VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.10.1] [DrPinkCake]

[varage]

Ok, but you didn't answer any of my points:

Maya lied to be on equal terms, not to take advantage.

The MC didn't really care about what was being lie, so the lie is not significant.

MC doesn't need to lie couse it's a porn game so his behaviour is going to be accepted. Maya is simple more tolerant with the MC flaws than the MC.

And there is another point. You actually have the option to lie. We are simple considering the worst posible path for Maya but it could be way worst. The MC liying and having sex with not two but many girls.

I find the worst cheater here is the MC. Maya could have lie but the MC is an hypocrite, he could fuck all what he wants but as soon as someone fuck behind his back he get angry.

1. She still caught feelings along with the MC it wasn't just the MC intiating interactions between the two.
2. The MC did care about Maya lieing after she forced him to be 100% honest which he does by telling her he's going on a date when he goes home.
3.Yes it's a porn game but in your same logic Maya doesn't need to lie because you're still fucking maya either way even if she was currently on another guys cock you taking another hole thats porn logic. But because it's story based she did lie. And in that scenario even in the real world. MC has no reason to lie to Maya as they are not even close to being in a relationship atm.
4.Yes you can lie if you want but it's up to you to decide. And im also not painting the MC as the almighty righty.
I'm, painting him as why he felt that way and why i think Maya was a greater cause then Josy.
Because she forces him to be crudually honest with her from day one but isn't ready to do the same which Maya admits later on she should have.

I'm not calling Maya the devil I love her and all other LI in this game except maybe Jill I don't hate Jill but I don't really like her.
I was simply answering the question given as to why the MC freaked out.

 

[ThaRealThiccShady]

I know exactly what you mean but he knew Quinn was a bitch but tbh Quinn is the only bitch amongst the hots. Not to mention you never know what was on the other hots scavenger hunts some seem to be slightly sexual in nature even if not directly like Maya's. Used male underwear from MC for Camilla. Making out with someone from Lilly.

Not to mention Josy is a party girl by nature. And all she wanted was a right to choose her lot in college you know something that Maya is not allowed to do. So, Maya being like that is in fact understandable, but she is essentially her dad 2.0 in that moment trying to forbid Josy from being a HOT.

Interesting points but I think Maya wasn’t trying to prevent Josy from being a HOT she just wasn’t thrilled by it and was especially not thrilled by Josy repeatedly rubbing her face in it the day after. Even then she didn’t get that upset at Josy it was more of a: “Really? You’re saying all this to me, right now? And you’re shocked I’m not happy about it?”

Totally off topic but anyone know what the content of the most recent update on Patreon was? I know we’re not getting anything anytime soon but it helps the wait to stay in the loop

 

[namelessone22]

Josy is gonna cuck you? LOL to be fair you cucked her first. The look on her face when she was outed to you as Maya's girlfriend and when you outed yourself to Maya as Josy's boyfriend were equally hilarious. The resulting endless triangle of cuck is one of the best storylines in the game. Josy put all of her points into charm and treated honesty as a dump stat, but we love her anyway. I don't think anybody will hold it against her if she snakes Jill too. She will have to get past Bella, though. She has dibs.

I know I'm gonna sound like an idiot
but for ages I thought Bella was supposed to be Jill's Mother, and they just didn't want to have their (family) relationship known at school (typical 'kid doesn't want school kids to know their mom's a teacher at the school').
For this I blame the photo which at the time I thought was Jill on Bella's shoulders.

From a couple of posts I've read here & there, I assume this is wrong (hence the idiot part)
Would someone mind telling what the truth actually is & where I find it in the game (I've either skipped it or haven't gotten that far)

Please put answer in spoiler tag for those that don't want to know.
Thx

 

[varage]

you are wrong! its only cheating if you lie about it!

They are all in the wrong for cheating but i think the lieing is what hurt mc the most.
Thats why when asked he says im tired of the lies not to mention the entire time he's with Josy knowing someone else is out there she's supposed to be with tares him up inside. So much so that you as the player get the choice as to how far you can take it. Even if you don't sleep with Josy, he's still upset about cheating by going to dinner with her kissing her etc.

