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kire37

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i think right now baDIK in its own level at the top . following by midnight paradise , broken dreamers , timestamp and treasure of nadia . but if all the game are finished , i think midnight paradise and timestamp will up there with badik .
 
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Arigon

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Something has been really bugging me about the reason for James’ absence, and a lot of things don’t add up.



Whilst in the Library, just before the MC visits her and they kiss, Bella thinks the following:



“Married women don’t fool around with young students.”



“...”



“They aren’t intimate with friend’s either…”



“But that…That was different!”



“It doesn’t matter… I’ve stopped it.”



“Please, James… forgive me.”



“Please, just come home again”



“It’s been long enough…”




This makes me think that Bella cheated on her husband with one of her friend’s and James left her because of that.



Then in the pool, just before the MC makes a move on her, Bella thinks the following.



“It’s adultery… isn’t it.”



“Can I just decide to move on?”



“What if James comes home?”



“Would he blame me if I did this?”



“After all this time?”



“I have forgiven him…”



This now feels like James left because of a mistake he made, maybe he cheated on Bella?



Bella in bed with Jill, after MC comes round to speak to Cathy.



J: “Is something wrong?”



B: “No. Nothing’s wrong.”



J: “If you say so…”



J: “It’s not going to happen again.”



B: “I thought we had an understanding.”



J: “We do. That’s what I wanted to assure you of.”



B: “I don’t need to be reassured. I need you to stop talking about it.”



Jill mentions she was going to sleep on the couch and then storms off, Bella then pushes her wedding photo onto the floor.



We know that Bella doesn’t have many friends, could Jill be the one she cheated on her Husband with? She does say before that married woman aren’t intimate with friend’s either… I would be very disappointed if this was to be the case, as this is a bit to close to Josy and Maya’s path, but, currently what else could that conversation mean other than what I just said?



Then just after the tit-fuck scene in the MC’s new bedroom, Bella thinks the following:



“No, not a relationship. Adultery.”



“You’re an adulteress.”



“You’ve become something you hate.”



She is now only just becoming an adulteress? But before it seemed like the reason James left was because she was intimate with a friend, thus meaning she is already an adulteress. Plus, her conversation with Jill in the bedroom, what else could that mean other than them being intimate together in the past?

At a push maybe, as the line she says seems like a new thought, we can think that the married woman she is talking about is not her, and that she was a friend of Bella and James and she had an intimate moment with Bella’s husband.



And then the following line of I stopped it, could mean how she stopped the MC from going further with her when he first kissed her.



Maybe that person was Jade? As we know Bella doesn’t like Jade, because she does say she is becoming something she hates…



And the Jill conversation in bed could be about something completely different that we will find out about later?



I would love to hear other people’s opinion on this.
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shazba

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Being character driven and offering an endless stream of loose ends is what makes you think about it. I hate sentimental dramas in entertainment products and I'm not particulary a fan of loose ends when I feel the author is trying to trap me just for shock value, so as I've said several times, I just played BaDIK once from Ch1 to Ch5 and that was all that I needed to see. Then I actually read the game for translating purposes and basically got engaged to the thread, but not to the game itself. Discussions here also helps to keep your hype up.
I wasn't all wrapped up in the questions raised by this game until I started reading this forum, which was after a few play throughs from episodes 1-5. I simply found it thoroughly enjoyable. If you didn't enjoy it, is your intent here to convince others they don't enjoy it too? Are you frustrated that BaDIK and CoBD are rated the same when you think BaDIK is inferior? If that's the case, what do you think about "What a Legend" being ranked similarly (I played that game through and found I was just jumping through hoops to get to the next step with cliched and tired comedy - I won't be bothering with that game again).
 
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Kellermann

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Don't worry Derek I'll talk to Ashley for you by the way I feel like we're going to fuck Elena first than JIll
WTF is going on with Ashley's neck???

Yes, Jill is going to be dead last on the list...if at all. If you're lucky, you might get a dry, awkward jerkdown (with a fully clothed Jill) at the end of season 2.

But Elena....eww, no, just no.
 

shazba

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WTF is going on with Ashley's neck???

Yes, Jill is going to be dead last on the list...if at all. If you're lucky, you might get a dry, awkward jerkdown (with a fully clothed Jill) at the end of season 2.

But Elena....eww, no, just no.
You'll hurt John Boy's feelings!
 

Arigon

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The Jill and Bella being intimate seems almost guaranteed... But would DPC give another two LI lesbian backgrounds. He has already done that with Maya and Josy.
they are not lesbians. they played as a result of high emotional state and wine and possibly bi-curiosity. However I pray to the porn god that Bella + Jill is an option
 
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shazba

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they are not lesbians. they played as a result of high emotional state and wine and possibly bi-curiosity. However I pray to the porn god that Bella + Jill is an option
They definitely did something together in the past, that whole debate when they're in bed, "it won't happen again", "it wouldn't have been an issue if I was on the couch" (all paraphrased) definitely some carpet cleansing been going on.
 
