VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.10.1] [DrPinkCake]

[Darkwen]

No, KARAMBA is right. Quinn is not existing in our world and look on it: actually collapsing.

Even if some people don’t like it, the main storyline of the game, the main quest, is Maya and her problem.
Look, the whole story is built around this and gradually intertwines with the storylines of other characters, being the framework block of the plot. Whether we like it or not, we are drawn into Maya's story even if we jump off their route in Ep.4, and the other girls become involved too.
You can avoid a lot of things in the game, avoid other girls' storylines, but here everything is the same.
Maya's events are fixed anyway: we are the part of her drama with her escape from HOTs and Patrick's first visit, we go to a meeting with Burke, we participate in the meeting when everyone gets together and decides what to do and in the end we go to her home for stealing the papers.

And this whole arc interacts with Quinn's arc, as Grunt wrote. One of the blocks won't be there - I can't imagine how the game would work.
Just like a dating sim with characters that don't interact in any way, a set of individual stories.

There would still be drugs and there would still be the restaurant even if you remove Quinn. she is a part of a major storyline Quinn isn't the storyline you would still have the girls and Burke, Vinny and Buddy that's where all the action happens

 

[felicemastronzo]

There would still be drugs and there would still be the restaurant even if you remove Quinn. she is a part of a major storyline Quinn isn't the storyline you would still have the girls and Burke, Vinny and Buddy that's where all the action happens

If there were no Quinn there would have to be someone else to manage those activities within the BR and the hots. Another Quinn in short....

 

[UrFriend]

There would still be drugs and there would still be the restaurant even if you remove Quinn. she is a part of a major storyline Quinn isn't the storyline you would still have the girls and Burke, Vinny and Buddy that's where all the action happens

Quinn IS the restaurant. It was obviously her idea and she is the only one managing it and all the money go back to her. Without her dealing drugs on campus grounds there wouldn't be any Vinny issues.
Burke would probably still be banging college girls, but through blackmail or something like that.

 

[Darkwen]

If there were no Quinn there would have to be someone else to manage those activities within the BR and the hots. Another Quinn in short....

That wouldn't be hard at all, Lily. Boom just remove all need for Quinn or just kill her let Lily take over

 

[dalli_x]

Yes, yes and yes. Thoses are all central plotlines, amigo. Without the prostitution there's no free tuition plot. No free tuition plot ? Maya wouldn't have tried to join the HOTs and wouldn't have anything to do in the first two seasons. Josy wouldn't have any reason to join the HOTs to help Maya with her tasks either. Nothing would have happened with Burke and Mona. Burke wouldn't have no reasons to not help Maya in EP9.

Without the drugs plot, Riona, Lily & Vinny have no role in the story. The HOTs being present at the prep party and the trashing of the DIKs mansion don't happen. The plot of rebuilding the DIK mansion doesn't happen. The cliffhanger of the last episode doesn't happen.

Once again. You haven't really paid attention, I see.

Firstly, I responded sarcastically to the one below. You weren't paying attention or you didn't understand.

"At least Quinn is a plot device for something with meaningful significance, unlike Maya whose storyline honestly sucks and won't actually lead anywhere."

In my opinion it makes more sense to help someone who deserves the help and for me that's definitely not Quinn. It was her own fault, whereas Maya's only fault was that she fell in love with Josy.

What you wrote is partly right and partly wrong. For example, it was Josy's dream that she belonged to a sisterhood and had nothing to do with drugs, prostitution and blackmail. Her reason was to make her dream come true. On the contrary. Josy would have even given up her dream for Maya. The reason is Patrick and not drugs, prostitution or blackmail.

Yes, the drugs, prostitution, and blackmail are important, but so is Maya's entire situation. Both will create drama. But here it is up to the player to decide which path he wants to take. Personally, I keep my MC away from Quinn's activities as much as possible because I think drugs, prostitution and blackmail suck. DPC gives players the opportunity to stay away from it and I take advantage of that.

I do not deny the very existence of drugs, prostitution and blackmail in the game, nor their importance for the players who want it. But I'm not one of them.

 

[KАRАMBA]

Josy would make no sense to exist, what would be the point of her arrival in BR?

Her existence still doesn't make sense.