Maya denied him that bit of self-reflection. Unlike Josy. Thats why he says he's tired of liars not cheaters.

 

[sixart]

Why Warscared, because you say so?

Pretty much... Oh snap ! I snatched another potential reply...

Think you all take this too seriously... yeah might be technically it is a lie but let's not be hypocrates here all the characters lie about something(s) pretty much as do flesh and blood real life persons Besides... cheating would only be on the table if they would have been in a relationship ( any of the trio ) but since they were not how the fuck did this popped up in the first place ? What they ended up in is a no strings attached situation between the three of them so again... lie ( it depends on your MC... if you fuck around like a real dick then you constantly lie ) and cheat ???

 

[varage]

He's also the one that outs Josy to Maya. You remember all that self reflection the we're back together moments between Maya and Josy they were living a lie neither of them were honest with each other about what they did with the MC and just focused on the we're finally back together it took MC to stop the lie's during the party.
If they really cared about each other when MC took out his phone and showed the picture of his Girl he went on a date with Maya wouldn't have been surprised she woulda said i know JOSY TOLD ME. And Maya would have told Josy what happened between MC and her in return. That's why mc said "Why are they sitting together just yesterday they were ready to break up." It's because Maya and Josy rekindled their relationship on lie's or as people like saying Omissions of truth.

 

[Heycock]

1. She still caught feelings along with the MC it wasn't just the MC intiating interactions between the two.
2. The MC did care about Maya lieing after she forced him to be 100% honest which he does by telling her he's going on a date when he goes home.
3.Yes it's a porn game but in your same logic Maya doesn't need to lie because you're still fucking maya either way even if she was currently on another guys cock you taking another hole thats porn logic. But because it's story based she did lie. And in that scenario even in the real world. MC has no reason to lie to Maya as they are not even close to being in a relationship atm.
4.Yes you can lie if you want but it's up to you to decide. And im also not painting the MC as the almighty righty.
I'm, painting him as why he felt that way and why i think Maya was a greater cause then Josy.
Because she forces him to be crudually honest with her from day one but isn't ready to do the same which Maya admits later on she should have.

I'm not calling Maya the devil I love her and all other LI in this game except maybe Jill I don't hate Jill but I don't really like her.
I was simply answering the question given as to why the MC freaked out.

I know you are not a Maya hater. I just thing you are wrong. Well technically you are wright, the story is meant to be read that way, it's just it doesnt have sense for me. I think the MC is being hypocrite and egocentric.

1)I didn't understand well this one, maybe if you explain it different i can understand it. If not, if it is what i think, both Maya and Josy had feelings for the MC, he didn't care about that.

2) Yeah, i know, but that's a suddenly change of mood. He didn't care about Josy having a boyfriend when he was fucking her in her parents bed. We can asume he wouldn't care if Maya has told him that she has a boyfriend. But suddenly in ep4 he make a big thing out of it.

3) What i meant is that the MC actually say to a lot of girls he is having sex with other girls and noone care. It's only a thing when the girls has sex with others. That's why he can. It's player psicology, don't forget that a lot of people send Josy under the bus as well.

4) Yeah it's up to you i know. What i try to say is that we are choosing the worst posible outcome to judge Maya and considere it canonical. We have no reason to do so. We could choose a better outcome an considerer equally canonical. It's unfair to Maya.

Anyway, it doesnt matter really.

there is no exclusivity clause for the MC, the fact that the Maya and Josy exclusivity clause for each other makes an exception for the MC does not mean the MC must stick by it!

as long as he does not lie he is not cheating

And there is no exclusivity for Maya as well. The lie part you made it completely out of your ass and it's completely absurd.

 

[namelessone22]

Sniffing a huge dose of Copium i see.

Who the Fuck is KRJ?

 

[Heycock]

Pretty much... Oh snap ! I snatched another potential reply...

