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I've spoken in the past about my mild distaste for the 'mind reader' narrative that we sometimes get. It can be a useful tool, but I sometimes think it would be more interesting if we did not always have it. Look at how differently this abridged scene with Jill feels without knowing her internal thoughts.

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I could have easily seen Fuckface thinking that maybe Tybalt was having some success with Jill. Certainly, it might have shaken his confidence. This really underlines how important that early morning text from Jill was. Jill was a real champion offering that jog. She went out of her comfort zone for Fuckface because I think she knew how poorly the night ended from his point of view.

Replay that scene and pretend that Jill's internal thoughts aren't there. It really feels different.
It's called a soliloquy and she is annoying, selfish, and overbearing anyway. Sympathy is a disease. I usually turn my brain off when I have to deal with her scenes because i've dealt with scores of people like her, they're not complicated. Norman Bates mom aka anxiety aka bad for my soul... you know who I am talking about, the one that's like fucking an angry bag of cats because you know you shouldn't but god why do I like this? What's more anooying to me is the authors use of soliloquy in backseat driving my MC... AArE YoU ReAlLLy GoNnA rUin HeR LiFe For ClOuT fRom Som JuvInIle IdiOts sOn? no, and it's bullshit that you lose Cathy over this presumably. I know that you can say no but I can't, i'm just nice like that. Don't understand? How about an analogy (Hehe anal) "Next time on The Dumb and the Horny MC tries to fix a toaster... but gets his dick stuck in it? Plot twist! The toaster wasn't broken it just wasn't plugged in but that's ok because here comes X character to plug it in an judge you for it." Everybody always asks "Why MC?' but they never ask "How MC?" and Cathy didn't go down on MC, alright? It was a goodbye kiss. It was innocent. It's not MCs fault Cathy is clumsy and ended up doing what she did, maybe if she didn't drink so much... MC didn't cheat on Isabella, Isabella is cheating on MC with her husband! Do you have any idea what that does to a man? It's like she doesn't even care!
 
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sorco2003

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The 21st Major Choice would force a CHICK or DICK Affinity at the latest since that's the last chance to hold out and not have the choices made for you. Since we're at 13 Major Choices now, and it's almost always been 2 per Episode, we're probably 4-5 away unless it slows down a bit.

I've also thought for a couple months now that it looks like there could be a CHICK side and a DICK side to each of the main love interests coming. If you reject Sage early and continue to play the CHICK path, you can get back on her path at the HOTs party in this last Episode. So would that be a CHICK path for Sage? Just wondering? And with the jealousy of Jill at the end of the episode depending on your route, is that a hint at a future DICK path with Jill? Again, just wondering.
If you reach major choice number 17 you will have a fixed neutral affinity. What will that mean for the development of the game, we will see it in episode 9 hopefully.
I leave a link to a post by Meushi where he shows what the game code says about fixed affinities.

https://f95zone.to/threads/being-a-dik-v0-7-2-dr-pinkcake.25332/post-5143109
 
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Yeah I agree, it’s probably not the optimum path for Jill, but it’s a very hard one to avoid, it is so funny. :p

If you’re just 100% team Jill, then there’s no jealousy on her behalf. I’ve never done that, but that results in Josy thinking it’s Tybalt’s cock and I guess Sage says nothing, but I don’t know how Jill reacts (she doesn’t go crying to Josy in the bathroom though).
Uh... I tested it... Jill still knew it's the MC's cock... That stupid Tybalt yelled that out as soon as the presentation was over ( Tybalt knew it's the MC's cock... he saw it after the tennis match and apparently mentally scared for life), and Jill heard it (on Bella only path), but she didn't go crying and need Josy's comfort if I remember correctly.

So, yeah, only way to get perfect score with Jill is prolly don't confess your love to Tybalt indirectly...
 
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Jill path a few episodes from now:

Jill's mom leaving MC's room and doing the walk of shame in the DIK mansion. :LOL: This is a down payment to Jill's mom for approving the marriage of Jill and MC.
 

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Yeah I agree, it’s probably not the optimum path for Jill, but it’s a very hard one to avoid, it is so funny. :p

If you’re just 100% team Jill, then there’s no jealousy on her behalf. I’ve never done that, but that results in Josy thinking it’s Tybalt’s cock and I guess Sage says nothing, but I don’t know how Jill reacts (she doesn’t go crying to Josy in the bathroom though).
I'm 100% team Jill. I didn't take pictures of my junk on someone else's phone. I figured it would make me look kind of sleazy if that ever got out since I'm trying to show Jill I'm not to type of guy that does things like taking pictures of my junk on other peoples phones. I think taking the dik pic will also have detrimental effects on the Bella path. :rolleyes:
 

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Realistically there were only a few ways to handle it. Originally, I expected we'd just keep removing boxes (right through neutral if necessary) until we were only left with a single box, which would then effectively lock both our Status and Affinity. Once Permanent Affinity was revealed in Episode 6, I was hoping we'd still be be able to make the choices (they just wouldn't affect our Affinity anymore). In retrospect that sort of flexibility isn't DPC's style; the reason the system is so overly-complicated in the first place was probably to dissuade people from metagaming. So it really should not have been a surprise that not only are choices forced, the game will hide the choice itself, too.

In the long run that might be for the best; as I said, the rationale behind why some choices are more important than others was always the weakest link in the system. So if DPC does a good job tying future choices to a consistent 'ideal' for CHICK and DIK actions, it will probably give us the same replay value with less argument and less work from DPC. It won't be great at handling nuanced outlooks, but that was always going to be a big ask for an automated system.

