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ChipLecsap

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Is that what MC actually says to her? I haven't played Nicole's path at all yet, so I don't know.
Yes, but to be fair, this scene is one of the more mature conversation MC ever have. HE just a 19 years old kid, as he admit, in a college. he not even allowed to drink legally yet,
Likely not even know what he wants from his life, and etc. Commiting a relatinship with a 30 years old woman with a kid, is not smart decesion at all .

if anything Nicole and even Bella should know better, HE is a fuckign Kid. Not a man, a Kid.

DPC did a good Job with this scene (y)
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Chalk boss

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Yes, but to be fair, this scene is one of the more mature conversation MC ever have. HE just a 19 years old kid, as he admit, in a college. he not even allowed to drink legally yet,
Likely not even know what he wants from his life, and etc. Commiting a relatinship with a 30 years old woman with a kid, is not smart decesion at all .

if anything Nicole and even Bella should know better, HE is a fuckign Kid. Not a man, a Kid.

DPC did a good Job with this scene (y)
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MC sometimes acts like a 30 or 40 year old man who has had several divorces and rejecting women is commonplace for him. A normal 19 year old wouldn't reject her or would just be afraid to have this conversation and put it off until later. The fact that he's directly talking about it sounds very implausible.
 
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Hahn1900

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Nope, you can get Bella on the DIK path provided you don't beat up Troy and don't do anything with Cathy in Bella's car as Bella will find Cathy's panties in the car, other than that I don't think there are any other blocks block on Bella that isn't your choice.

But I'll agree about Nicole, not Lily, Nicole is probably the best relationship you can have, except maybe Zoey, as all the others have way too much baggage, Nicole's only baggage is a kid and that's not really a problem.

But you can only have a threesome with Sage and Quinn if you're on the DIK route and that makes it all worthwhile. ;)

i never said that you cant get Bella on dik path... i said it doesnt feel right and that Bella is "mainly" chick, you have to bend that dik path so you can get together with her, which doesnt make much sense.. either you are a dik or not. If you play the dik path as a total "dik" you dont have a chance with bella (and a total dik of course beats up Troy). And again... its just weird, everything the MC as a dik stands for is against Bellas comfort. I mean... you can start the Jill path as a dik too (though she will reject you at the end) but it just feels wrong... a total dik like its shown in the game would never go for a girl like Jill. And Bella just doesnt fit for a dik path either... even when its possible.
 

Geralt From Rivia

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I just read what the "one guy" wrote. Honestly, damn he was on point. He misses to cite the positive aspects but the critique, to be fair, is quite objective:

I think he misses that fact that overall it was, and it is, a really well balanced product that is fun to play, hence its success. Yes, it does not excel in anything (apart from the extra features, for example the phone apps are an incredible effort), the animations are still mediocre (but everyone is doing mediocre animations in AVNs, so?), rendering quality is still inconsistent. But, it's an engaging VN!
I've seen maybe a couple of games made in DAZ that have good lewd animations, the engine is poorly suited to work with them, no blame for DPC here. Good lewds are in Honey Select engine.
 

ChipLecsap

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MC sometimes acts like a 30 or 40 year old man who has had several divorces and rejecting women is commonplace for him. A normal 19 year old wouldn't reject her or would just be afraid to have this conversation and put it off until later. The fact that he's directly talking about it sounds very implausible.
Yeah, and other times he cry like a baby , when guys in the same age as he are mean to him , or when his summer crush show up, and turn out that she is in a relationship with the same girl who he is friend with.
:LOL:
 

Hahn1900

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He just needs one person who he trusts. And this person has to tell him "yeah 60 FPS are neet, but do we really need this snowflake / snowballfight / candlelight in 60FPS?"

That would indeed speed up the dev/render progress AND the downloadtime of many ppl. living in countries with shitty wifi
So basically, you would say him "stop doing things you love" and hope that the game would be developed faster and will be completed earlier?

He would just stop it.

He loves to create this stuff, unnecessary animations in 60 fps is his icing on the cake, like the mini games, creating music (new fetish for him) and so on. its not needed in the game, but DPCs needs it to keep on going.

I dont like that either and would prefer he would concentrate on more important things and stop this unnecessary stuff. But that would mean he would lose interest in the game at some point too and everything will be abandoned at some point.

Btw.... making something different for a while was the whole reason behind the interlude. He said it himself that he was tired of being a dik after the dev cycle for episode 8. So he changed some things in his workshedule and mixed more stuff into it that he likes in the future dev cycles. Unfortunatly for us, its stuff that takes extra time. But on the other hand, if he wouldnt create that stuff, he wouldnt work on the game anymore for sure.