Think you all take this too seriously... yeah might be technically it is a lie but let's not be hypocrates here all the characters lie about something(s) pretty much as do flesh and blood real life persons Besides... cheating would only be on the table if they would have been in a relationship ( any of the trio ) but since they were not how the fuck did this popped up in the first place ? What they ended up in is a no strings attached situation between the three of them so again... lie ( it depends on your MC... if you fuck around like a real dick then you constantly lie ) and cheat ???
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It's a classic:

If its just a blowjob is not cheating.

If it's anal sex is not cheating.

If he is more than 2000 miles away is not cheating.

If you are thinking in baby Jesus is not cheating.

 

[namelessone22]

I can't find the Patreon render of DPC anymore. But she was hot, I mean really hot.

Assuming this isn't a joke, anyone have the actual pic mentioned (if it's a joke, disregard, obviously )

 

[varage]

I know you are not a Maya hater. I just thing you are wrong. Well technically you are wright, the story is meant to be read that way, it's just it doesnt have sense for me. I think the MC is being hypocrite and egocentric.

1)I didn't understand well this one, maybe if you explain it different i can understand it. If not, if it is what i think, both Maya and Josy had feelings for the MC, he didn't care about that.

2) Yeah, i know, but that's a suddenly change of mood. He didn't care about Josy having a boyfriend when he was fucking her in her parents bed. We can asume he wouldn't care if Maya has told him that she has a boyfriend. But suddenly in ep4 he make a big thing out of it.

3) What i meant is that the MC actually say to a lot of girls he is having sex with other girls and noone care. It's only a thing when the girls has sex with others. That's why he can. It's player psicology, don't forget that a lot of people send Josy under the bus as well.

4) Yeah it's up to you i know. What i try to say is that we are choosing the worst posible outcome to judge Maya and considere it canonical. We have no reason to do so. We could choose a better outcome an considerer equally canonical. It's unfair to Maya.

Anyway, it doesnt matter really.




And there is no exclusivity for Maya as well. The lie part you made it completely out of your ass and it's completely absurd.

I'll answer 1 and 4. You're right and so am i. But he did care about the cheating such as the self reflection he was denied i mentioned but he was also wrong that's why the first choice of season 4 was. Do you think you over reacted? I have yet to click no on that question because he did in fact over react through shock and surprize. He chose the worse possible way out of the situation which was running away in the immortal words of derek.
"I woulda tried to turn it into a threesome. If it wasn't my sister of course."

 

[sixart]

It's a classic:

If its just a blowjob is not cheating.

If it's anal sex is not cheating.

If he is more than 2000 miles away is not cheating.

If you are thinking in baby Jesus is not cheating.

None of the above BUT we are not in a relationship... hence it's not cheating

 

[namelessone22]

"Give me a Josy Vasili, one Josy only please."

Loved 'The Hunt for Red October'! (One of my all-time faves)

Sean Connery, Alec Baldwin = awesome

Don't know how to add 'spoiler' (sorry) but James Earl Jones (DarthVader) where the torpedo's just about to hit and his hand comes on screen & presses the sel-detonate button.
Looks at the guy at the controls & says "You heard the torpedo hit the hull... and I was never here" *& pulls out his CIA ID Badge*

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* Sorry, long-winded

 

[sixart]

Loved 'The Hunt for Red October'! (One of my all-time faves)

Sean Connery, Alec Baldwin = awesome

Don't know how to add 'spoiler' (sorry) but James Earl Jones (DarthVader) where the torpedo's just about to hit and his hand comes on screen & presses the sel-detonate button.
Looks at the guy at the controls & says "You heard the torpedo hit the hull... and I was never here" *& pulls out his CIA ID Badge*

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* Sorry, long-winded

Right... next time a chinese dude pops up then we refer to " gimme a Ping ( Vasily ) "

 

[Warscared]

I'll answer 1 and 4. You're right and so am i. But he did care about the cheating such as the self reflection he was denied i mentioned but he was also wrong that's why the first choice of season 4 was. Do you think you over reacted? I have yet to click no on that question because he did in fact over react through shock and surprize. He chose the worse possible way out of the situation which was running away in the immortal words of derek.
"I woulda tried to turn it into a threesome. If it wasn't my sister of course."

