adamg0010

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Hey guys i have the game till 6.1 can someone provide me a link for the new Chapters or do i need to redownload the 20 gigs?
 

fool1200

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Not having a single source of income is never the right idea. She is apparently in this situation because of that and just doing what she is told. Someone said that Derek automatically has more freedom in the family because he is a male but I don't think that is the case. Being who he is it's more likely that he just says fuck it and doesn't put up with it.

You would think that most people in that situation would be talking to the administration or something about her options. She is a co-signer on that contract, not an unwilling reciprocate, she has more say in it than she thinks. On a side note, if she is this naive and so easily manipulated then she doesn't really have any place in a social field. Especially if she would be giving advice to people that need help.
Derek doesn't have a job, does he? (He volunteered for some time but that does not give him money personally.) The dad gives Derek more freedom because he is not a homosexual (and maybe because Derek is male), it's just that simple.

And yeah, not talking to administration is dumb, but it's not Maya who's dumb, it's DPC's shitty writing. If one person tries to solve a problem on limited time on her own and fail to see a simple solution, we can chalk that up to dumb. If many people are collectively solving a problem on extended amount of time and no one sees the simple solution, it's shitty writing.
 
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Skeltom

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I've tried looking through this forum and steam forums but cant seem to find an answer so figured I just ask if someone could help me with this error I get upon trying to start the game.
I've never played this before so I have no save files or anything. Im trying to run the 0.8.2 full game for s1-s-2.
The season 3 interlude seems to start up fine but i cant even play it without a previous save so idk what to do, any help or point in the right direction is appreciated.

I'm sorry, but an uncaught exception occurred.

Before loading the script.
error: Error -5 while decompressing data: incomplete or truncated stream

-- Full Traceback ------------------------------------------------------------

Full traceback:
File "renpy/bootstrap.py", line 331, in bootstrap
renpy.main.main()
File "renpy/main.py", line 417, in main
renpy.loader.index_archives()
File "renpy/loader.py", line 244, in index_archives
index = handler.read_index(f)
File "renpy/loader.py", line 129, in read_index
index = loads(zlib.decompress(infile.read()))
error: Error -5 while decompressing data: incomplete or truncated stream
That is a decompression error. It looks like you are either trying to run it from inside the compressed archive or the program you used to extract it did do the job correctly. I don't know what platform you are on but 7zip has never given me any problems.
 
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Derek doesn't have a job, does he? (He volunteered for some time but that does not give him money personally.) The dad gives Derek more freedom because he is not a homosexual (and maybe because Derek is male), it's just that simple.

And yeah, not talking to administration is dumb, but it's not Maya who's dumb, it's DPC's shitty writing. If one person tries to solve a problem on limited time on her own and fail to see a simple solution, we can chalk that up to dumb. If many people are collectively solving a problem on extended amount of time and no one sees the simple solution, it's shitty writing.
What some people seem to keep forgetting is that the time passed within the story is currently quite short; and most of the characters haven’t known about Maya’s problems for very long.

The mc's only known Maya for about 2 months, since they've only just sat their midterms, and he's only known about her dad's black mail for about half that time.

Since he's known, the mc has also been dealing with heaps of other shit, and hardly spent much time considering Maya's predicament (a huge amount of his time has been dealing with his own issues, like repairing the mansion and fucking as many girls as he can :sneaky:).

Derek has known the longest, but he's not exactly reliable; he's definitely not someone we'd expect to be dispersing sound financial advice. :rolleyes:

I'm not sure how long Josy's known about the blackmail for, but she's even complained that Maya isn't trying to solve her own problems. They've been fighting and bitching with each other half the time.

So even though we, the readers, have had ages to discuss the issue, the characters in the story have not.

To make matters worse, Maya had dreamed up her hairbrained scheme of joining the HOTs and having them pay for her tuition, so she put all her eggs into that basket, only to have it fall through. By then she'd pretty much wasted the first month of college without even considering other avenues for solving her situation.

Then after sulking and wasting more time, Maya is now relying on Sage trying to help her.

I wouldn't call this bad writing, I'd say it is Maya's fault for being dumb (she was deliberately written that way). She's been called out for it by Josy:
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And the mc's had a go at her for constantly dramatizing it all:
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If anything, DPC has managed to characterise most of the prominent characters quite well. They have a few inconsistencies (proving they're not just computer programs... well actually... they are :p), but on a whole each character is defined well enough that we come to expect certain behaviour from them.

So it's not shitty writing that in the stretch of roughly a couple of months, a handful of characters, who have been dealing with numerous distractions, haven't come to the rescue and solved all of Maya's problems yet.

Personally I find it quit perplexing that anyone can work their way through this game, pay full attention to everything it has to offer, and turn around and suggest the game has shitty writing.

Of course the game isn't perfect, but the detail, foreshadowing, dialogue, and direction are so far above most of the competitors here, I wonder where these critics are getting their reference for what good AVN writing is. :unsure:
 

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That is a decompression error. It looks like you are either trying to run it from inside the compressed archive or the program you used to extract it did do the job correctly. I don't know what platform you are on but 7zip has never given me any problems.
I tried with 7-zip and it worked, thank you
 
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What some people seem to keep forgetting is that the time passed within the story is currently quite short; and most of the characters haven’t known about Maya’s problems for very long.

