VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.10.1] [DrPinkCake]

[CSLysander]

I hate to say this, but there are few AVN producers that rush production because it is far more profitable not to. There are some, but the majority make them slowly to milk what they can out of people.

 

[Klopdwerg]

Looks she's really not going to have her own agenda anytime soon but instead she'll be just a plot device for Jill. With how little screen time she gets i can't imagine Bella ruining the date with Jill and then getting her own big scene. Think it will be another 5 min scene at best which will be exactly the same as the last one just probably different angles, but they're definitely not fucking (huge surprise)


Dragging things out seems to be a DPC special and especially with the blackmail plot that makes no sense whatsover.

What exactly do you mean with the little screentime?
I know there is never enough Bella (or Jill) for me but can't complain for what we allready got.

 

[JETracktor]

Assuming his room wasn't touched,But why would Nick lie to mc?
To protect the anonymous guy who he does know or doesnt?: Now that's a new angle, adds more to the already complex plot without any reveal. He is an ally to the culprit and betrayed the diks.

To protect his friend?: Highly likely, and alphas aren't his allies or friends.
The friend could be anyone he knows.

Just put yourself on his position.
> Since you lost your maggot brother you already a little out of the group (remember - Vinny was "alpha" in their pair)
> Somebody trashed every single room in the mansion but yours
> You just sitting there and trying to understand wtf, why not yours
> Decided to play low to not stand out of group even more
> Later you lie about Arieth for the same reason (with literally same face expression and gestures)

 

[Lewdpussydick]

Just put yourself on his position.
> Since you lost your maggot brother you already a little out of the group (remember - Vinny was "alpha" in their pair)
> Somebody trashed every single room in the mansion but yours
> You just sitting there and trying to understand wtf, why not yours
> Decided to play low to not stand out of group even more
> Later you lie about Arieth for the same reason (with literally same face expression and gestures)

Alright, so I perfectly understand everything except the 2nd and 3rd because during conversation about nick room, nick said to mc to not tell about his room being cleaned so quickly to anyone.
Why would he do that if he wants to relate to everyone.

 

[Valoryn]

My mind had been set to the notion that HOT's free tuition come from Quinn's prostitution and drug racket. Turns out it was Stephen's scheme. Quinn is his provider of girls to fuck in exchange of free tuition due to sponsorship. Or it could also be that the provided girls will be fucked by those sponsors in exchange for free tuition (that's why Mona stormed out). Feels something fishy about Stephen's honorary professor title and "luck" in trade that made him rich. Or I'm already overthinking.

 

[Lewdpussydick]

My mind had been set to the notion that HOT's free tuition come from Quinn's prostitution and drug racket. Turns out it was Stephen's scheme. Quinn is his provider of girls to fuck in exchange of free tuition due to sponsorship. Or it could also be that the provided girls will be fucked by those sponsors in exchange for free tuition (that's why Mona stormed out). Feels something fishy about Stephen's honorary professor title and "luck" in trade that made him rich. Or I'm already overthinking.

You are normal. That's just sheet brilliance of DPC.
He is a mastermind at making amazing stories with an interesting take and mystified plot.
The guy has a PHD, already speaks a lot about his intellect.

 

[JETracktor]

Alright, so I perfectly understand everything except the 2nd and 3rd because during conversation about nick room, nick said to mc to not tell about his room being cleaned so quickly to anyone.
Why would he do that if he wants to relate to everyone.

Well, he got caught by MC by surprise and just decided to confide to him. Since at the moment MC already was kinda leader of DIKs he just believes him more than others.

 

[felicemastronzo]

What exactly do you mean with the little screentime?
I know there is never enough Bella (or Jill) for me but can't complain for what we allready got.

Getting out content for 5 LIs is hard but it's the way he goes about it that makes it that way, i think Maya and Josy take most of the time out of any episode with free roams here and there which leaves little time for everyone else. Bella's content always seems to be connected with Jill and it makes it seem like she doesn't really have anything other than that in her life. Bit sad if you ask me

I'm not giving up hope but i honestly don't see how is he going to fit M&J threesome, probably Sage sex scene from first preview, Jade thing, freeroam and DNG plus whatever else i missed and a big scene for Bella? a bit too much but maybe i'm wrong. Maybe not a fake date but will probably be a date that will not result on anything major because most of Bella's time will be spent on babysiting Jill


What i said above in my reply to Felice.

Bella is definitely the LI with less time on stage among the LIs, even than Josy who was not always at the BR. at the beginning she was practically a wild card inserted a bit where it happened (she finds MC without clothes, she hosts Cathe after the clutch...), or always at Jill's side, in a role that I still find very hypocritical...


