VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.10.1] [DrPinkCake]

[KАRАMBA]

Both naive and wrong

 

[ReallyNotTimmy]

The way I usually go through the Josy/Maya path is like so:

1. Get Maya to like the MC, by being neutral and going back to her after the DIK body shots party; that way you get the fingering scene.
2. Have the MC go home and fuck Josy. (If you don’t, your points with the girls might not be equal enough for them to push the beds together later.)
3. Have the MC offer to help Maya do HOT scavenger hunt stuff; then when the time comes, he can thigh-fuck her.
4. Again, be neutral by the time the MC has the conversation with them in the DIK library, which activates the throuple.
5. Make em push the beds together.
6. Have him fuck Maya at the preps party. Yes the Josy scene is hotter, but Maya needs consoling more. Josy will be jealous, but don’t tell her “we’ll try” to include her in stuff; girl’s gotta learn sometimes Maya’s gonna get some one-on-one loving too.
7. Maya goes first when they film the threeway.
8. Have him fuck Josy when she’s hiding out from Patrick. (Of course. What, is he gonna turn down easy sex?)
9. Have him do a movie night with Maya—she’ll cum from his cock for the first time. Yes he can go visit Josy, but the sex won’t be as good.
10. Threeway in the hot tub.
11. Have him fuck Josy after the HOTs party. (Again, easy sex.)
12. Have him fuck Maya at the dorm party. (Also easy sex—and Maya’s come to really enjoy sex with him.)
13. Have him fuck Josy in the gym bathroom.
14. Have him fingerbang Maya behind the green screen.
15. Threeway in the MC’s room.
16. I’m still up in the air about whether he should fuck Maya in his room, or Josy in hers. I’m figuring there will be a scene in ep 11 in which he has no choice but one girl or the other, so the ep 10 scene should be whatever balances the ep 11 scene out. If we do get a choice in ep 11, go with Maya in one and Josy in the other; pick whichever option is hottest.
17. Threeway behind the porta-potties.

As you can see, it’s fairly balanced between both girls. If I’m forced to eventually choose between one or the other, it won’t be for any lack of balance. My hope is, obviously, we’ll get eight options:

1. Josy option.
2. Maya option.
3. Throuple option.
4. Throuple-circumventing Josy option.
5. Throuple-circumventing Maya option.
6. Josy & Sage option.
7. Maya & Sage option.
8. All five LIs harem/dogpile option.

Not holding my breath for those last three.

I have yet to do a run in which the MC minimally fucks Josy, or Maya, so as to make the girl he chooses in the throuple breakup inevitable. That feels like I’d be torturing whichever girl he’s depriving. Kinda like Chad was torturing Sage by never putting out. Not cool.

 

[TimHawk]

And again you are wrong. What Maya says is important for a solo path. Why? After sex in EP9, Maya said it was so great because it was with both of them. So with Josy and the MC. Ergo, Maya would have lied in EP9 if Maya goes to the MC in EP10.

So you really think that if Maya doesn't feel so comfortable with Josy, it's a good three-way relationship? If Maya has to share the MC with someone she's not so comfortable with. Well then, have fun on your path.

Yes of course ! I don't know how you think relationships work, but the number one thing is communication ! How else do you solve those problems and feelings ? Wait for the relationship fairy to wave her wand and magically fix shit ?

Do you really think, that it's a coincidence that in Episode 7 Josy complains about Maya saying she doesn't try hard enough to make it work, just for the MC to adress it and make sure they stay tight as a throuple ?

The exact thing happens in Episode 10 with Maya, who is there and can instantly reassure her and fix it ? The MC !

1 on 1 relationships are difficult enough already, but if you add a third person it becomes infinitely more difficult. You have to adress problems right as they appear and be open and honest with eachother.

It almost seems like your solution to keeping 3 people in a relationship happy, is to pretend they don't have any problems and just stick your fingers into your ears and sing "lalalala".

Honesty is the only way the throuple has a shot, otherwise those problems will magnify and then one day it all explodes into one big mess and it's game over.

