VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.10.1] [DrPinkCake]

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hakuna-matata

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Heycock said:
Yeah Maya haters share this wierd notion for wich to hate a fictional character is a normal thing yet to love it is absurd. To speak against a character is reasanoble yet to speak in behalf of it its ridicoulus.

At the end of the day they pretend a judgement with an accusation yet not with a defense.

It has sense? No, but since their arguments are so weak they need to make out things like that.

Imagine a world in wich hate is considered natural yet love is considered anatural... what a wonderfull world.
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I don't think people hate her. I think she's just badly written.
 
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hakuna-matata said:
I don't think people hate her. I think she's just badly written.
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Never gets old :p

JohnDelfino said:
I can't believe Maya is in this game. Why would DPC force Maya down our throat by putting Maya in this game? Scenes with girls who are not Maya are fine because it is a VN and they are part of the story but Maya has a scene and I can't believe he would shove Maya down our throats by having scenes with Maya. Why are there scenes with Maya? Maya fans will defend Maya being in the game because they are obsessed with Maya unlike me who is not obsessed with Maya. Maya.
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sixart said:
Nope :p But you are making a mistake here " elevating these things to arguments " ... these are just made to create an uproar nothing more nothing less... But gotta hand it to them you all make this happen with these " singing odes " about someone with such things as tiermaker BS or just posts in general that states " x is the best fuck all the rest " :LOL: There are some that don't handle these things accordingly... and I'm not writing this because I wanna speak up ( now Maya ) for any characters ! Everyone is entitled to his/her own opinion... HOW you share it though....... :rolleyes:
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Maybe you are right. I never made a tiermaker... couse, who cares? but you know what?, I wanna get out of the closet. You know who "is the best fuck all the rest"?

Camila.

She is the most beautifull, perfect skin, perfect waist, perfect ass, and thoose lips...

No character arc, no deep psicology, no child traumas, no good or bad, no interest or agenda... only a simple, animal, burning passion for MC's dick.
And the compromise to take it against the wall in a college bathroom at class time with her best friend next to her.

Sweet Jesus Lord I would gay married that woman.
 
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godkingxerxes

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Heycock said:
Maybe you are right. I never made a tiermaker... couse, who cares? but you know what?, I wanna get out of the closet. You know who "is the best fuck all the rest"?

Camila.

She is the most beautifull, perfect skin, perfect waist, perfect ass, and thoose lips...

No character arc, no deep psicology, no child traumas, no good or bad, no interest or agenda... only a simple, animal, burning passion for MC's dick.
And the compromise to take it against the wall in a college bathroom at class time with her best friend next to her.

Sweet Jesus Lord I would gay married that woman.
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Cammy fucked Burke and gets free tuition.
 
sixart

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Heycock said:
You know who "is the best fuck all the rest"?
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Yes :p
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I'm not reading ALL the posts here so I don't know if there is a Cammy fan club... what you wrote is not wrong at any points ( maybe the most beautiful... that's subjective ! ) but at the same time it makes her a cannon fodder to these folks :LOL:

Any so the Merry-Go-Around goes on and on and on... o_O:rolleyes::ROFLMAO:
 
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felicemastronzo said:
you're right: the contrast is there, but in my opinion it's mainly due to the fact that a porn game is not very suitable to talk about a "serious" theme

in a world of bisexual girls, it's the lesbians who seem intransigent zealots.... :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:

about Patrick what can I say... he is the classic DPC villain, not at all frightening. in a moment (in theory... actually six months) from the end of the sixth chapter to the beginning of the seventh he went from being a mortal danger for Maya and especially Josy, to a naive man who just needs to look into his eyes to make them believe anything...

for now Vinnie still has some credibility, mainly because we have almost never seen him yet...
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I think this is a side effect of releasing the game in multiple episodes. To make the whole thing more confusing, time passes very slowly in the game.

The game was released in February 2019, almost 2 years, we have 8 episodes with a lot of stories, and in game only 2 and a half or barely 3 months have passed.


Otherwise, yes it might seem weird to think that the guy who wants to control his daughter's life lets her go to college.

But in order to control or influence someone's life, you have to be part of their life. If you pull too much on the leash, it ends up breaking, and there you no longer have any power over whoever is attached to it.
 
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No that doesn't make sense either.

I'll go from how it is in the US because that's what I'm most familiar with, banking laws are similar enough in most countries that we can speak broadly here based on US law.

First of all the Loan. Given the facts that are laid out in game dialogue, although even this is a muddled given the way DPC wrote it. At the end of Ep6 Maya says that her Father co-signed her student loan and is now holding the money back to keep her from being with Josy. This is FALSE, in most student loans the money is sent directly from the bank to the College. Even in cases where the person who took the loan out receives the money, that money would go to Maya not her Father. So this is also FALSE.
Then to complicate things further in Ep7 DPC has Maya tell us that it was her Father who took out the loan and that she was the co-signer. This is FALSE. No loan officer is going to let a penniless teenager co-sign for a loan. Why am I so sure of this? Because the bank doesn't want to be shut down by the government and the loan officer doesn't want to go to jail, and that's exactly what would happen if a government regulator ever saw that loan application.

