardless, I think far too little has been made here about what Quinn says to MC at the picnic. Are you about to get lost again, Quinn? And what have you done already? One must weep.
 

dalli_x

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Of course, this is partly his fault. Be a man and tell the girl how you feel, don’t put it off until it’s too late. His relationship problems and the drama in the aftermath are due to a lack of communication.
Her only fault is that she did not consider Tremolo as a loved one in time and may also miss her chance because of this.
In general, typical mistakes of teenagers. But if they had behaved as rationally as possible, BaDIK didn't exist in that case, and they both lived in Miami as a couple.
It's not as easy as you think. In EP9, Maya clearly asks the MC if Zoey and the MC never said the words "I love you" to each other. The MC says so that wasn't the problem, but that they never used the words "girlfriend and boyfriend".

As you correctly wrote, the lack of communication between Zoey and the MC is her fault. But they said it to each other so that they would love each other. EPP. This is where many people's thinking lies. The three words “I love you” are just three words, nothing more. These three words mean nothing if you don't show your love. This is the real problem between Zoey and the MC. They couldn't interpret the MC's gestures.

Many forget that not only does Zoey know the MC very well, but the MC also knows Zoey. What doesn't Zoey like and what makes her uncomfortable? When people talk about feelings. The MC knows that, we read that in the game. When you love someone, you will refrain from doing anything that makes your partner feel uncomfortable. This is how you show love and then you can say the 3 words because the 3 words “I love you” then have meaning.

So the reason the MC didn't say what he actually wanted to say to Zoey at the train station in Interlude was because he didn't want to make Zoey feel uncomfortable. The MC shows Zoey that he loves her by hugging Zoey when he says goodbye. Zoey, on the other hand, couldn't classify this hug and subsequently, Zoey made it more than clear to the MC so that she didn't feel the same way about the MC. When you love someone, that's how you stay in touch, you respond to messages, and you clarify when a picture comes up that's ambiguous. Zoey didn't do any of that. The blame clearly lies with Zoey. The MC acted out of love by not talking to Zoey about feelings because he wanted Zoey to feel comfortable. Zoey listened to Bret and followed Emma and Bret's example. Here's the point. When you love someone, you don't listen to such idiotic advice.

Let's move on to EP9 and EP10. In EP9, Zoey said to the MC so she hopes they can press play. So she thinks she wants to revive the relationship as it was before she left for San Diego. The word “play” is the operative word here. Why? In Interlude, Bret said to Zoey that when Emma got back from Las Vegas, it was like pressing play and the song was even better than before. But Emma and Bret made a mistake when they had sex again. Interlude meets EP9 and EP10.

When Zoey is with the MC, when he reads his mother's diary in EP10, Zoey says something to the MC. What? That the MC is a magnet for women. I'm wondering whether the MC is also a boy magnet, considering Chad's reaction in EP1. It is further implied that Zoey was expecting the MC to be with another girl, but she thinks so that she has the chance to fuck the MC again. It's not about a relationship yet, but more towards Emma and Bret. "Play." We get this “play” clue in EP8 from JB. JB thinks the MC is a "player" and Elena doesn't. Back to the topic. The crucial thing happens during the Thanksgiving party.

Zoey and the MC talk and the MC tells Zoey what he actually wanted to say to her when he left at the train station, but because he was considerate of Zoey, he didn't say it, but showed it with the hug. At the end of the conversation, the MC asks Zoey if she would have stayed if he had said that to her at the train station. And another point. Zoey is unsure and doesn't immediately answer what the MC said to her so she doesn't have to answer. What do we learn from DPC. This leaves us silent about a question that answers it. Zoey's silence gave the MC the answer.

Jacob's decision then seals fate.
 

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Unofficial Android Port for :

Being a DIK [v0.8.3] + Scrappy's Mod

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Hello I am downloading the game and will surely give you a feedback. However I have a question, the android game here is 2gb and the pc version for S1 & S2 is 7gb. Will I be missing out on something? is it minor?
 

dalli_x

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The problem is as Jill pointed out, that Maya signed a legal document, without even reading it. There is not much her lawyer can do about it, her signature is on a - so far assuming - legal document.
circumstances doesn't really matter, otherwise everyone would always complain. Artemis main protagonist signed up a paper, while he was drunk and did not read what he signed, because he trusted in his " girlfriend " and he learned he was fucked over by her, and he can't do anything about it legally.

Maya was an idiot, there is no other way to put it. But she grown so much in people eyes:whistle::LOL::ROFLMAO:
:coffee:
The signatures of Maya and Derek can lose their legitimacy under the legal document if it is proven that the signatures were made by fraudulent misrepresentation of the signatories. So if it is not a normal student loan, as Patrick told Maya and Derek, then the facts of fraudulent misrepresentation are given and can be proven by Maya and Derek, witnesses. The signatures of Maya and Derek therefore lose their validity.

