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estoycansado

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For me public is any place that another person can easily acess or see from a distance easily.

So all of Maya scenes count being that they take place in a park, a pool and in the party.

Quinn roof scene was efinitely public, I guess your definition is different than mine.



Jill really looks and "feels" different on that preview, she is either teasing the MC on her path or provoking him on Bella's.

Even her swimwear appears to be more daring than the ones we seen so far. What is she planning...

Combine that with the Bella/Bianca preview and we can expect a lot of Jill next update.

Also, the risky sex doesn't necessarily need to be outdoor, just imagine a scene at the winter retreat sauna or poll with a nearby Bella/Bianca. That would be quite something for Jill.

About the threesome, I honestly doubt it will happen, but let's wait (a lot of years) and see.



Don't let Spock hear you say that lol


Nothing official, but 0% chance its coming out this year, the usual trends point to a late february/early march release, considering hpw much work is left.


That's true, but I still believe Maya will act a bit Dominant on that scene.


Any examples on Josy being dominant over Maya? I really can't think of one.


Unfortunate that mods take a while to update when a new episode is out lol


Any despiction of any of the game girls with a Non-MC male is against the rules of the subreddit.

It's completely retarded.
Give me some light, brother. The DPC hinted that there will be how many threesomes in episode 11? I vaguely remember a conversation about this a while ago
 
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I haven't been following this game as much lately. What's the info about release? Coming up on a year now since episode 10.

I appreciate the scope of the game, like we get a multitude of lewd scenes and stuff. Lots of content each update. That being said, for me personally There is way too much extra shit, mini games, Free roam events, I'm not as much a fan of how the size of how that content grew. Last time There were so many Mini games, new mini games. and I remember there being a whole update halloween free roam event basically.

How much is too much? considering how long we have to wait now. Thoughts anyone?
 

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I remember that dev had "a patreon goal" (reached long time ago) after which he will quit his regular job and work full time on game to provide faster updates. But it seems updates are delivered slower than before. Even if we count content size, which seems to be slightly larger than in first updates.
 

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Any file to modify so i can change back MMB to hide interface instead of showing phone like it was in the first episodes?
 

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I remember that dev had "a patreon goal" (reached long time ago) after which he will quit his regular job and work full time on game to provide faster updates. But it seems updates are delivered slower than before. Even if we count content size, which seems to be slightly larger than in first updates.
He spends most of his time on low quality animations. His animations are really very primitive and unnatural, and they take 80% of his development and rendering time.
 

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A short but good update for today.

The animation queue is down to 6 animations. After they're completed, I need to post-process them and test the lewd scenes to ensure that they work. After that, beta testing can start, and it will start sometime next week.

The final preview for episode 10 drops on Wednesday, and next Friday will be the final status update before the release date announcement.

This development cycle is about to reach its end.

Have a nice weekend.

Dr PinkCake
November 10 2023 : finishing up the update

November 10 2024 : finishing up a useless cutscene

:HideThePain:
 
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As usual DPC doesn't share this kind of information, nothing concrete at least.

However, I do have reason to believe it will be at least 2 and maybe 3.

The first one is the confirmed Josy/Maya one that will probably break me (in the good way)

Now, anything beyond this point is pure speculation, but I believe there might be two more.

In the reports from 12/01 and 19/01 DPC mentioned he was working on a very big and tricky lewd scene that would feature over 50 animations by itself. He also mentioned it tricky for some spoiler reason, so due to that I believe it's not the J/M threesome since he wouldn't want to reveal it.

DPC also mentioned more recently(not sure when or where unfortunally) that he was also working on a threesome with an unexpected combination of girls, now sure that could be the same scene as from my previous paragraph, but it could also be yet another one.

So yeah, we can't know for sure but at least 2 and maybe even 3.

Maybe of one those is even the game first foursome.
I have a suspicion that the threesome with Josy and Maya in latex might be a short scene. It does look atypical and, judging by the context, it takes place in the interval between the main acts of the episode.

I can imagine MC stopping by to visit them before the Christmas party, and that's the reason for the casual sex. I really don't remember DPC spoiling an important and big threesome scene like that back in the middle of development, whereas he could have made that preview final. I'm probably wrong, but I have a suspicion that this scene will be disappointingly short. I might suggest that Maya won't be involved at all and just hold Josy, lol.

Also, I have a strong feeling that DPC wants to rehabilitate for the last episode, which had little adult content. Basically there were only three good and great scenes in ep10, which were Bella, Nora, and Nicole. I bet that for example the scene with Sage or the scene with Quinn should have been bigger, but he probably counted the rendering time of the animations and decided to remove a few animations to save time. Or he dropped the full Lily scene and replaced it with a blowjob.

So I hope he do not pulls this stunt in the same episode trying to make a release this year. He could just freak out and remove 30% or 40% of the content of the scenes, he'll stack up and release these scenes. I'm willing to wait a few months but get exactly the big scenes like the scene with Bella from last episode.
 
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Dude, you just told me you know very little about this game.

The upcoming EP will have nearly as much content as the first 4 episodes of this game combined.