I don't think we'll have D&G again yet, but I don't think anyone can take away a few good pages from the best seller written by Lynette...

for the sex itself there is always room, at the end the halloween party will be just a container of other events, then alternatively there will be Jade and (maybe) the threesome, the sex with Sage i don't think it will be a particularly important moment (forgive me Sage) it could addiruttra happen at the party.

I believe that the emotional center of this second season has been Jill, so her conclusion will be an inside or outside, and it may be that the outside (always to be seen how) starts the real story with Bella now free of this psychological burden (to start)

 

[PashafromRussia]

I don't know if you noticed it or not, but there are three love triangles in the game.
1. MС-Josy-Maya. It is a love triangle built on balance and self-esteem. Something like a Swedish family. Let's call it the neutral path.
2. MС- Jill-Bella. A love triangle in which two best friends vie for the attention of MC. Or the rivalry of two women who use soft ways to win. Let's call this triangle the Сhick triangle.
3. MC - Sage-Quinn. A love triangle in which there is a rivalry between two enemies. Even though Sage considers Quinn a friend, we ourselves know that their relationship is tense. Or the struggle of two powerful women for the attention of a guy. Let's call it the dik path.
Maybe it's just a coincidence, but it sounds interesting.
It just feels like the developer wants to show three sides of the same coin.

 

[Kingkela]

Still MILKING ...over 6 months... Now ,,,

 

[mpa71]

If you didn't notice on Discord, DPC usually use a pepe or characters in his status to tell what's he working on.
Extensive playtesting is definitely in progress as he said he would start. The next Status Report might be one of the lasts.

You better get your saves games ready.

 

[felicemastronzo]

If you didn't notice on Discord, DPC usually use a pepe or characters in his status to tell what's he working on.
Extensive playtesting is definitely in progress as he said he would start. The next Status Report might be one of the lasts.

You better get your saves games ready.

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I chose the cautious line, next week I start to play again, I still have to decide whether the run "the devil and holy water" with goals Jill and Quinn, or the always postponed "everyone hates Derek"....

 

[inevitableandinfinity8]

And what would blackmail have to do with any of this?

the bomb triggered for whoever pursues both Jill and Bella was already there before, and I don't think anything has changed (unless Bella dumps MC, but that also has nothing to do with blackmail)
the mechanism of jealousy also has nothing to do with blackmail, the only connection is the variation with and without teeth during the presentation, but that is simply an addition, a variation...
the problems between a Mc DIK and Jill these are not new either....

that segment just killed off a character, even if between now and the close of the game Jill found the cure for cancer she would still be the one who got played by that idiot Tybalt, against all evidence.
Jill was already a very special character, which still made it interesting in a context as "classic" as BADIK, did not need to be certified that she was the most naive of the naive, because if one is a virgin of course must also be the most naive of creation ...

I am agree to most of the point you have raised but I am not gonna digest this naive cactus, You know i mean i used to love this jill character but she gave lecture to mc at any given chance in every situation i remember. She argue with bella about tyblat issue while she says she(Jill) didn't see it as that way.
where the fuck her naiveness go when she bash mc about being poor and give self righteous lesson to bella.

I am not eating cactus because she want to pretend as naive but Intelligent and grateful to tyblat.
I am sure at this point it's not tybalt which caught jill in his net but more of jill wanted to be caught. While jill perfectly know what tyblat really want.

Still MILKING ...over 6 months... Now ,,,

Game like this with such great quality of render, animation and story suppose to take 6 to 7 months.

 

[felicemastronzo]

I am agree to most of the point you have raised but I am not gonna digest this naive cactus, You know i mean i used to love this jill character but she gave lecture to mc at any given chance in every situation i remember. She argue with bella about tyblat issue while she says she(Jill) didn't see it as that way.
where the fuck her naiveness go when she bash mc about being poor and give self righteous lesson to bella.

I am not eating cactus because she want to pretend as naive but Intelligent and grateful to tyblat.
I am sure at this point it's not tybalt which caught jill in his net but more of jill wanted to be caught. While jill perfectly know what tyblat really want.


Game like this with such great quality of render, animation and story suppose to take 6 to 7 months.