And DPC not just hints that that is the way, he makes it perfectly clear, when the MC lets Maya and Josy have his room to spend time alone to work shit out.

You solve problems, you don't run away from them or pretend they don't exist.

 

[Kpyna]

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Only one week? I expected 1 month penalty, at least

My MC always goes to his room with Maya. What's more important is what's written at the end of the threesome and what the player chooses. I always choose so that there is no competition between Josy, Maya and the MC. This is crucial for the threesome relationship. Why?

Do you get that your response in this particular dialogue is not remembered by the game? It's an RP +- moment and nothing more. No variables saved. So it's just more for your internal satisfaction, but the game moves on after that and not giving a fuck of your choice.

DPC clearly wrote that AL should not be compared to BaDIK. But I understand what you mean. But we have a clue and a decision for that in EP10. Melanie is the clue. She had a three-way relationship in high school. She was just in it for the fun of it. And here's the decision. Maya asks the MC if it's the same as Melanie's or different. I always choose so my MC wants the feelings too and that makes Maya happy. The next important decision is with Becky. Is it more important for BaDIK's player to be a celebrity or is the MC happy with Josy and Maya. Symbolism. Josy, Maya and the MC hold hands. Princesses and the Prince (EP8)

I haven't checked the EP10 game script so far, because I still have saves with permutations I'l willing to enjoy w/o spoilers, but something tells me that this is only +-RP moment again. At least the official guide says so (off guide hides a tons of shit as well, but really important things are always marked there as "character will remember your choice").

Now I will try to convey the meaning of what I mean.

In the Throuple branch, Mel warns them that it was a cool experience, but it ended quite quickly and advises them to enjoy every moment while it lasts. The dialogue with Maya and, in general, the moral of this branch is that if they don't want to "burn out" in a months and end in the same way as Mel did, then they need to talk, communicate and give their best - discuss their feelings, discuss their plans for the future, fight obstacles they have or may meet, and not hush them up or just not talk about them. Both Josy & Maya hide things. Well, we learned a tons of stuff about Maya, While Josy keeps a lot of things to herself and not sharing.

In case of Throuple break up scenario Josy (and Maya too) starts to express their feelings when it's too late. Josy even says that she haven't got a chance to show MC the real her in a relationship. If they will forget about feelings and concentrate on having fun and fooling around, Throuple is doomed, it's just a question of time. They need to discuss things, how they feel, what they afraid of, etc, etc, etc. Sage branch get a good clue how it should be done.

DPC using this duality things and spreading valuable puzzle pieces through the whole game.

We'll see where it will go with Throuple in EP11 and EP12.

 

[KАRАMBA]

Only one week? I expected 1 month penalty, at least

It's not a penalty yet.
As a penalty, he will apply a a special kind of punishment - large-scale Madame animation.

 

[Kpyna]

It's not a penalty yet.
As a penalty, he will apply a a special kind of punishment - large-scale Madame animation.

Calm down, only one Madame scene is left (grayed out option). DPC will probably even put it only in EP12. To compensate, you know.

 

[KАRАMBA]

Calm down, only one Madame scene is left (grayed out option). DPC will probably even put it only in EP12. To compensate, you know.

OK, whatever you say.
But I wouldn't underestimate his cruelty and perfidy.

 

[Darkwen]

Don't you start too. I'm not DPC.

Wait a minute. There's a camera at the HOTs. The Kinky Cam from Elena. But apart from that, probably nothing else, because the wild parties take place at the DIKs.

I know but I couldn't pass up the chance

 

[felicemastronzo]

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a week is now a drop in the ocean

 

[Darkwen]

I thought those ceiling lights were flies hanging around her for a second then. And oh how fitting that would have been.

You sound jealous

 

[1000Spiders]

“Not a lot of porn in this porn game, is there?” she commented. Well if you make Tremolo a slut who fucks everything, there is! But not so much when you’re monogamously pursuing only one love interest. Still, like the rest of us, the story caught her interest. I love how she’s catching the stuff I don’t. We’ll get to episode 3 some other night.