Doubt me? Check this post from mpa71.

The upcoming update will probably have around 7K statics & over 370 animations.

So yes, it's taking forever, but the updates are colossal, specially compared tot he first episodes.

The episode may not feel as large, but that's due to the branching, but if you actually try to see all the scene it will take quite a while, even if you disable minigames and skip the canon scenes.
That post is not of use to fully compare if development is going slower or not, because we don't know exact numbers of hours spent on development during "dev had regular job" phase.
We can assume "working full time on game" phase as 8 hours per day, 5 days a week, we can deduct holidays and other non working days etc.
But let's count just days, for example
Episode 2, 3 & 4 had 6454 renders and 310 animations - done in 340 days at spare time speed.
Episode 11 - 7000 renders and 380 animations - 338 days and counting at full time speed.
 
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He spends most of his time on low quality animations. His animations are really very primitive and unnatural, and they take 80% of his development and rendering time.
His animations are in fact totally average for VNs, he's at the same level of many other developers that use DAZ to animate. Some others VN developers are able to make better animations with DAZ, it's true, but it's not that DPC's are among the worst. He's average and that's not a problem for this VN.
His animations are mediocre and embarrassing only if you compare them with what skilled people do with Blender/Maya, but those are people focused mostly or only on animations. DPC has so many aspects to deal with, so he cannot excel in anything, he has to to mass-produce as he works alone. Also, I don't think animations take him 80% of the time. A lot of time, indeed, but not 80%. Regarding rendering time, that's true but he has many PCs so they don't block his work. They'll probably be the bottleneck again for the release, because he will have to pose others when he makes the last lewd scenes.

You have also to consider that many (probably most) of his patrons pretend animations, so he has to make them, even if they feel crap if you are used to look at good ones. Then he gradually started feeling too excited doing animations and exceeded, now making long cutscenes that 99% of the players will see once, then skip like a plague in the following replays. People cannot protest on Discord because they'll get banned, so he believes everyone thinks he's the new Kubrick/Sergio Leone/Scorsese.
But consider this: he still produces most content, per year, than the majority of the other developers (also because he has the income to afford it).

So, just deal with it, this is what's going to be and nothing is going to change it, he will never change his workflow. Let's be patient and play other VNs.
 
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I don't think there's anyone right now who seriously thinks this episode will come out this year. November 15th the final preview came out, we're two months behind at best. DPС is probably hoping deep down that it will make it this year, but that's impossible.

Unless he's going to release the game without animations like Iсstor did back in the day.

He can say it will take 3 months to render animations and release a version without animations, then 3 months later a version with animations. He'll keep his fans loyal and probably be able to reduce the pressure. I'm willing to bet he's seriously considering it. Either he'll do a poll and the majority will vote that they're willing to wait.

In fact, right now the main hope of many( including myself) is that it will be February. March is probably more realistic, but damn March looks too depressing. The worst part is that he seems to have lost control of the development. I'm willing to bet ep12 might not come out until late 2026. We'll be at a point where it will take almost two years to develop one ep.
Until 1 month ago, I was thinking that it would be released in December. Now I hope that maybe a miracle will happen and EP11 will be released in December as a New Year's gift. :confused:
 
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its hard to belive that ep 11 will have a scene with Zoey, another secene with Jade.. some sex with Quinn.... Sally!:love:
Madame Rose..finally some sex with Hether.. threesome with Maya and jose... More of Madame...

Threesome with Bella and Bianca.. (not likely) THREESOME WITH JILL AND BELLA (probably not).... a lewd scene with Karen... THREESOME WITH SALLY AND KAREN (plz dr.PC) .. probley more Madame... NORA <3 (hopefully) and ofcurse the other hots like Sarah, Camilla etc... ep 11 will ether be legendary or OVERLY overhyped... etherway the wait would be worte it if we got a Sally scene.. but probably will get bamboozled with another Madame Rose scene... :confused:
 

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While the static numbers do match up roughly the animations do not since their duration is quite different, the 3 early episodes you mentioned had a total time of around 16:30 minutes, meanwhile EP 9 and 10 had 25+ mins each as you can see in the post I linked.

So the amount of content is still quite bigger on the newer episodes.

And before you say that there that most of the animations are useless crap, they actually aren't.

EP 10 non lewd animations had a total duration of around 130s at most. And yes that includes the barbecue intro, the zoey run and the car animation.

So most of the animations are for lewd stuff.

Now sure, if he haven't started render the animations in 60fps the update would come out sooner, no discussion there it was a stupid decision then and it's even worse now that all animations are going to have an increased framerate and take even longer to render.
I don't know how many single renders each animation have, but even with that into consideration, numbers don't add up. We can add even coding, which is more complicated now with so many branches, and takes more time. We can even add episode 5 into first group, to cover for all that, it still will be short.
Especially considering that until March (which seems to be the most optimistic release date) number of days for episode 11 will count nearly 450. And might even go further. Add to that - number of hours per day have to be largely different, so it will make things even "worse".
I mean, at the end of the day it's not important, it will not deliver us game faster, just debating, it seems to me that he got lazy.
 
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