Big IF though.



It's a good question. My first thought was that we could eventually get permanent Neutral Affinity if we play both sides long enough - though it would probably take all of Season 3 to get there.

But that does leave the question of what permanent Neutral Affinity would mean in practice. I doubt DPC would keep writing Major Decisions into the game just for Neutrals (who wouldn't even change their affinity as a result). So either the hypothetical Neutral would either get a standard choice (CHICKs or DIKs would either get no choice or have the other option greyed out), or the game would automatically pick CHICK or DIK for each action based on secondary information (sort of like how the ability to fight Caleb is DIK, but is also locked by the decision to fight the Jocks in Episode 2).

The second option is probably better, but neither seems all that satisfying. So I'm going to reverse course and say the decisions will probably continue until one side of the bar is completely exhausted. If I'm right, hopefully I'll remember this post when we finally learn the truth in ~2025. :cool:
If the prospect of 10 chapters was ever real, and only DPC knows this, it would have gone all the way to the end without any blocking of choices.

otherwise agreed
 
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I've spoken in the past about my mild distaste for the 'mind reader' narrative that we sometimes get. It can be a useful tool, but I sometimes think it would be more interesting if we did not always have it. Look at how differently this abridged scene with Jill feels without knowing her internal thoughts.

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I could have easily seen Fuckface thinking that maybe Tybalt was having some success with Jill. Certainly, it might have shaken his confidence. This really underlines how important that early morning text from Jill was. Jill was a real champion offering that jog. She went out of her comfort zone for Fuckface because I think she knew how poorly the night ended from his point of view.

Replay that scene and pretend that Jill's internal thoughts aren't there. It really feels different.
Might be on point, yeah. After MC's interactions with each of the girls and how they each react, MC choosing not to fight makes more sense imo. He'll find more common ground with others
But hey, love has no logic... So to speak
 

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shazba and crabsinthekitchen i played and it was hilarious. But i don't think it's the best ending for Jill path.

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Got a save where Sage path is active, fucked Josy in ep 2, and Jill path is active. They all recognized it was MC's dick, Jill cried in the bathroom, still got the "this guy I like" vs. "this guy I thought I liked" dialogue and all the other Jill stuff of ep 7.

I think its good for her growth, she needs to grow up. Like Josy said, competition for MC exists and now she's fully aware of that. Im definitely sticking with that choice
 
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Got a save where Sage path is active, fucked Josy in ep 2, and Jill path is active. They all recognized it was MC's dick, Jill cried in the bathroom, still got the "this guy I like" vs. "this guy I thought I liked" dialogue and all the other Jill stuff of ep 7.

I think its good for her growth, she needs to grow up. Like Josy said, competition for MC exists and now she's fully aware of that. Im definitely sticking with that choice

Yeah i get the same but i don't want to upset my lovely Jill. And i don't want to give any chance to Jill for being upset cause she has basicly no experience. I don't want to her feel awful.
 

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Yeah i get the same but i don't want to upset my lovely Jill. And i don't want to give any chance to Jill for being upset cause she has basicly no experience. I don't want to her feel awful.
Got a save where Sage path is active, fucked Josy in ep 2, and Jill path is active. They all recognized it was MC's dick, Jill cried in the bathroom, still got the "this guy I like" vs. "this guy I thought I liked" dialogue and all the other Jill stuff of ep 7.

I think its good for her growth, she needs to grow up. Like Josy said, competition for MC exists and now she's fully aware of that. Im definitely sticking with that choice
Wow why did I never see that.. My MC fucked every fuckable character in the game from Ep1 till ep 7, i got Sage's path active, Jill's path active and Bella's path active plus my MCs in a relationship with Maya/Josey and Jill but I never got the crying scene or Jill finding out about MC banging other girls or dating other girls
 

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Wow why did I never see that.. My MC fucked every fuckable character in the game from Ep1 till ep 7, i got Sage's path active, Jill's path active and Bella's path active plus my MCs in a relationship with Maya/Josey and Jill but I never got the crying scene or Jill finding out about MC banging other girls or dating other girls
Then you didn't take the dick pic in EP5 :

ep5_tybalts_phone.jpg ep5_tybalts_phone.jpg ep7_tyb_pres_dp1.jpg
 

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You find his phone but it is locked. You are given the option to take a dick pic or just leave it alone.
 

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I am definitely not one to boast about "The story of a video game"... But there is something about this game which perfectly identifies with a part of me who wishes I could experience exactly what the main character does. To be admired, both physically and mentally, by gorgeous women... To choose whether to be a nice guy, or a SOAB... To be a hero in a social circle...
Plus, as game design goes, the quality that went into the art and music selection in some ways is on par with GTAV.

Thanks for an amazing creation (/salute)
 

felicemastronzo

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Shit I think this was where u had to steal Tybalts phone right? during the break in or was it during the initiation party.. Im not sure but by my variables it says something about me not stealing Tybalts phone so I definitely missed it
Preps party
 

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You mean you wish to experience running around naked/in underwear with or without a skimask on during both night and day while stealing random pointless stuff? Are you a weirdo?? You'll fit right in then :whistle:
Damn rights! If I was as hot as he is, I would run around nekkid the same way, from party to party. lol
 
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You mean you wish to experience running around naked/in underwear with or without a skimask on during both night and day while stealing random pointless stuff? Are you a weirdo?? You'll fit right in then :whistle:
Well. Compared to the boring "study a lot, fail exams a lot just like everyone, near to zero social life" i experienced in Italian university i guess i'd go with it.
 
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