I'm really enjoying hearing your girl's third-hand thoughts on this game, but I do worry she's about to run into a massive hurdle. Specifically at the end of EP3/start of EP4, when MC throws his little bitch-tantrum at Josy and Maya for "leading him on" when she's done her best to stay away from both of them. Hope she doesn't just quit on the spot when that happens.

ReallyNotTina is going for Sage in this run

She's aware at this point in the game that Sage is still with Chad and has no intention of leaving him, right? She's just cheating on him with MC as revenge for him cheating on her. So by making Tremolo "monogamous" to Sage this early in the game she's essentially simping for a taken woman.

Something to think about.

Edit: Also looking forward to hearing her excoriate MC for his "rebound guy" talk with Sage after she gets dumped by Chad. Assuming she makes it that far, that is.

 

[Daandas]

200 renders and 50 animation for 1 scene ... the fuck is DPC doing, shooting a 1h long porn?

 

[dalli_x]

Only one week? I expected 1 month penalty, at least


Do you get that your response in this particular dialogue is not remembered by the game? It's an RP +- moment and nothing more. No variables saved. So it's just more for your internal satisfaction, but the game moves on after that and not giving a fuck of your choice.



I haven't checked the EP10 game script so far, because I still have saves with permutations I'l willing to enjoy w/o spoilers, but something tells me that this is only +-RP moment again. At least the official guide says so (off guide hides a tons of shit as well, but really important things are always marked there as "character will remember your choice").

Now I will try to convey the meaning of what I mean.

In the Throuple branch, Mel warns them that it was a cool experience, but it ended quite quickly and advises them to enjoy every moment while it lasts. The dialogue with Maya and, in general, the moral of this branch is that if they don't want to "burn out" in a months and end in the same way as Mel did, then they need to talk, communicate and give their best - discuss their feelings, discuss their plans for the future, fight obstacles they have or may meet, and not hush them up or just not talk about them. Both Josy & Maya hide things. Well, we learned a tons of stuff about Maya, While Josy keeps a lot of things to herself and not sharing.

In case of Throuple break up scenario Josy (and Maya too) starts to express their feelings when it's too late. Josy even says that she haven't got a chance to show MC the real her in a relationship. If they will forget about feelings and concentrate on having fun and fooling around, Throuple is doomed, it's just a question of time. They need to discuss things, how they feel, what they afraid of, etc, etc, etc. Sage branch get a good clue how it should be done.

DPC using this duality things and spreading valuable puzzle pieces through the whole game.

We'll see where it will go with Throuple in EP11 and EP12.

Don't you get it? The point is, so that what the MC says to Josy and Maya, whether Josy or Maya likes it, because that's the only way the RPs exist. What will Josy and Maya like? If the three-way relationship works. So you read the text and decide accordingly. The RPs only indicate whether Josy and/or Maya like it.

Everyone has their secrets and the MC is not excluded. I don't think so Josy and Maya know what all the MC did in EP2. Quinn sex on the cum petition and Isabella. For example, Josy didn't tell the MC so Oscar would make out with her and we don't know who Maya dated either. Everyone has their secrets. That's not unusual and also keeps a certain tension in a relationship, which is good.

You touch on the situation with Melanie. Good point because it's a further clue as to how the player should proceed if they want the three-way relationship. The clue is whether it's just fun or whether it's also about the feelings. What happens when Maya goes to MC? He is not with Josy. That's the only way to show Josy in EP10 that the MC has feelings for Josy and that Josy has had a crush on the MC for a long time. Maya, on the other hand, has two options in EP10. Maya and the MC can show their feelings for each other during Thanksgiving at the Bailey house. So it's either 2:0 for Maya or 1:1 for the three-way relationship.

Josy also asks the MC if he would fuck Arieth. When he says no, Josy said so that's a firm no two and the MC answers so she can't hold it against him because he has two beautiful girlfriends. While the MC was with Zoey, he never called her Girlfriend.

