VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.10.1] [DrPinkCake]

[inevitableandinfinity8]

The only thing I don't like about Lily is DPC deciding that she has fake tits.

NO they are not fake ! I sucked both of them.

 

[Razrback16]

The only thing I don't like about Lily is DPC deciding that she has fake tits.

I wonder if there will be any ending options at all with any of the side girls like Lily if you opt out of the main LIs, etc.

 

[OFT]

 

[palmtrees89]

Sure that's fine. Did I lambast the dev and cry and moan? No I stated that I will only play the chick path due to the aforementioned problems. I did just as you stated. I took the chick the path and left the dik path. What exactly is your problem?

I can't tell if you're crying and moaning behind that computer screen of yours, and I honestly don't care either. I was just trying to explain as to why this game has limited choices and how to possibly deal with it in my previous post. Choices you dislike because of your own beliefs, seemingly making you upset since it forces you to play the game in a way intended by the developer. So no, I really don't have a problem.

Looks like another one of those "Just nod and don't make eye contact" moments, huh?

 

[shazba]

Why do you care? Look i'm not here for some crusade against homosexuals. I don't care that they are in the game. Sure i'd prefer someone more original but an "evil" "bigoted" religious father is perfect for the ilk on this site. Not to my taste so I stated that it wasn't. I would also have liked more options on how to deal with Maya and Josy but as stated beforehand I already dealt with it by ignoring the dik route. I also said something that may be construed as rude to the dev which I regret. Some lad had to make some big character study, trying to get personal and start discussing Christian dogma from a brief comment about some of my peeves with the game. So I responded. I'd rather this got buried and forgotten this really got off track

Patrick isn't really portrayed as evil.

He is religious, controlling and very much against his daughter being gay.

Because of his religious conviction, his daughter being gay isn't just something he finds distasteful, it's something he possibly believes could condemn her to Hell, so he is taking drastic measures to curtail it.

In context, none of that is evil. Misguided, yes, but not evil.

Of course, in this day and age, society looks down on people with such outdated views. Kinda like how this thread is responding to your views on the subject.

 

[Sexypeasan]

Jesus ,is that a butt or a continent?

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[ChipLecsap]

Whats up Brothers everything fine ?! ... UGH...

 

[Wolfbeckett]

I don't mind the gay folks. One of the DIKs who's name I can't remember makes a lot of comments that make it seem like he's secretly into dudes and he's still cool. But I really hope this game doesn't force us down the path of reconciliation with Chad and Troy just because they're gay. I don't care about who they like to fuck but they have both been nothing but non stop assholes to the MC and the friendliest I'm ever going to be able to feel towards them is a neutral "you go your way, I go mine, we stop harassing each other" truce, regardless of their reasons for their behavior. Even if those reasons are excellent they don't excuse bullying and literally back attacking a guy who is way smaller than you are.

 

[Hurensohn Heigl]

I think rekindling this discussion in this forum would actually be quite good, to add to this forum's variety of post types.

Until the people are complaining about terrible headaches again xDDD

minimize the overall actual XP cost over all turns and leave the most XP available after the final turn of mansion repair.

Have you seen my initial analysis? This was more or less what I tried to achieve even though the data is not that advanced as it should and could have been. Yeah, I did not invest into the dumpster so I might re-do this scenario and see how it compares to yours.

I ultimately opted for maximizing remaining XP left on the final turn.

Which is a case that I haven't emphazised enough, but surely a legit approach. Even now that we have the work data, the flexibility this approach provides us with, is hard to measure. We might need to look closer to the overall XP generation relation between rounds to see where the turning point from "force-spend all XP" towards "minimize XP spent for flexibility" actually is. Let me think about that one, there might be great insights in there, thanks a lot for pointing this out!