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felicemastronzo

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they are not lesbians. they played as a result of high emotional state and wine and possibly bi-curiosity. However I pray to the porn god that Bella + Jill is an option

if it were true Bella would already have been an adulteress, well before MC and therefore the flow of thoughts of the sixth chapter would not make sense

then I know that a little bit of bisexuality always comes in handy, but does Jill letting herself go so much do you think she is in the character?
 

Arigon

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if it were true Bella would already have been an adulteress, well before MC and therefore the flow of thoughts of the sixth chapter would not make sense

then I know that a little bit of bisexuality always comes in handy, but does Jill letting herself go so much do you think she is in the character?
I am willing to bet my left nut that it was viewed as playing and not adultery by the two of them, as they are emotionally driven to males, and playing between girls for such folks is not considered cucking/NTR/adultery. If an emotional love as in relationship were involved, then it would be a line they crossed. Bella, processed it differently than Jill, as she knows Jill likes the MC, and Jill is clueless of Bella and MC involvement, hence the stress and tossing out of bed.
 

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I wasn't all wrapped up in the questions raised by this game until I started reading this forum, which was after a few play throughs from episodes 1-5. I simply found it thoroughly enjoyable. If you didn't enjoy it, is your intent here to convince others they don't enjoy it too? Are you frustrated that BaDIK and CoBD are rated the same when you think BaDIK is inferior? If that's the case, what do you think about "What a Legend" being ranked similarly (I played that game through and found I was just jumping through hoops to get to the next step with cliched and tired comedy - I won't be bothering with that game again).
No, I'm just saying why I don't enjoy it and why I think people actually enjoy it - because, unlike me, they do like dramas and soap operas, obviously. Which is not bad, just not my thing. About What a Legend, in my opinion that game is a masterpiece on its own genre and while I'm a bit surprised of its high rating, I don't think is too far from what it deserves. But obviously the 3 games we're talking about have quite different aimings and they're are equally good at delivering what their fans look for in them
 

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if it were true Bella would already have been an adulteress, well before MC and therefore the flow of thoughts of the sixth chapter would not make sense

then I know that a little bit of bisexuality always comes in handy, but does Jill letting herself go so much do you think she is in the character?
The most logical thing I can think of is that James cheated on Bella, Bella found out and he left. After that Jill tried to comfort Bella. Since they both are horny as fuck it started getting hot but Bella freaked out before they did anything
 

felicemastronzo

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I am willing to bet my left nut that it was viewed as playing and not adultery by the two of them, as they are emotionally driven to males, and playing between girls for such folks is not considered cucking/NTR/adultery. If an emotional love as in relationship were involved, then it would be a line they crossed. Bella, processed it differently than Jill, as she knows Jill likes the MC, and Jill is clueless of Bella and MC involvement, hence the stress and tossing out of bed.

if the reason was an emotional comfort I find it difficult for Bella and Jill to "play", even the excuse of having drunk usually doesn't work.

and a Jill who lets herself go like this, with a woman, is always hard to believe when with a man we know how blocked and thoughtful she is
 

ename144

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But in the end he's right. There are tons of characters out there who lie, who never come clean across the MC, yet people still love them because "she's a badass but I'll show her what a real man is". Here we have that kind of character and, in the very last moment, when we were thinking she'll be ours, she drops the Josy bomb and prefers to stay with her instead of coming to us. And of course the way our MC reacts to the news, storming out of a potential threesome (that's how your regular lewd game would have handled that situation) add to that bitter feeling. Then people take all those feelings and try to give a rational reason for their anger, and Maya is the common escape as she's the one who had the most screen time and therefore the most chances to make mistakes
I do think this is the heart of the issue. Maya's lies of omission and the fact that both girls give the MC serious competition are problems, but all of that would probably have been manageable if the story didn't hype the crisis to the Nth degree by having the MC storm off then spend the rest of the episode whining about it. Rather than try to help the player see it from the girls' perspective, we are encouraged to embrace the outrage for the sake of the drama.

Even worse, despite all this buildup the issue is just dropped by the end of the episode. The focus of the library scene isn't on what the girls did to the MC, or even what he did to them. It's all on what they did to each other; patching up with the MC is quite literally an after thought. Even that can be made worse by the fact the game will sometimes choose NOT to do so - and never explain why! Suck it, player!

All that built-up narrative tension had to go somewhere, and with no proper channel it just exploded. It's no wonder Maya got burned in the resulting firestorm. Josy too, but Maya was the far more prominent character in the story, so it's natural she takes the brunt of it. Which is a pity because I find both characters likable and believably flawed.
 

zingobingo

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Prevailing thought for me has been (although doubting it lately):
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Yeah I agree with your view point, it's kind of what I thought as well.

It's just disappointing that DPC seems to be taking these two down a similar path as Maya and Josy.

MC getting close to two girls who have history with each other.

It's kinda like, we've waited all this time to find out what is going on with these characters histories and then it's like oh yeah it's pretty much the same thing that happened with Josy and Maya.
 
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