 

[Kpyna]

instead of arguing from DPC's Bible text and you people interpreting in your own way, why don't think why DPC did the episode so small 5800 renders when having so many paths, ep. 9 had 8000 renders for one party night, why relationship paths are non-existent (just cheap thrills) in the episode filled with temptations that are not properly tailored for a relationship (no quality of life feature like a warning sign in top of Elena that she will spank you etc.), bonding twice with the ex-girlfriend, at the camping party your proper girlfriends probably looking at you with despair from a few meters away.

-- Changelog v0.9.0 --
Added Episode 9 that includes
5037 renders
303 animations
12 2D-art pieces
5 2D-art animations
30 songs
13 sound effects

-- Changelog v0.10.0 --
Added Episode 10 that includes
5868 renders
335 animations
8 2D-art pieces
4 2D-art animations
31 songs
66 sound effects

5k renders per update - "small" ? any competitors?

 

[Darkwen]

instead of arguing from DPC's Bible text and you people interpreting in your own way, why don't think why DPC did the episode so small 5800 renders when having so many paths, ep. 9 had 8000 renders for one party night, why relationship paths are non-existent (just cheap thrills) in the episode filled with temptations that are not properly tailored for a relationship (no quality of life feature like a warning sign in top of Elena that she will spank you etc.), bonding twice with the ex-girlfriend, at the camping party your proper girlfriends probably looking at you with despair from a few meters away.

EP9 had 5037 renders if your going to make a lame ass point at least come with real facts

 

[anonnyscouse]

instead of arguing from DPC's Bible text and you people interpreting in your own way, why don't think why DPC did the episode so small 5800 renders when having so many paths, ep. 9 had 8000 renders for one party night, why relationship paths are non-existent (just cheap thrills) in the episode filled with temptations that are not properly tailored for a relationship (no quality of life feature like a warning sign in top of Elena that she will spank you etc.), bonding twice with the ex-girlfriend, at the camping party your proper girlfriends probably looking at you with despair from a few meters away.

Every episode (except the interlude) has had more renders than the one before, which is what is making updates longer and longer. I'm not sure where you are getting "small episodes" from.

 

[ReallyNotTimmy]

instead of arguing from DPC's Bible text and you people interpreting in your own way…

…bonding twice with the ex-girlfriend, at the camping party your proper girlfriends probably looking at you with despair from a few meters away.

Speaking of interpreting things in your own way… despair?

If you reuse the images in multiple paths, you clearly don’t need as many. I don’t care how many renders there are in an episode; I care about scenes and dialogue and whether the plot advances.

It’s nice that DPC generates 10 to 20 renders to show two people have a conversation, but your average game uses maybe two: One with the conversation partner’s mouth open, and one with it closed. And DPC could get away with two too, if he feels pressed for time… or wants to invest more time into developing a mini-game which I never intend to play.

I likewise don’t mind if Elena and John Boy want to fuck the MC. Unless there’s no option in the next episode to say no. In the paths where Tremolo has a girlfriend, I’m saying no; in the paths where he doesn’t… maybe? Might be fun. Might be weird, sick, and wrong—which can be fun in another way.

 

[Kpyna]

Don't you get it? The point is, so that what the MC says to Josy and Maya, whether Josy or Maya likes it, because that's the only way the RPs exist. What will Josy and Maya like? If the three-way relationship works. So you read the text and decide accordingly. The RPs only indicate whether Josy and/or Maya like it.

It's the point. But +-1 RP gives nothing when you have 100+ already, while variables is a big deal, because you choice can be recalled in one way or another.

Regarding keeping the balance between them in S3 and picking one girl or another it's too early to make any assumptions and consequences. It also depends on your previous choices in Season 2 as well.

As for me I usually pick EP5 for Josy, EP7 for Maya, because it's more right and gives important outcomes in both cases. Reversed choice still keeps the balance, but screwing things up.