he did not over react! they removed his ability to make an informed decision! thus they treated him as an object and not a means onto himself with the ability to choose!

had he been presented with the full situation and information then he would not have had the right to bitch, but he did not!

why did the girls lie? because most likely he would have droped them?
fuck he did not drop Josy ... he was being honest!

the girls lieing shows their weakness and inability to trust him, unlike he as trusted them!
them lieing also shows they play a duplicitous game they refuse to drop their current relationship,
but also want to keep their options open and resort t lies to have their cake and eat it too!

it means they like the MC and lie because they are afraid of his reaction!
stupidly all unfounded except for their own projection onto the MC of what they would do if in his position,
instead of acknowledging that the MC is an entity capable of his own decisions (you know a human being)!

they removed the MC`S humanity when they lied to him and tried to turn him into an object for their own gain!

So no the MC did not over react!

 

[varage]

he did not over react! they removed his ability to make an informed decision! thus they treated him as an object and not a means onto himself with the ability to choose!

had he been presented with the full situation and information then he would not have had the right to bitch, but he did not!

why did the girls lie? because most likely he would have droped them?
fuck he did not drop Josy ... he was being honest!

the girls lieing shows their weakness and inability to trust him, unlike he as trusted them!
them lieing also shows they play a duplicitous game they refuse to drop their current relationship,
but also want to keep their options open and resort t lies to have their cake and eat it too!

it means they like the MC and lie because they are afraid of his reaction!
stupidly all unfounded except for their own projection onto the MC of what they would do if in his position,
instead of acknowledging that the MC is an entity capable of his own decisions (you know a human being)!

they removed the MC`S humanity when they lied to him and tried to turn him into an object for their own gain!

So no the MC did not over react!

Well i dunno if you noticed but they lied to each other as much as they lied to him. Josy and Maya got back together while still lieing to each other. That's one of the reasons that MC refused to talk to them for so long in season 4.

 

[Heycock]

why is the MC responsible for those 2 girls if they choose to lie? why is it his responsibility?
fuck they are the one´s who must be held accountable to themselves!

and no i am not pulling anything out of my ass!
the empirical categories of Kant, yes its an entire school of philosophy!

The MC is only responsible for his actions, the same for the girls, as long as his actions to not curtail the girls right to choose or act he can never be in the wrong, if he so chooses to lie and therefore removes information for the girls to make an informed decision then yes he comes into the wrong and thus becomes a lieing cheater!

thus the cheating is not the issue, its that lies that come with it, that remove the humanity of those who are lied to!

Is the MC responsability according to the argument being held (if i correctely understood varage post). There are not one but two different aproach about the question. For one way of thinking you are held responsabile by the negative outcomes of your actions, by the other you are also responsable for the negative outcomes of your lack of actions. It doesn't matter how you think about this you can't think about this problem in terms of aboluts. If you see a guy dying of thirst and you have galleons of water, if you let him die you area total sheet, at the same everyone will acknowledge a limit in how much you can sacrifice for the well being of others.

I know where you stand in this argument, i disagree, i find your position horrible, but I am not going to make an argument out of this. What it should matter if was messege beetween varage and me wich was made from a previous agreement.



Now to claim that the cheating is not the issue is completely made out of your ass. It's as absurd that you could justify with it a woman having sex right in her wedding day with the best man as long as it is in the table during the reception while the husband see it crying. And the girl still can shoot between orgasm and orgasm: "Hey babe, it's not cheating couse I am being honest about it".

It's not how gelousy work and it's not how cheating work. If your girlfriend came to you and told you that she just slep with a guy, she never lied at any point and yet every man would be angry, and it's legitime. The liying part you made it out of your ass, literally and completely.

"I woulda tried to turn it into a threesome. If it wasn't my sister of course."

And that's the correct aproach of course.

 

[sixart]

they removed his ability to make an informed decision!

You make it sound like this whole thing is / was part of a masterplan ! Ofc they HAD history but none of them KNEW they would end up together at B&R... Or is another conspiracy blooming on the horizon ?!?