I actually lean towards a lower mansion score, at least purely with respect to the mansion repairs and not the jobs portion of the game

Yeah I like the efficiency approach as well, but my initial analysis was too limited to implement this properly. BUT you just raised another idea: Since we now have the work data (thanks to Meushi and to ename144 for pointing at him ), we can simply expand the analysis a little bit. Maybe your approach does not really lower the total mansion score, maybe the work part actually is stronger (i.e. yields more points) providing solid evidence for the superiority of your approach. Maximizing the total mansion score might not be the most reliable measure and of course we also have to account for the numbers of job re-rolling (however to do that... actually, with a function?) ...
This might be an interesting and insightful thing to do now!

Total Generation: 110 + 120 + 130 + 180 + 290 = 830

Indeed you are right. I tried to reproduce the error and couldn't. Both, in my spreadsheet and the one I have uploaded, the corresponding calculations are correct (it is because the odd numbers are not added). So for some reason I have updated the spreadsheet later on without updating the screenshot. LOL. Don't know how this could happen, I must apologize.
840 = Rounddown(22.700+24.600+26.390+36.550+58.370)/1000*5
Thats the reason why I have included the odd numbers in the "Bonus Points" column and in the spreadsheet the calculation is working. But obviously not in the screens............ Cannot explain why.

since the additional amount of XP generated you can optimize to get is not significantly much greater
...
13.2 + 0.5*13.2 = 13.2 + 6.6 = 19.8 = ~20

Yes. This is what I meant based on my "educated" guess.

And do you consider 840XP your balanced "middle" output of your algorithm over the range of potential decently optimized cases, with the XP generation ranging up or down by 20XP?

More the balanced middle, yes. 20XP as a cap and not a floor. Less is always possible and way more than 20XP additionally is not feasible with my assumptions. But this doesn't mean that they are the best as you have nicely outlined in your post

Since there are a number of different areas one could optimize the mansion game in (number of turns to complete mansion, total mansion score, total XP generated, total XP Cost, final XP left after mansion repairs for work, etc.)

Thanks for the nice discussion even though my pride suffered a little bit from realizing I made a rush mistake........
I will analyze your proposed optimum as well and take a look at the food of thought you have provided me with right now.
Looking forward to expanding this discussion and maybe one day, we will come up with best practices for each different objective functions.

 

[jasonlee3882]

One of the best games

 

[Deleted member 111545]

expected release date?

 

[shazba]

expected release date?

Could be end of Oct or anytime Nov. Nothing's been published, we're all just guessing.

 

[EfontMan]

NO they are not fake ! I sucked both of them.

Heh. The thing I hate about it is that they obviously aren't fake (inasmuch as a 3D model can have "real" breasts). Fake tits tend to be much larger (which is kind of the whole point), more spherical (which is a major reason why they are so horrible), and have very obvious surgical scars on the undersides where the implants were inserted. Although the latter at least you can put down to the Daz assets lacking the appropriate texture. I don't really get why DPC included the line, other than to perhaps emphasise the fact that she's a stripper. If that was the intention then I really feel it was completely superfluous.

 

[shazba]

Heh. The thing I hate about it is that they obviously aren't fake (inasmuch as a 3D model can have "real" breasts). Fake tits tend to be much larger (which is kind of the whole point), more spherical (which is a major reason why they are so horrible), and have very obvious surgical scars on the undersides where the implants were inserted. Although the latter at least you can put down to the Daz assets lacking the appropriate texture. I don't really get why DPC included the line, other than to perhaps emphasise the fact that she's a stripper. If that was the intention then I really feel it was completely superfluous.

Yeah, I also found it a strange for mc to think that:

mc: "(Yeah, these tits are fake...but they still feel pretty good.)"​

I mean compare:

Spoiler: Lily's perfect pair

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with:

Spoiler: Maya's bolt-ons

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Don't get me wrong, I think:

Spoiler: Maya's body is fucking awesome!

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But it could be the ass that is hijacking my brain.

Tits are great and all, they can get party started, but they are only useful for so long. Once the party's over, the ass is where it's at:

Spoiler: Cosying up to your girl and just holding one of her boobs... nuh uh, it doesn't work like grabbing some ass.