 

[GifMeMore1987]

ReallyNotTina and I did episode 2 last night.

She used to work in law enforcement back in the ’00s, so she immediately notices all the illegal shit. “Yup, that’s felony assault.” “Yup, that’s felony kidnapping.” “Yup, that’s felony rape.” You do realize you can’t just put a guy’s dick in you while he’s tied to a chair, right? No more than you can put your dick into someone else when she’s tied down. Consent, folks. Doesn’t matter how hot it seems to act first and get permission later; ignore everything Revenge of the Nerds taught you. No consent means prison, where rapey inmates don’t seek consent either.

She’s not familiar with any injectable recreational drug, like the one Quinn and Tommy take at the top of the episode, which isn’t addictive. I’m not either. Probably Quinn was lying. First taste makes you a hopelessly hooked regular customer.

When Tommy says to the blindfolded pledges, “Do you wish to rise and become a DIK?” and Tremolo says (your choice, of course), “No?”—it means he legally didn’t give verbal consent to anything which followed. If Tommy wanted to cover his ass legally, he should’ve demanded a yes, and kicked Tremolo’s ass out of there if he didn’t get one. “We were just having fun” is a shitty legal defense for rape. But we already know Tremolo never tells on anybody… well except Chad, and even then he really didn’t wanna.

ReallyNotTina was amazed at the CUM-petition, and had a lot of comments.

• “Have you seen or done that before?” Never. Nor since. I hadn’t even heard of it before BaDIK. I thought it was Dr. PinkCake’s warped invention till others on this forum said he swiped the idea from a movie. In the frats at my college, the competitions were never about who splooges last, but first—who can fill a cup soonest, or who can ejaculate into a hot dog bun first (and the loser has to eat the bun without puking). Edging isn’t really a thing with horny teenagers. Doesn’t have to be, when your refractory period is five minutes! They want gratification right the fuck now—and too many don’t even care if the girl doesn’t cum.​

• “So if you jizz last, you win? So the DIKs want guys who don’t jizz?” I don’t think Tommy’s ever thought that all the way through; I’m not sure he thinks anything all the way through. As homophobic as he is, he’s unwittingly made it really easy for closeted gay dudes to become maggots.​

• “They can’t do that in strip clubs. It would get them shut down.” Well the girls in the scene aren’t strippers; they’re whores. But yeah, it’s stated later that in previous CUM-petitions they used strippers. Direct genital stimulation, even with clothes on, even in a private room, is illegal—or was in ReallyNotTina’s jurisdiction. (In Sweden, DPC’s homeland, it’s legal to sell sex, but illegal to buy it—i.e. it penalizes only the john, so strippers won’t get in any trouble whatsoever for going as far as they wish.) Lap dances never touch your no-no place. Without consent it’s assault; with consent it’s prostitution. “Boy are you gonna have a lot of comments later about the Pink Rose,” I told her—“you’ll see.”​

• “Would you do one?” Only with you, I told her. Certainly not with an audience of cheering frat boys. “If it’s only me, who would you be competing with?” Well, you. You’re gonna cum first. You’re going down, woman. (Not literally. You know what I mean.)​

• “What if the guys were really good at holding out, or the girls were really shitty at turning them on? Would the spectators really sit there and watch this for 10 straight minutes? Wouldn’t Tommy have to shut everything down if nobody cums after 20 minutes?” Probably; or he’d somehow try to escalate things; or he’d finally realize all this year’s pledges were gay. Again, I don’t think Tommy (or DPC) thought this all the way through. But yeah, I wouldn’t stick around to watch. Probably wouldn’t watch in the first place; I’d talk to my date or something. Live public sex acts aren’t my thing.​

• “What’s with Quinn’s makeup?” Yeah, it’s not my thing either. She looks better without. The lighting in the CUM-petition scene makes it look like her face and body are two different colors, which implies really bad makeup skills. But yeah, it’s just lighting. I explained the little trees next to her eyes are an homage to her dad’s tattoos, but didn’t spoil it further.​

