Jushak

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Maya - Don't trust her and (as mentioned before) her less then a week swing from 100% lesbian to wanting to be your/my girl makes me think she's a little unbalanced. I like a touch of crazy from time to time but seeing as she's Dereks sister and I'm potentially trapped in proximity to her for 4 years.........I wanna keep that at arms length.
Eh, I have a friend who experienced something similar to Maya's story - in a lesbian relationship for a few years, comes to university and finds herself pursued by multiple guys, ends up marrying one of them after cheating on her then girlfriend with him.

Personal anecdotes aside, Maya in my eyes is very believable character. Her relationship isn't going well, with her exchanging angry / nasty messages with her girlfriend due to the strain of long range relationship. Maya hasn't met a guy who she is interested in and has interpreted that as her being lesbian. Then the MC comes and shakes up that belief. Her mind is against it, but it feels right to her, adding to the confusion.

You don't need crazy for that. Just confused young adults seaching for themselves in a completely new environment and mostly new people.
 

felicemastronzo

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Question for everyone

How did you guys play the game? Did you sleep with everyone and explore every path or did you play it like you would of if it was real life?
it's a porn game, at the moment I have found no reason to give up on any girl (or teacher...).

for honesty, in the main run, I kept away from the restaurant

in the choices of dialogue I try to be as much as possible myself (I have never found myself in some situations :(, so I have no certainties)
 
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Holy Bacchus

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Question for everyone

How did you guys play the game? Did you sleep with everyone and explore every path or did you play it like you would of if it was real life?
I've approached this game as I do with all games, by making the decisions that I would if this character were me, and it has resulted in quite a lot of sexy fun times. ;) (Which is why these games are so often better than real life. :ROFLMAO:)
 

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Eh, I have a friend who experienced something similar to Maya's story - in a lesbian relationship for a few years, comes to university and finds herself pursued by multiple guys, ends up marrying one of them after cheating on her then girlfriend with him.

Personal anecdotes aside, Maya in my eyes is very believable character. Her relationship isn't going well, with her exchanging angry / nasty messages with her girlfriend due to the strain of long range relationship. Maya hasn't met a guy who she is interested in and has interpreted that as her being lesbian. Then the MC comes and shakes up that belief. Her mind is against it, but it feels right to her, adding to the confusion.

You don't need crazy for that. Just confused young adults seaching for themselves in a completely new environment and mostly new people.
Maya's character is perfectly consistent with herself (very limited to its narrative function of damsel in distress)

many homosexual boys adn girls have gone through her family difficulties (at least in Italy which is a strongly "formally" Catholic country)(p.s. we don't know what Maya went through ... we can imagine it)

I don't like absolute alibis, everyone defends himself as he can, and everyone tries to achieve huis happiness, Maya's is a road, not the only one and not even the best
 

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For people who dislike maya but like josey and vice versa when you played the game did they give you an option to continue seeing one or the other or do they come as a pair? I dropped them both pretty early in my playthrough so i wasn't sure how that storyline continued.
 

felicemastronzo

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For people who dislike maya but like josey and vice versa when you played the game did they give you an option to continue seeing one or the other or do they come as a pair? I dropped them both pretty early in my playthrough so i wasn't sure how that storyline continued.
find out for yourself which is the beauty of the game ...

if you are impatient, for now they go as a couple, and in any case they accompany you whatever you do, if there is actually the possibility of recovering the relationship later with one of them or both is not known (in my opinion yes)
 

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find out for yourself which is the beauty of the game ...

if you are impatient, for now they go as a couple, and in any case they accompany you whatever you do, if there is actually the possibility of recovering the relationship later with one of them or both is not known (in my opinion yes)
I don't like either one of them which is why i asked instead of actually playing that route.
 

felicemastronzo

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I don't like either one of them which is why i asked instead of actually playing that route.
if you don't care either, then it doesn't make sense to want to be with them more than friends, let them go and we'll see what happens

however, even as friends you will continue to deal with it, and in theory you could even regain one of the two (Josy perhaps more likely)
 

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Eh, I have a friend who experienced something similar to Maya's story - in a lesbian relationship for a few years, comes to university and finds herself pursued by multiple guys, ends up marrying one of them after cheating on her then girlfriend with him.

Personal anecdotes aside, Maya in my eyes is very believable character. Her relationship isn't going well, with her exchanging angry / nasty messages with her girlfriend due to the strain of long range relationship. Maya hasn't met a guy who she is interested in and has interpreted that as her being lesbian. Then the MC comes and shakes up that belief. Her mind is against it, but it feels right to her, adding to the confusion.