I'm not 100% sure I understand...and maybe the word naive has slightly different meanings for us.

the worst part of blackmail is just that: that it takes a character, undoes almost everything we had been told up to that point, and gives us back a lobotomized girl.

the fact that Jill wanted to denounce Chad's aggression is fine by me, I can also understand that it bothers Mc, but as an "adult" I approve, even the detachment in the way things are perceived between a super poor guy like MC and Jill is acceptable and realistic (for God's sake Mc doesn't have a television and has never seen an air-conditioned car. ...I would have a hard time talking to him). and I also agree with you that basically Jill trusts Tybalt, and again I don't see anything strange in that, if she considered him an overly annoying stalker I don't think she would continue to live with the Preps, not needing them.

But the way in which she lets herself be manipulated by a fool like Tybalt (whose plan is not at all clever, but forced and ridiculous), without closing help to anyone until it's too late (from the "blackmail" to when she talks about it with Bella passes at least a week), giving up to believe in justice and preferring the code of silence, cancel everything, from that moment on she can only be the naive Jill, what she did before and what she will do after will hardly emerge compared to that.

the character is ruined, for me in an irreversible way

 

[inevitableandinfinity8]

I'm not 100% sure I understand...and maybe the word naive has slightly different meanings for us.

the worst part of blackmail is just that: that it takes a character, undoes almost everything we had been told up to that point, and gives us back a lobotomized girl.

the fact that Jill wanted to denounce Chad's aggression is fine by me, I can also understand that it bothers Mc, but as an "adult" I approve, even the detachment in the way things are perceived between a super poor guy like MC and Jill is acceptable and realistic (for God's sake Mc doesn't have a television and has never seen an air-conditioned car. ...I would have a hard time talking to him). and I also agree with you that basically Jill trusts Tybalt, and again I don't see anything strange in that, if she considered him an overly annoying stalker I don't think she would continue to live with the Preps, not needing them.

But the way in which she lets herself be manipulated by a fool like Tybalt (whose plan is not at all clever, but forced and ridiculous), without closing help to anyone until it's too late (from the "blackmail" to when she talks about it with Bella passes at least a week), giving up to believe in justice and preferring the omertà, cancel everything, from that moment on she can only be the naive Jill, what she did before and what she will do after will hardly emerge compared to that.

the character is ruined, for me in an irreversible way

I also agree with you that basically Jill trusts Tybalt, : I agree with you but even after tyblat try blackmail her into dating, I mean the level of bs is off the chart. You remember the point she ask and pressure mc to do as she (jill) says but accept everything what tyblat says about fire. For god sake she didn't even see fire damage. Just roll over and start sucking tybalt thumb.

The greatest annoying part when mc tells Jill that tybalt is stalking her, she delete mc comment or removed it .
Right here :

 

[felicemastronzo]

I also agree with you that basically Jill trusts Tybalt, : I agree with you but even after tyblat try blackmail her into dating, I mean the level of bs is off the chart. You remember the point she ask and pressure mc to do as she (jill) says but accept everything what tyblat says about fire. For god sake she didn't even see fire damage. Just roll over and start sucking tybalt thumb.

The greatest annoying part when mc tells Jill that tybalt is stalking her, she delete mc comment or removed it .
Right here :
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rooster should never be taken seriously

Jill sunbathing in the backyard is about as believable as Bella letting a bikini photo of her with MC get posted, or Maya talking about her roommate.... are fun situations for us gamers.

the segment for me is terrible, if I could blame it on Jill's classism it would make it better

 

[inevitableandinfinity8]

I am really can't reach on any idea who is behind Cathy photo release. Laptop was found in library so I an sure no alphas goes there now remain some diiks, hot's and nerds. most of hots were at party and quinn was making shit out of tommy by letting josy play the making out game, nerds and some diks are in circle and Sarha and mel were also at party so can't those two lesbians(just for fun btw i know sarha likes dik).
I REALLY HAVE NO IDEA WHO IS RESPONSIBLE FOR CATHY PHOTO RELEASE.

 

[Kellermann]

if the player is not in a relationship with Bella, it doesn't matter if it's a real date or not, it will only serve to make him regret the way he behaved. at this point I hope it's the final moment for Jill and Bella's double-crossing, it would be sad to go any further.

anyway, let's think about the positive aspects:
we get rid of (or at least we get close to) Tybalt and his blackmail (never too soon)
we make a decisive step forward with Bella
DPC with a scene brings forward two plots, convenient for him and for us (although it depends on what he fills the space with)



I mean...

if Mc is not in a relationship with Jill why would he hide? and for Bella it's the same, she knows if Jill is interested or not

in the opposite situation, to do it in that moment is a huge shame...