Furthermore, Patrick uses the contract to blackmail Maya. This could lead to the contract being rescinded, as it constitutes blackmail. However, there is a catch, because Patrick could be convicted of blackmail. In this case, it is up to Maya to decide whether she wants to go down this route or not. It's important to remember that Maya knows that her mother Helen is dependent on Patrick and that her father would probably collapse. The only way out of this dilemma would be for Maya to get a lawyer involved and for the lawyer to put pressure on Patrick to pay Maya's tuition fees without Maya having to take the final step of pressing charges for blackmail. But in any case, the relationship between Maya and her father Patrick would be destroyed.
 
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Porthas

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If you really hoped to amuse yourself by starting an argument,



you really need to not be so danged agreeable.

Anyway, here is my offering to kindred souls if there be any:

The Author https://f95zone.to/threads/something-to-write-about-the-author-ch-7-1-stwadev.48868/

Complete with women who are not lucious babes, but have personalities that I, at least, really could love.
The MC is a writer who can no longer write, has made millions on his books, is sittling in a bar, not
drinking, staring at a wall (you know, shades of Marilyn Monroe). Enter the MG. She tells him he
is broken, but that is ok, because she is too. As we all are, in one way or the other, maybe.

All praise to the not-university, not magic dick, not inflatable women porn game.



Well, maybe. In which case, I think Bella is acting entirely too normal. Fussing about Cathy's panties, taking the mc to a yoga class, puting him in the back of the room, and then (if you are on her path) complaining that he is staring at their butts whether he is or not. No, Bella, you really aren't in tune with the threesome mood here.

Yeh, Bella is so soft inside that she needs to act tough on the outside, like Quinn. I mean, if you are soft on the inside and soft on the outside, you might end up like Marilyn Monroe, or something. Regardless, I think far too little has been made here about what Quinn says to MC at the picnic. Are you about to get lost again, Quinn? And what have you done already? One must weep.
Yeah the "bored" thing I said probably came across a little sarcastic. But it wasn't meant that way. I was just bored. Saw something to talk about and did so. So sorry if it came across like that.

I forget what Quinn says at the picnic, though I *did* do a Quinn playthrough. Most of that playthrough, the whole bodyguard thing is what sticks in my memory the most, for whatever reason.

I think in general you're right about Bella. I think if there were any kind of threesome possibility it would only be with Jill, because they're close and Jill *might* have some kind of attraction to Bella. But I don't know. Only time will tell. And probably what kind of mood DPC is in.

I'll check out that link, thanks for the suggestion.
 

felicemastronzo

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The problem will be so that it is not a "student loan" because these are earmarked and Patrick could never blackmail Maya. It will be a normal loan. We find out in the game so Patrick's credit rating is excellent. The MC reads it when he gets Maya's contract.

The strange thing is that Patrick probably wouldn't even have needed Maya and Derek as guarantors. This actually suggests that Patrick acted with intent.
Maya and Derek have no income so they CANNOT be guarantors of anything
 

Porthas

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The signatures of Maya and Derek can lose their legitimacy under the legal document if it is proven that the signatures were made by fraudulent misrepresentation of the signatories. So if it is not a normal student loan, as Patrick told Maya and Derek, then the facts of fraudulent misrepresentation are given and can be proven by Maya and Derek, witnesses. The signatures of Maya and Derek therefore lose their validity.

Furthermore, Patrick uses the contract to blackmail Maya. This could lead to the contract being rescinded, as it constitutes blackmail. However, there is a catch, because Patrick could be convicted of blackmail. In this case, it is up to Maya to decide whether she wants to go down this route or not. It's important to remember that Maya knows that her mother Helen is dependent on Patrick and that her father would probably collapse. The only way out of this dilemma would be for Maya to get a lawyer involved and for the lawyer to put pressure on Patrick to pay Maya's tuition fees without Maya having to take the final step of pressing charges for blackmail. But in any case, the relationship between Maya and her father Patrick would be destroyed.
Yes, Patrick taking care of the mother is the whole reason the loan document procurement was attempted with stealth. Neither Maya or Derek wanted to start up a ruckus in the house that would make their mom upset and possibly hurt her physical and mental well being.

So they'll probably want to resolve everything without bringing in the cops, rather they may just have a little sit down with dad accompanied by one of Jill's lawyers.
 
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Cptlwd

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yo thanks i did that. So how do I unlock them now. Do I have to play everything through again or am I missing something?
Bottom right has the word "cheats", if you click that there is an option to open all scenes, which you can see on your phone
 

Porthas

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The signatures of Maya and Derek can lose their legitimacy under the legal document if it is proven that the signatures were made by fraudulent misrepresentation of the signatories. So if it is not a normal student loan, as Patrick told Maya and Derek, then the facts of fraudulent misrepresentation are given and can be proven by Maya and Derek, witnesses. The signatures of Maya and Derek therefore lose their validity.

