VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.10.1] [DrPinkCake]

[znar25]

It is interesting to talk about the Maya and Josy relationship dynamic when you are not on their route, but it isn't really productive to say who is better or worse when it comes to the MC. I will say that Josy's feelings for the MC are deeper than Maya's... or perhaps she is merely more sensitive and in touch with her feelings. It is interesting that if you break their hearts on Halloween not only is Maya instantly forgiving but perhaps a little too cool with it. She still gives him the opportunity to feel up her stockings (a cheat option if on a relationship path) and does that weird ASMR shit with him. Josy, meanwhile, seems to cultivate a seething enmity in the same period of time. I honestly hate that route because of how hurt she is. If you break her heart earlier in the ruined library. You get two scenes of her crying, one after she meets her father and the other after they have the near-miss encounter with Patrick.

I'm actually trying to go somewhere with this. The way that Josy and Maya respond to treatment by MC has a great deal to do with their relationships with their fathers. Maya is accustomed to trying to appease her father because of the abusive relationship dynamic. This is why she bends over backward to accommodate MC even when he hurts her. This pleases us as a player, but it is clearly unhealthy. Josy, meanwhile, has even more complex feelings about her father. She loves him, but he is kind of a dirtbag in his own special way. She makes excuses for him even though he lied, cheated, and hurt her mom. She has difficulty resolving these two conflicting feelings and low-key blames her mom for not keeping her dad happy. So how does she react when MC discards her? Rage turned inward. She turns on herself just like she turned on her mom, and Jesus Christ is that a sad thing to see. Yet she is also angry at MC for making her feel that way, even if she knows that he meant no harm and that she and Maya made this relationship difficult for him every step of the way.

The point I am making is that Josy and Maya are daddy issues squared. This doesn't mean that they aren't my favorite romance path. It just means that we understand them a little better if we don't romance them.

The Josy break-up path was crushing to experience.

 

[znar25]

Maybe some preview next week, or I ask that much.

There is plenty of time until February or March....

... of 2025

 

[DavDR]

There is plenty of time until February or March....

... of 2025

Optimist

 

[znar25]

The vibe with Josy was more intimate it easy to say Josy was questioning herself but if MC had kiss her or started touching her then yeah Josy would had let it happen and gone all the way. With Maya you can call it a simple touch but that can just as easy get out of hand which to me that would be Maya starting something of course you can say the same about Josy the difference being despite wanting it to happen she didn't do anything and either did MC

I think a simple answer is OK in this situation.

For either of them, MC (especially CHICK-MC) is unlike any "boy" they have met before. And ticks all the boxes; is enjoyable to be around and so on.

It is difficult with all that, to fight human nature in regard to a female seeking a male.

Overwhelming even.

Example: chart all the comments* Sage uses to describe MC. MC is again, unlike anything she has ever experienced before. That is difficult to ignore in the male-female human dynamic.

*

 

[Hentai7891]

for the A WHOLE YEAR of wait 10.1 kinda disappointments. there no surprise new girl(scene), no scene for nerd girl(blueball), and there are one scene seem like being reuse just for other character.

 

[KaiserPyro]

Is it a bad idea to pick body shots in any route that isn't others? I know Bella isn't too happy about it, how about the rest of them? And do you get cheating points for it?

 

[ReallyNotTimmy]

Coming back home for Thanksgiving is the best opportunity. Jill wanted herself to meet MC dad, too. Sage won't mind. Bella... well, if MC really treat this relationship right and want it to grow, then he have to. Otherwise, what's the sense? Live in secret, even hiding things from your own dad? Same goes for Throuple. His dad will be absolutely ok and probably even proud of his son. Confused, but ok. There's nothing to be ashamed of in both cases.

Pretty sure Neil will only be confused by how it came to happen. Kids have the bad habit of thinking they’re the first to try something. “Well son, I don’t think I ever told you this, but your great-great-great-grandmother was a member of the Oneida Community, where everybody was married to everybody else. You couldn’t call that a throuple; more like a 300-ple, I guess. I think I still have some of their silverware.”

 

[NewTricks]

Is it a bad idea to pick body shots in any route that isn't others? I know Bella isn't too happy about it, how about the rest of them? And do you get cheating points for it?

It varies. Most of the love interests aren't even there because they are with the HOTs or the strippers who show up even later. However, if you do choose not to try to win the contest with Becky you will have two opportunities to rack up cheating points by getting too frisky with your partner Tiffani. I don't think that either Maya or Josy would be all too thrilled to hear about you licking shots off of Becky's skank ass, though. However, Zoey is weirdly into it when she watches you.

 

[PayneToTheMax]

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[Sun of Rome]

These flashbacks, where MC remembers what the girls said, can be different. Depends on what route you are on and everyone has scenes except Sage (I don't know why DPC ignored her)
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I think it has to do with these "feelings for Josy" or "feelings for Maya" variables. I haven't really tried playing without feelings for either of them on other branches. Because it seems pretty realistic to me that MC retains some feelings for one of the girls after the breakup in ep4 and only tries to forget Josie or Maya during season 2.
Maybe DPC really forgot about it or there wasn't a proper scene when Sage talks about it. Or he did it intentionally to emphasize how important Josy/Maya is in MC's life.

 

[Joshy92]

The reason Maya doesn't react like Josy if you break up with them is because Maya is used to being disappointed in men.
And she is more in control of her emotions than Josy is.

 

[Sun of Rome]

I think a simple answer is OK in this situation.

For either of them, MC (especially CHICK-MC) is unlike any "boy" they have met before. And ticks all the boxes; is enjoyable to be around and so on.