You don't need crazy for that. Just confused young adults seaching for themselves in a completely new environment and mostly new people.
I too find Maya to be a very believable character and a sympathetic one at that. I've always felt like she's a victim of circumstance and so too her feelings for Josy were based on her circumstances.

It would seem that Maya has come from a very religious household with a somewhat controlling and very devout Dad, and that she never really had much chance to express herself. So there was probably some emotional and psychological repression going on with her, and people like that will often latch on to anyone who gives them some kind of positive affirmation which they don't get at home.

She mentions that she had gone on dates with a couple of guys but that she'd only ever been with a girl, that girl being Josy, so perhaps things simply didn't click with these guys on an emotional level but they did with Josy because perhaps she gave her this positive affirmation she was craving and thus Maya developed romantic feelings for her. Maya would then have taken this to mean that she is gay, but a connection like this with Josy would have been one born out of circumstance and not necessarily indicative of Maya's sexual orientation as there simply hadn't been any guys who elicited those same sorts of feelings.

Enter the MC. He is there for her when she most needs it, having seemingly lost her two most significant relationships with her parents and Josy, and he gives her affection, vaildation, and comfort somewhat unconditionally, as well not judging her too harshly. So this essentially unlocks hetero feelings that Maya didn't think she had and it confuses her because she thought she was gay when it may just have been a case of having a lack of options that formed her feelings for Josy.

So, in my view, Maya was never actually gay, she only assumed she was because she formed an emotional connection with Josy that developed into romance. But had the MC, or a guy like him, been there for Maya at the time Josy was, then she would be in a relationship with them and consider herself straight.
 

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I too find Maya to be a very believable character and a sympathetic one at that. I've always felt like she's a victim of circumstance and so too her feelings for Josy were based on her circumstances.

It would seem that Maya has come from a very religious household with a somewhat controlling and very devout Dad, and that she never really had much chance to express herself. So there was probably some emotional and psychological repression going on with her, and people like that will often latch on to anyone who gives them some kind of positive affirmation which they don't get at home.

She mentions that she had gone on dates with a couple of guys but that she'd only ever been with a girl, that girl being Josy, so perhaps things simply didn't click with these guys on an emotional level but they did with Josy because perhaps she gave her this positive affirmation she was craving and thus Maya developed romantic feelings for her. Maya would then have taken this to mean that she is gay, but a connection like this with Josy would have been one born out of circumstance and not necessarily indicative of Maya's sexual orientation as there simply hadn't been any guys who elicited those same sorts of feelings.

Enter the MC. He is there for her when she most needs it, having seemingly lost her two most significant relationships with her parents and Josy, and he gives her affection, vaildation, and comfort somewhat unconditionally, as well not judging her too harshly. So this essentially unlocks hetero feelings that Maya didn't think she had and it confuses her because she thought she was gay when it may just have been a case of having a lack of options that formed her feelings for Josy.

So, in my view, Maya was never actually gay, she only assumed she was because she formed an emotional connection with Josy that developed into romance. But had the MC, or a guy like him, been there for Maya at the time Josy was, then she would be in a relationship with them and consider herself straight.
come on no ... it seems a bit extreme

so Maya didn't even choose her sexuality? also in that did she accept others decision?

because of that choice, her relationship with her father was ruined (without simultaneously saving his relationship with Josy). I hope she was at least convinced of it
 

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I'm gonna love to see the chaos on these forums when bella's husband returns. :)
We have an emperor (The fucking Karl Franz) with an axe waiting.
People came for the top tier art to fap but get addicted to the story and cast instead. There's hundreds of porn games on here but few have a script so well written and funny that you find characters being discussed 100x more than any sex scene in the game - its THAT good.

It also forces decisions and consequence so there is loads of replay value too in doing things different ways as whether your a saint, a bad boy or something in between the game doesn't let you have all your cake and eat it (it is NOT a harem game).
Neither it is an incest nor a NTR game, doesn't stop people from wanting to rob the bakery.
Judging by the number of wacko theories this thread permeates every 5 pages, I'd say brain isn't required either. :)
It is required, just that these theorists forgot to bring it.
the bad reputation of DPC
Er.. what bad reputation? Sorry I came in without knowing any of his reputation.
Well, well, well, looks like Quinn's going to be meeting with her dealers, or at least the grunts who work for the big boss. :oops:

Shit's about to get real. :eek:
Cue Quinn walking under the rain pic. By the way is that a new side chick waiting for our MC to rescue?
It wasn't. It was necessary to keep the incest box of Pandora out of the way... :D
But people keep looking for it and try to open it anyway...
Weird. If it weren't for the fact the tattoo is in the wrong place, I'd swear that was Dawe on the chair. Does he have a twin brother, too?
I thought it was a glimpse into the future of Dawe at first.
 
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