Furthermore, Patrick uses the contract to blackmail Maya. This could lead to the contract being rescinded, as it constitutes blackmail. However, there is a catch, because Patrick could be convicted of blackmail. In this case, it is up to Maya to decide whether she wants to go down this route or not. It's important to remember that Maya knows that her mother Helen is dependent on Patrick and that her father would probably collapse. The only way out of this dilemma would be for Maya to get a lawyer involved and for the lawyer to put pressure on Patrick to pay Maya's tuition fees without Maya having to take the final step of pressing charges for blackmail. But in any case, the relationship between Maya and her father Patrick would be destroyed.
I'm half convinced they didn't sign actual loan docs because the loans aren't showing up on credit reports - and they would - and DPC tells us about that as a clue.
 

Porthas

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I understand your reasoning, but I don't agree with it. I tried another game about a week ago and liked it. As I became a patreon for that developer as well. The amazing thing is for this developer to have started a vote in which he wanted to know what a Patreons want.
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You should also keep in mind that BaDIK's EPs are huge. You can't really compare them to the size of another VN's updates. Rather, an EP from BaDIK is now a complete other VN in terms of size.

DPC himself wrote in his Q&A to have some idea for another game after BaDIK. Many fans of AL felt that DPC ended AL too hastily. I think DPC doesn't want to make this mistake again.
You say you don't agree but you don't really explain why.

It's pretty plain. AVN after AVN has complaint after complaint of devs milking projects. Going incommunicado/radio silent. Taking their old sweet time making a game.

Patreon does not offer a contract or rebates. You don't have to start a project with clear goals and timelines and be held liable by your financial backers if you don't meet them. Patreon is a subscription service. And that, along with the trend to make just about everything a subscription service, means people lose track of them easily. It's one reason I don't use it and would rather do things like the Buy Me a Coffee.

So yeah, I can see the trend and BaDIK falls into that trend, with dev times getting longer and longer and people complaining about vague, uninformative updates that don't deliver clear goals or deadlines.

Now, if you have an argument for why Patreon *does* incentivize quick development times for AVN's I'm all ears.
 
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You say you don't agree but you don't really explain why.

It's pretty plain. AVN after AVN has complaint after complaint of devs milking projects. Going incommunicado/radio silent. Taking their old sweet time making a game.

Patreon does not offer a contract or rebates. You don't have to start a project with clear goals and timelines and be held liable by your financial backers if you don't meet them. Patreon is a subscription service. And that, along with the trend to make just about everything a subscription service, means people lose track of them easily. It's one reason I don't use it and would rather do things like the Buy Me a Coffee.

So yeah, I can see the trend and BaDIK falls into that trend, with dev times getting longer and longer and people complaining about vague, uninformative updates that don't deliver clear goals or deadlines.

Now, if you have an argument for why Patreon *does* incentivize quick development times for AVN's I'm all ears.
I don't like the word milking and there are reasons for that. A lot of people in this thread are not patreons and are not milked. The patreons who pay and feel milked are themselves to blame and want to be milked. If they don't want to be milked anymore, nobody can stop them from resigning from their Patreon account. Ergo, DPC or Patreon is not milking anyone per se. That is pure logic.

It's another thing to be frustrated with the long wait. That's me too. I would like to have a new EP from BaDIK every day. But here you should be a realist and know that it takes time and what DPC is giving us is undeniably the best he can give us. This thread is proof enough.
 

felicemastronzo

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That's the cunning thing Patrick did. He wouldn't need guarantors because his credit rating is excellent and the loans will be from Finnman Bank as soon as the MC responds to the loan documents. This bank is the house bank of Patrick's car dealership and his loans and invoice are all paid. Ergo, he has an excellent reputation with Finnman Bank. He would get the loans even without Maya and Derek's signature. So why did he have Maya and Derek sign?

He wants to control his children Maya and Derek. He takes advantage of their parental trust and ignorance about loans. DPC shows us what Patrick was once like some 20 years ago, but it also shows us what Patrick is like 20 years later.
You have not understood. The signature of a person without earnings or property is of no value to the bank, whether Patrick needs it or not.

The existence of this trust fund would not change anything, in the end it is Patrick's money too, so he is still the guarantor
 

whiterabbit23

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any idea how to stop the game from just closing after having sex with Quinn in the car? i'm in bed saying ah so good to get some rest and the game just closes....
 

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I understand your reasoning, but I don't agree with it. I tried another game about a week ago and liked it. As I became a patreon for that developer as well. The amazing thing is for this developer to have started a vote in which he wanted to know what a Patreons want.
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You should also keep in mind that BaDIK's EPs are huge. You can't really compare them to the size of another VN's updates. Rather, an EP from BaDIK is now a complete other VN in terms of size.

DPC himself wrote in his Q&A to have some idea for another game after BaDIK. Many fans of AL felt that DPC ended AL too hastily. I think DPC doesn't want to make this mistake again.
Considering how AL ended I don't think anyone wanted that to go on any long the last two eps are very hard to get through
 

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The first playthrough of this game made me realise how clueless I was at playing it.
I guess it needs a second attempt. I also massively rate Isabelle the librarian over all the other girls in it.
In case you wondered. :D
 
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