 

[Mr_Mister]

I STILL SAY, that if the game detects a a mod or cheating DPC will create an alternative gay route were you walk into the blue Oyster bar and you´re imediatly sodomized y dozens of burly dudes in a biker parafernalia ...

there is another playthrough where if the game detects a cheat there is a stove electrical problem and the DIK mansion catches on fire with you trapped within it!
you´ll be forced to choose which couple of dik´s you save, Derek and ashley, tommy and rusty, JB and Elena Leon and jamie...

there is another one where the hot house catches on fire and you must jump in and decide wich of the 12 girls you will save and you will only be able to save 1 out of 12!

there is an alternative ending where Bella dies in a car crash speeding to go and save you when you are drunk if the game detects a cheat!

and there is a NTR route where Jill´s drink get roofied and Tybalt rapes Jill on a video call with you if the game detects a cheat!

i forgot the 3 other possible routes if the game detects a mod or a cheat...



magnar; well well well, never a better time for a threesome if there ever was!
Josy: Is there ever a bad time for a threesome?
Maya: you people disgust me, get out you heathens, daddy was right and this world is filled with the unjust and inequitable who have hidden from the light of the lord!
magnar: damm Maya i love your dirty talk it gets me all bothered and sweety!

i think you are wrong, the MC is indeed in love... WITH GETTING THAT TIGHT PUSSEHHH!
actually Queens hardly ever, with very few noticable exceptions! they would just be married off to the new king shoring up the new kings position!

and most kings that die violently tended to die in batle and normally not beheded but hang or quartered of just dieing off in some damp sunless dungeon cell!



i think she is thinking... ok if this shit goes well and we end up celebrating is he gonna ask for the ass? he already gave me two rim jobs and i can only pretend to be naive for so long before he goes in hard... should i admit to know what he is doing? perhaps like that i can use some lube and it will hurt less.... what if this meeting with the Burke´s go wrong? will i be so distraught that i will just ask him to fuck me long and hard in the ass so the pain of my bleak future can be numb? is that why carla back in highschool used to cut herself? to numb the pain of an unknown future?

Inner city white trash junkie family! can easily come from places like Detroit New york Chicago, basically any big metropolis with drugie neighborhood´s!



dude she as already learned of the MC`s magic addictive dick and for someone who has experience with drugs she knows that if she tries it she might get addicted to his dick, so she avoids it because she is self aware that that dick can bring down her walls!

but she uses it ironically! thats more then clear!



dude stop giving my responses away! already had to delete 3 replies on this reply because you answered exactly as i did! stop being annoying and come up with your own answers...



you know i love you but... you are starting to repeat youtself!

yeap latino´s and Jose are having a blast... although she would probably be Maria Jose ... but since in most latin countries every 3rd girl´s name is Maria, Maria can basically stop being used as a 1st name and starts being an adjective for female...

there are hundreds of games here where this is applicable... not on this specific one!

dalli_x got a new theory! the name of the game is DIK the international short name for Denmark is DK... what chances are there that a sweadish is throwing shade the their neighbors the Danes? Being a DIK ? talk about a swede calling out a Dane DK!

I STILL SAY, that if the game detects a a mod or cheating DPC will create an alternative gay route were you walk into the blue Oyster bar and you´re imediatly sodomized y dozens of burly dudes in a biker parafernalia ...

there is another playthrough where if the game detects a cheat there is a stove electrical problem and the DIK mansion catches on fire with you trapped within it!
you´ll be forced to choose which couple of dik´s you save, Derek and ashley, tommy and rusty, JB and Elena Leon and jamie...

there is another one where the hot house catches on fire and you must jump in and decide wich of the 12 girls you will save and you will only be able to save 1 out of 12!

there is an alternative ending where Bella dies in a car crash speeding to go and save you when you are drunk if the game detects a cheat!

and there is a NTR route where Jill´s drink get roofied and Tybalt rapes Jill on a video call with you if the game detects a cheat!

i forgot the 3 other possible routes if the game detects a mod or a cheat...