it has only an "economic" motivation, one scene for two stories

Yes, that's mostly for a Jill/Bella run and while it's true that if this "date" is really just a ruse to ruin things for Tybalt, the thought of being spotted isn't quite as worrisome, but think on this... It's not so much Jill that MC has to hide from. There is a whole host of people at B&R that MC would rather not discover him on a date with a teacher. Unless you are doing an extremely faithful playthrough for your chosen girl (and even then), MC would have some explaining to do. And as I've said before, DPC would just love to have some random B&R person (not just LIs) happen to walk in to that exact restaurant at that exact time just to cause drama. Be it Jade, Stephan, Sage, Quinn, Nicole, one of the Jocks, just about anyone. Even Chad or Troy could walk in see MC and Bella and if you're not on good terms they could say, if you reveal our secret, we will reveal yours. Maya and Josy may not be bothered that much now, but it could play into their jealousy stats later on when the threesome begins to fracture.

MC has already been taking chances by posting bikini Bella to Rooster, inviting her to the DIK house, and being photographed with Bella in her nightie, on a Sunday morning at her home! (and clueless Jill posts it to Rooster ) Being caught dining out (with Bella dressed to the nines) would leave no doubts. I think MC and Bella's open actions in their "relationship" have been one of the most baffling things to me. At least fellow teacher Jade takes some reasonable precautions. Bella is just like fuck it, Imma do what I want. Consequences been damned.

"everyone hates Derek"....

 

[PashafromRussia]

If you didn't notice on Discord, DPC usually use a pepe or characters in his status to tell what's he working on.
Extensive playtesting is definitely in progress as he said he would start. The next Status Report might be one of the lasts.

You better get your saves games ready.

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Maybe he's just playing Far Cry 6

I'm not 100% sure I understand...and maybe the word naive has slightly different meanings for us.

the worst part of blackmail is just that: that it takes a character, undoes almost everything we had been told up to that point, and gives us back a lobotomized girl.

the fact that Jill wanted to denounce Chad's aggression is fine by me, I can also understand that it bothers Mc, but as an "adult" I approve, even the detachment in the way things are perceived between a super poor guy like MC and Jill is acceptable and realistic (for God's sake Mc doesn't have a television and has never seen an air-conditioned car. ...I would have a hard time talking to him). and I also agree with you that basically Jill trusts Tybalt, and again I don't see anything strange in that, if she considered him an overly annoying stalker I don't think she would continue to live with the Preps, not needing them.

But the way in which she lets herself be manipulated by a fool like Tybalt (whose plan is not at all clever, but forced and ridiculous), without closing help to anyone until it's too late (from the "blackmail" to when she talks about it with Bella passes at least a week), giving up to believe in justice and preferring the code of silence, cancel everything, from that moment on she can only be the naive Jill, what she did before and what she will do after will hardly emerge compared to that.

the character is ruined, for me in an irreversible way

In my opinion, the story of Jill and Tremolo is a classic love story of a poor man and a rich girl. And in order to follow this canon DPC was necessary to separate them somehow, to put an obstacle so that their love could overcome it. The developer could not think of anything better, and the topic of blackmail is a fertile topic in order to manipulate players. I agree that this is the weak part, but it can be understood as a game convention.

 

[sorco2003]

And what would blackmail have to do with any of this?

the bomb triggered for whoever pursues both Jill and Bella was already there before, and I don't think anything has changed (unless Bella dumps MC, but that also has nothing to do with blackmail)
the mechanism of jealousy also has nothing to do with blackmail, the only connection is the variation with and without teeth during the presentation, but that is simply an addition, a variation...
the problems between a Mc DIK and Jill these are not new either....

that segment just killed off a character, even if between now and the close of the game Jill found the cure for cancer she would still be the one who got played by that idiot Tybalt, against all evidence.
Jill was already a very special character, which still made it interesting in a context as "classic" as BADIK, did not need to be certified that she was the most naive of the naive, because if one is a virgin of course must also be the most naive of creation ...

The scenario itself gives rise to speculation about the reactions. Everyone in a restaurant while Jill simulates a date with Ty, Bella and the MC together "simulating" a date.
Everything I put is not because you don't know it exists, I put it because you don't know what would happen in that hypothetical scenario.
Yes, we know that the jealousy points made a single different scene in episode 7, but no more, will they do something in episode 8? How will affinity play in that "dating" crossover?
At what point does this relate to blackmail? That's the easy one, because if the speculation that the preview with Bella is in the same place as Ty's rooster, then that's already planned to break the date.
One last possibility, if the jealousy points are anything to go by, wouldn't Jill be all the time watching what the MC and Bella are doing? wouldn't she "snap" if she sees something suspicious?
Just a bunch of questions that don't mean it's reality, but that I'd like to check when the update comes out.