I for one prefer that he makes this unnecessary stuff that adds 2-3 months to every dev cycle instead of an abandoned being a dik. And still deliver more content in a shorter time period than most or every other DEv around here.

But i choose to make conseqeunces too, i was a monthly supporter a while, not anymore... now i only buy the episode on its release cause i dont like his going overboard with unnecessary stuff, and its getting more and more of that. But stopping with that wouldt help our case.
 

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Yeah, and other times he cry like a baby , when guys in the same age as he are mean to him , or when his summer crush show up, and turn out that she is in a relationship with the same girl who he is friend with.
:LOL:
That he ran away from Josy and Maya is more realistic behavior for an inexperienced 18 year old. He just got scared and didn't know what to do and ran to the more experienced and intelligent women (Sage and Bella) for comfort.
So if you think about it, MC is a mentally unstable guy with a split personality. He acts like an emotional lesbian, then he acts like an aggressive dominant male.
 
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ChipLecsap

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That he ran away from Josy and Maya is more realistic behavior for an inexperienced 18 year old. He just got scared and didn't know what to do and ran to the more experienced and intelligent women (Sage and Bella) for comfort.
So if you think about it, MC is a mentally unstable guy with a split personality. He acts like an emotional lesbian, then he acts like an aggressive dominant male.
Yeah. But let's say as he himself stated, that college supposed to be about transitioning from childhood to man hood. So over the course of the game He shown some grow

To be fair, Sage say fuck buddies, so she can't complain. :KEK:
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Yeah, and other times he cry like a baby , when guys in the same age as he are mean to him , or when his summer crush show up, and turn out that she is in a relationship with the same girl who he is friend with.
:LOL:
I would prefer it if he rejected more girls like he did Nicole and didn't give them the same pitch that he always does to the other women about "following his heart". It's good advice from his father, but why did the MC turn it into his slogan and says it to everyone? Him straight up telling that to Nicole and not sugarcoating it like he'd probably have done before to some of the other girls is pretty impressive.
To be fair, Sage say fuck buddies, so she can't complain. :KEK:
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No. The MC's "rebound guy" pussyfooting speech officially revoked the 'fuck buddies' status and DPC will use this against the players later on. It doesn't matter if you were willing to continue it or not, the MC wasn't.
 
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ChipLecsap

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I would prefer it if he rejected more girls like he did Nicole and didn't give them the same pitch that he always does to the other women about "following his heart". It's good advice from his father, but why did the MC turn it into his slogan and says it to everyone? Him straight up telling that to Nicole and not sugarcoating it like he'd probably have done before to some of the other girls is pretty impressive.
Yep, and also his whole , let's stay all of us as friend, and do Kumbaya circle :rolleyes: , can't we be all just be friend with the girl I dumped you for :ROFLMAO:
 

Jonmanchu

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Well, i said it before in a different post way in the past (a year ago or so, cause its a upcoming topic every week i will write something again).

I have coded some myself and was involved in creating software...

Let me tell you. "Outsourcing" is not everytime something that speed things up. It often doesnt. Especially in gamedevelopment.

DPC has a special flow how he works. Outsourcing something would disturb it very much. He has a plan for each episode, but what he does from week to week is very different and depends on what he has done and needs in the next step. If he would outsource things, he has to work on the same things again and again and wait for the others to get things done, he wouldnt survive this one month. He needs to mix everything up once in a while. Thats the main reason why he creates everything himself and does so many different things, even creating music. If he wouldnt do it like he does, we wouldnt even seen episode 6 at this point and the game would be abandoned.

You can look up other games around here, created by whole teams.... there is not a single DEV team that creates content faster than DPC, not one. Some teams are kinda big, 5 people and more and dont come even close to the numbers of DPC.

Creating something like this renpy style games in a team has a lot of hiccups coming with it. You need to coordinate everything, and at the end you have to piece everything together and than the error searching begins, which sometimes takes more time than the development itself. Which is the reason why so many games are incomplete and buggy. Being a Dik has very few bugs when a episode is released, besides the one that are mod related...

And by the way, what do you think he could "outsource"?

You said it yourself... things that arent art related or coding you think he can outsource... well... what could that be? I cant think of anything. Every bit of art has to go through the hands of DPC anyways... if anybody creates it for him, he would check every bit himself anyways and it would take the same amount of time if he would do it himself to begin with, be it music, animations or whatever. He has to code and write everything himself too, cause during the development sometimes he has new ideas and add them or changes things... to coordinate that with a other person on the fly is a nightmare and even more timeconsuming, it doesnt work.