Next the Money. While applying for a loan the question will be asked what is the purpose of this loan? It could be for many things, to buy a house or car. To start a business. Or to pay for education. This is the Law, it's part of a series of laws to prevent money laundering, the bank will require proof that the money has been used for it's intended purpose.
And this is the point where everything falls apart. If Patrick does not let Maya use the money to pay for college then the bank is going to come and take it back.

This also addresses the idea that Patrick borrowed money from someone other than a bank. Lending is licensed in most of the world, in fact any money passing through international banks or lending institutions requires documentation similar to that I outlined above on the purpose of the money. This is also a part of laws to prevent money laundering.

So there is no way in any modern world scenario that Patrick could use money to force Maya to not date Josy.
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You're still making wild assumptions. Laws surrounding money lending are not half as stringent as you think. You've just written a shit load about banks and whatever... loan officers. They're not the only people on earth lending out money. Yeah, organised money lending from formal institutions have guidelines but at the other end of the spectrum two people can verbally agree a loan and it's legally binding. Money laundering laws don't apply to everything in the universe.

This isn't a plot hole. You're making it a plot hole by assuming the nature of the loan from perhaps two lines of dialogue. All this about banks, loan officers... "student loans"... this is all an assumption about the nature of the loan. It's a shit storyline but deep diving into criticisms of it born from assumption wastes everyone's time.

The laws in this fictional country are not known to us. Even if we start making assumptions based on reality there are ways around these things. For all we know she got a fucking tribal loan from some native American reservation (entirely bypassing alllllll you just wrote by operating in the grey areas of the law in a similar vein to their casinos).

No bank would operate like this, no formal student loan would... for the record I believe this is just DPC coming up with a contrived story element and he didn't think it through but despite that my point was there are other ways to borrow money and no matter how unlikely they are everyone needs to just accept it for what it is rather than deep diving into the law and consulting with their sister lawyers, usury uncles or fucking fiduciary fiancees to get a "professional" opinion on the legality of loans in a damn titty game.
 
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What is the point of the 0.8.2 patch on the first page? If i'm installing for the first time (no existing save), do I need to bother with that patch?
 
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mindern said:
The laws in this fictional country are not known to us.
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Yes they are. We assume laws are like in any developed country. I'm sure we all think rape and burglary is illegal and punished in BaDIK, for example. There may be small differences, an american will see some things different from an european so sometimes context is needed.

In a realistic setting like BaDIK you need extra context when something extraordinary happens (like a flying unicorn), you have to explain it right to get suspension of disbelief, otherwise you'll think "no way".

The problem with the loan it's that is badly explained because using a loan to blackmail Maya is a little bit convoluted, most people don't know/don't understand how to do that/don't know if it's possible.

I can accept the loan as an effective blackmail device but that doesn't mean you have to dismiss lawyers and professional help, because BaDik is a realistic world. That may very well be a solution, we don't know what is going to happen.
 
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How is BaDIK in a fictional country? We know Zoey took a train to San Diego and one of the Swyper girls is from New York?

I'm beginning to think a vast majority of you people only look at the pictures. Which makes it even harder to explain how you end up Maya fans.
 
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kyrlian said:
Yes they are. We assume laws are like in any developed country. I'm sure we all think rape and burglary is illegal and punished in BaDIK, for example. There may be small differences, an american will see some things different from an european so sometimes context is needed.

In a realistic setting like BaDIK you need extra context when something extraordinary happens (like a flying unicorn), you have to explain it right to get suspension of disbelief, otherwise you'll think "no way".

The problem with the loan it's that is badly explained because using a loan to blackmail Maya is a little bit convoluted, most people don't know/don't understand how to do that/don't know if it's possible.

I can accept the loan as an effective blackmail device but that doesn't mean you have to dismiss lawyers and professional help, because BaDik is a realistic world. That may very well be a solution, we don't know what is going to happen.
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There is not two kinds of narratives for wich one has unicorns and the other is a copy of reality. There are hundreds of different tipes of narratives. Take the simpsons, sometimes goes fantastic, true, but most of time they don't. Yet the main premise of the show goes around the security supervisor of a nuclear plant that don't know his job. That thing is not realistic, yet it works anyway. With Badik the same happens.
You want it explain at first?
Ok, here you go:
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In real life Dawe will be bye bye by episode 1. This is not how the world works. And every resemblence of realism has been sacrifices from the start in exchange of... one joke.
 
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