It is difficult with all that, to fight human nature in regard to a female seeking a male.

Overwhelming even.

Example: chart all the comments* Sage uses to describe MC. MC is again, unlike anything she has ever experienced before. That is difficult to ignore in the male-female human dynamic.

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I think it's a little more complicated than that.
All these words are the preparation of motivation for some characters and their actions in the future.
This game certainly has a mosaic system and character motivation starts to look fuller when we play on all branches and look at all options, but it doesn't always work.
Sometimes a character's motivation only works on a certain branch and in a certain situation, not as a whole.
DPC's view of the game is different from our view after all. He looks at the game in the long term, namely when the game comes out fully finished in the steam, it will have about 60-70 hours of playthrough, about a hundred variables, and over 20 endings.
A new player will not replay all branches, one, at most, two playthroughs will be enough for him. But that's when the player should be given more options.
This is what explains some of the strange decisions. Such as, for example, that Maya suddenly starts liking MC Dik even if before that she was running from him , and he himself ignored her deliberately the whole game. It certainly looks strained, but it will work in the long term when the player wants to break up with his girlfriend and try to date another. Or it's just an option for a cheating scene or some variant of a threesome.
I'm sure there will be endings, and even ones as unexpected as Jill being able to date a Huge DIK. But the main thing is how DPC will play it out and how well motivated it will all be.

 

[Joshy92]

I don't like that Maya likes a dik MC.
She should be exclusively a chick LI.
Like Quinn is for a dik MC.

 

[Sun of Rome]

I don't like that Maya likes a dik MC.
She should be exclusively a chick LI.
Like Quinn is for a dik MC.

I think the endings with Maya, Sage, Josy, Zoey and probably Riona will be universal for all players regardless of their playthrough style.
The endings with Jill and Quinn will probably depend on their playstyle.

 

[Joshy92]

I think the endings with Maya, Sage, Josy, Zoey and probably Riona will be universal for all players regardless of their playthrough style.
The endings with Jill and Quinn will probably depend on their playstyle.

I think you might be right.
I'm still salty I can't have Quinn as a chick mc though.

 

[znar25]

I don't like that Maya likes a dik MC.
She should be exclusively a chick LI.
Like Quinn is for a dik MC.

Because you get a fat royalty check every month because DPC patterned CHICK-MC after you!

 

[felicemastronzo]

It is interesting to talk about the Maya and Josy relationship dynamic when you are not on their route, but it isn't really productive to say who is better or worse when it comes to the MC. I will say that Josy's feelings for the MC are deeper than Maya's... or perhaps she is merely more sensitive and in touch with her feelings. It is interesting that if you break their hearts on Halloween not only is Maya instantly forgiving but perhaps a little too cool with it. She still gives him the opportunity to feel up her stockings (a cheat option if on a relationship path) and does that weird ASMR shit with him. Josy, meanwhile, seems to cultivate a seething enmity in the same period of time. I honestly hate that route because of how hurt she is. If you break her heart earlier in the ruined library. You get two scenes of her crying, one after she meets her father and the other after they have the near-miss encounter with Patrick.

I'm actually trying to go somewhere with this. The way that Josy and Maya respond to treatment by MC has a great deal to do with their relationships with their fathers. Maya is accustomed to trying to appease her father because of the abusive relationship dynamic. This is why she bends over backward to accommodate MC even when he hurts her. This pleases us as a player, but it is clearly unhealthy. Josy, meanwhile, has even more complex feelings about her father. She loves him, but he is kind of a dirtbag in his own special way. She makes excuses for him even though he lied, cheated, and hurt her mom. She has difficulty resolving these two conflicting feelings and low-key blames her mom for not keeping her dad happy. So how does she react when MC discards her? Rage turned inward. She turns on herself just like she turned on her mom, and Jesus Christ is that a sad thing to see. Yet she is also angry at MC for making her feel that way, even if she knows that he meant no harm and that she and Maya made this relationship difficult for him every step of the way.

The point I am making is that Josy and Maya are daddy issues squared. This doesn't mean that they aren't my favorite romance path. It just means that we understand them a little better if we don't romance them.

Josy and Maya's relationship toward MC is profoundly different.
between Josy and MC there is essentially a crush, they saw each other and liked each other, they don't really know each other that much, they first talked to each other the day before MC left for college.
Whereas between Maya and Mc on the contrary they started from a friendship that then, eventually became something else.
Josy not wanting to remain friends with MC after the breakup makes absolute sense, because they 2 have never been friends in their lives, and for the same reason it makes sense that Maya on the other hand all in all is fine with still staying in touch with MC, because MC is still one of the few people she trusts.

to this is also added a plot reason, Josy may prefer MC to Maya, Maya does not, the fact that she is more comfortable with MC is a very soft statement, which one can make even to a friend when one is in a complicated relationship. if Maya wanted to have an exclusive relationship with MC she would have solved the loan problem, and DPC cannot allow that.

 

[NewTricks]

I think you might be right.
I'm still salty I can't have Quinn as a chick mc though.

The funny thing is that you can have Envy/Nicole route as a Chick MC even though you need to make two major DIK decisions just to get on her route (do DIK stuff at the strip club and go with Tommy to the Milf bar) and you also have to qualify for the "others" route so you need to be very judicious with your DIK and relationship decisions to thread the needle. If you do it, you get to give her cuddles during her latest love scene.

 

[znar25]

The Sage-only path is in a really great place....

 

[DarkMage73]

I don't like that Maya likes a dik MC.
She should be exclusively a chick LI.
Like Quinn is for a dik MC.

Well,