If there were no Quinn there would have to be someone else to manage those activities within the BR and the hots. Another Quinn in short....

The Quinn cycle in nature.
Quinn is inevitable !

 

[Lovetities]

NGL I think Quinn is more important than Maya or any main girls for the plot to work. I mean how you would not see it? She is the main antagonist we have to kill at the end after saving either Maya or josy from the burning house.

 

[UrFriend]

That wouldn't be hard at all, Lily. Boom just remove all need for Quinn or just kill her let Lily take over

Since when was Lily into prostitution? She is a stripper.

 

[Darkwen]

Quinn IS the restaurant. It was obviously her idea and she is the only one managing it and all the money go back to her. Without her dealing drugs on campus grounds there wouldn't be any Vinny issues.
Burke would probably still be banging college girls, but through blackmail or something like that.

Burke is part of the restaurant there isn't one without him, Vinny would be selling on campus and Rio wouldn't be kidnap unless she did something wrong

 

[Darkwen]

Since when was Lily into prostitution? She is a stripper.

Lily does ask for money for a fuck

 

[Darkwen]

NGL I think Quinn is more important than Maya or any main girls for the plot to work. I mean how you would not see it? She is the main antagonist we have to kill at the end after saving either Maya or josy from the burning house.

Quinn isnt the main antagonist

 

[felicemastronzo]

That wouldn't be hard at all, Lily. Boom just remove all need for Quinn or just kill her let Lily take over

If a character who does something else must necessarily do what Quinn does, it is a sign that Quinn is needed. Then if instead of Quinn he is called Darkwan it changes little. The character is necessary

 

[UrFriend]

Burke is part of the restaurant there isn't one without him, Vinny would be selling on campus and Rio wouldn't be kidnap unless she did something wrong

It might have been his idea or he is simply the highest paying customer. Everything else is a plot point that wouldn't be there without Quinn, which is the influence she has on the plot.

 

[Geralt From Rivia]

There would still be drugs and there would still be the restaurant even if you remove Quinn. she is a part of a major storyline Quinn isn't the storyline you would still have the girls and Burke, Vinny and Buddy that's where all the action happens

Then you have to come up with another character who deals drugs in B&R, runs Burke's prostitution scheme, and deceives Maya for all 6 episodes. Otherwise, none of this will work.
Although you are #1 Josy stan, it is enough for you that only MC and Josy are in the game, nothing else is needed.

 

[Darkwen]

If a character who does something else must necessarily do what Quinn does, it is a sign that Quinn is needed. Then if instead of Quinn he is called Darkwan it changes little. The character is necessary

If someone else can do what Quinn does then Quinn isn't needed. I'm not even saying Lily would have to run everything Quinn did. Quinn is unnecessary period.

 

[felicemastronzo]

If someone else can do what Quinn does then Quinn isn't needed. I'm not even saying Lily would have to run everything Quinn did. Quinn is unnecessary period.

But Lily would have to play Quinn and could not play Lily. Eventually you would have Quinn with a different name.

Jacob could also be badik's mc, but that doesn't prove that mc isn't necessary....

 

[Darkwen]

Then you have to come up with another character who deals drugs in B&R, runs Burke's prostitution scheme, and deceives Maya for all 6 episodes. Otherwise, none of this will work.
Although you are #1 Josy stan, it is enough for you that only MC and Josy are in the game, nothing else is needed.

The last line I agree 100 , let Lily handle the drugs, Mel and Sarah can handle the prostitution and a dog could deceive Maya, there everything cover and running and no need for Quinn

 

[dalli_x]

You are missing the point [2]
Remove Quinn arc and the whole game plot is collapsing.
Remove Maya - the same.

You don't have to worry about that because BaDIK is written the way we played it up until EP10. DPC could have made Quinn's arc and Maya's arc two separate games because both arcs have the potential for that.

That's why there are still side stories that occasionally collide with each other.

 

[Darkwen]

But Lily would have to play Quinn and could not play Lily. Eventually you would have Quinn with a different name.

Jacob could also be badik's mc, but that doesn't prove that mc isn't necessary....

not at all Lily would still be the same Lily she always been

 

[Joshy92]

I think I should be in charge of the restaurant I will make sure all these bastards treat my prostitutes like the queens they are.