• “You have to swallow the condom? Is it an edible condom?” I would hope so. Lubricated or not, I wouldn’t want to get that goddamn thing tangled in my intestines. But the game never says. Forcing people to swallow bodily fluids, she also pointed out, is a crime, and she’s pretty sure being forced to swallow your own babies is included. Since Quinn pulls off the condom before Tremolo fake-cums, there’s no semen in it anyway. Derek, if he loses, might have a case—but he did give consent.​

ReallyNotTina got really pissed at how Tremolo didn’t tell Maya about Quinn. Cuz she eagerly picked “Tell her what you know,” but he actually doesn’t. We know the MC knows Quinn is pimping the girls, but all he tells Maya is “Just… don’t trust her, Maya. Please!” I mean yeah, Quinn told him during the CUM-petition that she’s “innocent, and it’ll stay that way, got it?” but that’s only a mild threat, and if she ever tries violent retribution, he can kick her in the pussy, get away, and go talk to actual cops. But the MC really should have warned Maya, “She sells ass. Stay the hell away from her!” He doesn’t. Goddamn him.

ReallyNotTina is going for Sage in this run, so she didn’t have the MC stick around to party with Maya, and didn’t have him fuck Josy on his date back home. “That’d be wrong, right?” I told her she doesn’t have to be monogamous; it’s only a game. But she doesn’t wanna. So the only sex scenes she’s seen so far are Tremolo’s wet dreams of Cathy, and when he finally gets to titty-fuck Sage. She thinks the wet dreams are dumb, but I pointed out once Tremolo starts having regular sex, they stop—same as real life.

Since she’s not going for Jill or Bella, she didn’t understand why on earth the MC agreed to dinner with Bella. Which I never even thought about: if you’re not interested in Jill (especially after she ditched the MC for Tybalt, of all people), why would you need to impress Bella? Why say yes to dinner? Yet even if my actions indicate I don’t want the MC to pursue Bella, it’s locked into the game: he drunkenly makes out with her, fondles her tits, and gets her all masturbatory. Cuz y’know, sexy drama.

“She wants him too though,” ReallyNotTina said, “She said ‘I’m doing this for Jill,’ but she wants him.”

“Well, she has seen his 14-inch cock,” I said.

“Yeah that’d definitely get my attention,” she said. “But when she’s talking to him later, on the couch when they make out? She’s wearing a see-through negligee, a see-through nightgown, and a G-string. You don’t wear that to sleep in; you wear that to take off and fuck. She wants to fuck him but she’s in self-denial.” Yeah, she’s got Bella’s number.

“Not a lot of porn in this porn game, is there?” she commented. Well if you make Tremolo a slut who fucks everything, there is! But not so much when you’re monogamously pursuing only one love interest. Still, like the rest of us, the story caught her interest. I love how she’s catching the stuff I don’t. We’ll get to episode 3 some other night.

Looking forward to reading what your pervy uncle ReallyNotTony has to say about the game!

 

[dalli_x]

It's the point. But +-1 RP gives nothing when you have 100+ already, while variables is a big deal, because you choice can be recalled in one way or another.

Regarding keeping the balance between them in S3 and picking one girl or another it's too early to make any assumptions and consequences. It also depends on your previous choices in Season 2 as well.

As for me I usually pick EP5 for Josy, EP7 for Maya, because it's more right and gives important outcomes in both cases. Reversed choice still keeps the balance, but screwing things up.

That is the crux of the matter. DPC has changed something with the update. Before, the half sex with Quinn was not counted in the cum petition. After the update it was counted and so I didn't reach the 100 RP limit. I can only get 96 RP.

I think EP4 is the most important for the throuple because you can rule it out from the start. I also always choose Josy in EP5 and Maya in EP7. I completely agree with you, otherwise the balance would get mixed up.

However, the balance between Josy and Maya is easy to understand thanks to the Girls extension in the cell phone. In my case, Josy and Maya each have 9 interactions with the MC.