magnar; well well well, never a better time for a threesome if there ever was!
Josy: Is there ever a bad time for a threesome?
Maya: you people disgust me, get out you heathens, daddy was right and this world is filled with the unjust and inequitable who have hidden from the light of the lord!
magnar: damm Maya i love your dirty talk it gets me all bothered and sweety!

i think you are wrong, the MC is indeed in love... WITH GETTING THAT TIGHT PUSSEHHH!
actually Queens hardly ever, with very few noticable exceptions! they would just be married off to the new king shoring up the new kings position!

and most kings that die violently tended to die in batle and normally not beheded but hang or quartered of just dieing off in some damp sunless dungeon cell!



i think she is thinking... ok if this shit goes well and we end up celebrating is he gonna ask for the ass? he already gave me two rim jobs and i can only pretend to be naive for so long before he goes in hard... should i admit to know what he is doing? perhaps like that i can use some lube and it will hurt less.... what if this meeting with the Burke´s go wrong? will i be so distraught that i will just ask him to fuck me long and hard in the ass so the pain of my bleak future can be numb? is that why carla back in highschool used to cut herself? to numb the pain of an unknown future?

Inner city white trash junkie family! can easily come from places like Detroit New york Chicago, basically any big metropolis with drugie neighborhood´s!



dude she as already learned of the MC`s magic addictive dick and for someone who has experience with drugs she knows that if she tries it she might get addicted to his dick, so she avoids it because she is self aware that that dick can bring down her walls!

but she uses it ironically! thats more then clear!



dude stop giving my responses away! already had to delete 3 replies on this reply because you answered exactly as i did! stop being annoying and come up with your own answers...



you know i love you but... you are starting to repeat youtself!

yeap latino´s and Jose are having a blast... although she would probably be Maria Jose ... but since in most latin countries every 3rd girl´s name is Maria, Maria can basically stop being used as a 1st name and starts being an adjective for female...

there are hundreds of games here where this is applicable... not on this specific one!

dalli_x got a new theory! the name of the game is DIK the international short name for Denmark is DK... what chances are there that a sweadish is throwing shade the their neighbors the Danes? Being a DIK ? talk about a swede calling out a Dane DK!

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[Heycock]

1st yesterday i asked you to stop straw manning me and yet you keep doing it!

if i have enough i share! but that does mean i will be shamed into it like the left retards like to do and then claim that the fruits of my labour are theirs to give! its my labor i dispense it as i see fit!

that i recognize the right of others not to be forced to share against their will does not mean i will act as others will, to understand and compreend does not mean to condone! we had this debate before!

I am not straw manning you, I am saying i find your position horrible. And that's completely true. I sayd I am not going to argue this since is not relevant to the point being made and i will thank you that do not talk about us as left retards, specially when you are talking with me since you know i am a leftist.

cheating is not the issue in regards to the pain caused! its the lie that causes the pain!

And that's made out of your ass.

People has gelousy even when they are not in a relationship and has no string attached at all, and yet you claim there is no pain even when they are in a relationship?

In the example I used, in your replica they had a mutual agreement, the wife broke it, that is the problem. If she was being honest but change their mind at mid time it's not relevant.

Now your life it's far from any conclusive evidence since people usually get out of the norm and you are definetely out of it. However your girlfriend asked not to slept with that woman, couse you sleeping with her would had hurt her, couse the cheating is the problem. If you were honest with her and sayd to her, i would gonna fuck anyway, that would be a problem in the relationship, that's why you lied in the first place and sayd you would not. That's why people lied, to avoid concecuences, and thoose concecuences are held for the cheating, therefore the cheating is the problem.

If the cheating will not be a problem and if it were something normal and acceptable, like i dont know going to the groceries... people would not lie couse they dont have reasons to do. If someone lie to you about something you don't care, you don't care about the lie neither or just marginally, has not the same impact. Like if your girlfriend told you she was going to groceries but was actually in the cinema seeing kids movie and lie couse she felt ashame. You would not feel betrayed and angry, you will laugh at her for being chidlish. It's the gravity of the act you are being lie wich makes the gravity of the action, the lie itself is just marginal.