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[EfontMan]

I also found it a strange for mc to think that

Ludomammary dissonance.

 

[shazba]

Ludomamary dissonance.

Or worse, our narrator is no longer a reliable source!

Mind you, he was pretty wasted that night, maybe he's allowed to have muddled thoughts...

EDIT: You must have changed it to " Ludomammary" seconds before I pressed reply, because I'm sure that wasn't there initially.

 

[oceanskie]

Ok, this is long overdue, I've meant to make this post ages ago but just couldn't find the time to go through the game to extract all that Lily goodness.

So I know, you all loved my previous posts on Quinn, Bella, Heather and Josy, and while I'd like to break down all the characters, they don't all have interesting progression arcs, but I've always wanted to do one for Lily, so here goes:

Spoiler: We first meet Lily in episode 3 in the "Walk of the Rejects". She walks in like she owns the joint.

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Spoiler: At the Pink Rose she takes a liking to the MC right away (or it could just be an act, damn strippers!)

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Spoiler: She's pretty easy going, but I think we all know, don’t put a finger in her ass! She doesn’t forgive you until episode 7!

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Spoiler: Her Pussy though, she doesn’t have a problem with that at all!

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Spoiler: When giving the mc and Derek a lap dance, pretty much all her attention is on the mc.

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Spoiler: Looks like all the girls wanna be with the mc at the Pink Rose, Lily’s got some competition!

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Spoiler: She vouches for the mc to the HOTs

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Spoiler: When asked truth or dare, she didn’t hesitate to ask for a dare.

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Spoiler: But when Ash balks at the idea of fucking the mc and runs off, Lily follows her to make sure she’s ok.

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Spoiler: Her exhibitionist streak isn’t just limited to the strip club!

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Spoiler: She enjoys irony.

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Spoiler: She definitely has a thing for the mc, she’s not just buttering up a customer.

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Spoiler: She’s can look very sultry.

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Spoiler: While we’ve established she’s didn’t like the finger in the asshole during work, she’s not adverse to a bit of analingus…

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Spoiler: She’s a bit like Liam Neeson – she has “a very particular set of skills”

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Spoiler: She has a bit of an ego, doesn’t like the suggestion that the mc’s cock may be too big for her to deepthroat. Ain’t reverse psychology great!

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Spoiler: And for the record, she can!

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Spoiler: She’s not afraid to stand up to Quinn.

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Spoiler: She doesn’t tolerate dickheads – slapped Dawe for parading the Cathy Cluck picture.

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Spoiler: She’s becoming more and more interested in the mc.

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Spoiler: She’s smart enough to work her way into Quinn’s good books.

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Spoiler: She’s creative…

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Spoiler: Although she didn’t care that much to be a HOT, she’s starting to get ambitious…

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After that final shot of her proposing she and the mc "roll together", her future role in the story could be very interesting.

I am eagerly anticipating your wonderful analysis regarding Sage.

 

[inevitableandinfinity8]

Heh. The thing I hate about it is that they obviously aren't fake (inasmuch as a 3D model can have "real" breasts). Fake tits tend to be much larger (which is kind of the whole point), more spherical (which is a major reason why they are so horrible), and have very obvious surgical scars on the undersides where the implants were inserted. Although the latter at least you can put down to the Daz assets lacking the appropriate texture. I don't really get why DPC included the line, other than to perhaps emphasise the fact that she's a stripper. If that was the intention then I really feel it was completely superfluous.

If I tell you the truth brother, I noticed that "obvious surgical scars". my first comment about sucking was all about humor and I agree with you on the matter.

 

[SpearOfReigns]

Melanie sucking up to Sage after HOT Party is a neat touch. Usually, she's always being sassy with Sarah on Rooster but not this time because Sage starts to see the light



"A-another great party Sage!"

 

[crunchycake]

Sorry that came from nowhere but I have a burning question after my recent run...

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Did we get answers for the above questions yet? If yes, then I prolly need to pay attention and start my 2nd playthrough X.X