Bottom line... the ONLY thing he could hand out to other people to speed things up would be the render process his PC slaves are doing. Which woudl cost more money than to do it himself and besides the render and animation queue is his "timekeeper". He creates everything aorund this queue... the renderqueue dictates the development pace now. He could speed this queue up, easily... if he would add more hardware or outsource the render process. But what does that mean for him? That he needs to work faster... aaaaaand... that leads to burnout.

I get that you want to have the episodes out faster, but its easier said than done. Its not that simple to say "well get some burden off your shoulders and everything will be faster" its just not true. Its like saying "work faster dude".

He needs to stay healthy too, and still love creating the game. Many DEVs burn out or get tired creating their games cause they are doing to much of the same things over and over again.

You can blame DPC for many things (to make it short, he is an asshole, nobody would disagree around here), but the way he develops the game seems to be the right way, cause he does it faster than all the other on F95, in top quality too and already a long time without throwing the rifle in the field.


The update interval will most likely increase furthermore. But so does the content amount. We already broke the record of episode 10 by far. He created more stuff for episode 11 in a shorter time period compared to episode 10. Its likely that we will get a episode with about 7500 (i think we will get close to the 8000) still renders and about 400 animations. Which is about 20% bigger than episode 10, without slowing the overall development process down, its just "more" of everything.

I think at some point we will reach the peak of "branching"... it feels like we are close to that already. Episode 10 opened up some new branching for sidegirls, but closed some "side-plots" too and more or less every girl has its branch now, and those who doesnt will not get any i think, not every girl will be a Love interest. With end of season 3 it is most likely that the branching will decrease cause more and more plots will close... if DPC stays true to his word, its only 6 episodes left from now on (maybe one interlude coming again, and epilogue?) So its natural that at some point the branching stops increasing. But it will not speed things up, cause he has to deal with most of the existing branches til the end anyways.

Speeding things up with simply "outsourcing" some things form the development is kinda whishful thinking. Especially if you dont work from the start like that. It takes a lot of effort and time to get a "team" running so things will speed up, it doesnt even make any sense anymore at this point.
Ok then let the master work alone then.So my wait begins.U asked me what can be outsourced nd my answer would be 'Music'.Even Christopher Nolan doesnt make his own music,He hires Hans Zimmer.Hope u get the point but again let Mr pinkcake cook at his own pace and style.Cheers mate
 

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I've seen maybe a couple of games made in DAZ that have good lewd animations, the engine is poorly suited to work with them, no blame for DPC here. Good lewds are in Honey Select engine.
People on Eternum are saying HS engine is difficult to work with and Here on BAD ur saying the opposite lol
 

Ray_D

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Not anymore. Now it's serious
Too late for me she already found out.:KEK:
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No. The MC's "rebound guy" pussyfooting speech officially revoked the 'fuck buddies' status and DPC will use this against the players later on. It doesn't matter if you were willing to continue it or not, the MC wasn't.
God sometimes I hate DPC's writing regarding the mc. :HideThePain:
 

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Just a random consideration. DPC doesn't aim to reduce the development time because he wants to make a fucking load of money with this VN, maybe he is "milking". But he is also working really hard and delivering content. In the local news recently I've seen an OnlyFans woman, no more a girl, not even pretty, not even with a fit or toned body, a bit fat, just an average woman you could meet everywhere. But she has got massive boobs, well, she is making 150.000 Euro/month. 150K! Producing really low quality content without any effort. Just crappy phone pics, vertical and short videos.
We can criticize DPC for some things, but we all know he really worked hard, and still working hard, to become rich. Still, he's very far from 150K/month, he's mostly in the 30k-50k per month depending on the period.
(Not considering that so most people in my country can work hard and professionally but don't even make 2000 Euro/month).
 

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Would been not funny if this whole " I'm gonna invite girls that you can fuck " would blow up in MC face?! :LOL:
Dude I feel like that Sage / Cammy thing was such a trap :ROFLMAO:
This is honestly the only thing that would make sense. The whole idea of her wanting to have threesomes with the MC and other girls doesn't fit with the current stage of their relationship and feels very off. If they were still just casual fuckbuddies then sure, but when you are falling in love, inviting other people to watch your partner fuck them is not the first thing on your mind. It's hard to explain why DPC made her behave like that but I agree it could blow up in MC's face if he goes along with it.

And it wouldn't be unlike DPC to set up a trap like that, so many people would fall for it. It's also not without reason that he added two new variables for Sage's branch in Ep.10 which both revolve around this: MC's behaviour at the pool scene and his sexual past (threesome with Quinn and/or sex with Camila). Those variables will have an effect on her branch.
 
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