The mc's only known Maya for about 2 months, since they've only just sat their midterms, and he's only known about her dad's black mail for about half that time.

Since he's known, the mc has also been dealing with heaps of other shit, and hardly spent much time considering Maya's predicament (a huge amount of his time has been dealing with his own issues, like repairing the mansion and fucking as many girls as he can :sneaky:).

Derek has known the longest, but he's not exactly reliable; he's definitely not someone we'd expect to be dispersing sound financial advice. :rolleyes:

I'm not sure how long Josy's known about the blackmail for, but she's even complained that Maya isn't trying to solve her own problems. They've been fighting and bitching with each other half the time.

So even though we, the readers, have had ages to discuss the issue, the characters in the story have not.

To make matters worse, Maya had dreamed up her hairbrained scheme of joining the HOTs and having them pay for her tuition, so she put all her eggs into that basket, only to have it fall through. By then she'd pretty much wasted the first month of college without even considering other avenues for solving her situation.

Then after sulking and wasting more time, Maya is now relying on Sage trying to help her.

I wouldn't call this bad writing, I'd say it is Maya's fault for being dumb (she was deliberately written that way). She's been called out for it by Josy:
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And the mc's had a go at her for constantly dramatizing it all:
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If anything, DPC has managed to characterise most of the prominent characters quite well. They have a few inconsistencies (proving they're not just computer programs... well actually... they are :p), but on a whole each character is defined well enough that we come to expect certain behaviour from them.

So it's not shitty writing that in the stretch of roughly a couple of months, a handful of characters, who have been dealing with numerous distractions, haven't come to the rescue and solved all of Maya's problems yet.

Personally I find it quit perplexing that anyone can work their way through this game, pay full attention to everything it has to offer, and turn around and suggest the game has shitty writing.

Of course the game isn't perfect, but the detail, foreshadowing, dialogue, and direction are so far above most of the competitors here, I wonder where these critics are getting their reference for what good AVN writing is. :unsure:
Look, you can keep defending DPC, but the crux of the matter is that 4 people (MC Maya Josy Sage), some of who (Sage) is proclaimed to be smart by someone who looks smart (Bella), have spent considerable amount of time trying to solve a problem, and no one even suggested that Maya go talk to the school financial office to understand her situation, before going to Sage's parents and asking them to cough up tens of thousands of dollars.

They don't need to solve the problem for her in that time frame. But if no one suggests during the entire month (per your timeframe above) that she should do the painfully obvious thing that can help, that's shitty writing.

On my "bad writing" critique, that really comes from two angles - one is that if the writing of the work is okay to good elsewhere, then the shitty part becomes obvious. I assume you can tell the potato is overcooked even if the steak is done right. Second, there are many, many, many AVNs that have great writing. Many of them are translated from Japanese - Ever 17, Baldr Sky, etc. (Japan has had an active AVN industry for 40 years) but even some on this site is pretty good, like Good Girl Gone Bad. That game is quite lacking in the graphic department, but the writing/branching/mechanics/player freedom is very advanced.
 

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What some people seem to keep forgetting is that the time passed within the story is currently quite short; and most of the characters haven’t known about Maya’s problems for very long.

The mc's only known Maya for about 2 months, since they've only just sat their midterms, and he's only known about her dad's black mail for about half that time.

Since he's known, the mc has also been dealing with heaps of other shit, and hardly spent much time considering Maya's predicament (a huge amount of his time has been dealing with his own issues, like repairing the mansion and fucking as many girls as he can :sneaky:).

Derek has known the longest, but he's not exactly reliable; he's definitely not someone we'd expect to be dispersing sound financial advice. :rolleyes:

I'm not sure how long Josy's known about the blackmail for, but she's even complained that Maya isn't trying to solve her own problems. They've been fighting and bitching with each other half the time.

So even though we, the readers, have had ages to discuss the issue, the characters in the story have not.

To make matters worse, Maya had dreamed up her hairbrained scheme of joining the HOTs and having them pay for her tuition, so she put all her eggs into that basket, only to have it fall through. By then she'd pretty much wasted the first month of college without even considering other avenues for solving her situation.

Then after sulking and wasting more time, Maya is now relying on Sage trying to help her.

I wouldn't call this bad writing, I'd say it is Maya's fault for being dumb (she was deliberately written that way). She's been called out for it by Josy:
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And the mc's had a go at her for constantly dramatizing it all:
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If anything, DPC has managed to characterise most of the prominent characters quite well. They have a few inconsistencies (proving they're not just computer programs... well actually... they are :p), but on a whole each character is defined well enough that we come to expect certain behaviour from them.

So it's not shitty writing that in the stretch of roughly a couple of months, a handful of characters, who have been dealing with numerous distractions, haven't come to the rescue and solved all of Maya's problems yet.

Personally I find it quit perplexing that anyone can work their way through this game, pay full attention to everything it has to offer, and turn around and suggest the game has shitty writing.

Of course the game isn't perfect, but the detail, foreshadowing, dialogue, and direction are so far above most of the competitors here, I wonder where these critics are getting their reference for what good AVN writing is. :unsure:
I absolutely agree with you, my friend.
I feel alive the character when his flaws and vices are revealed, and not when exclusively positive qualities are shown. Most of the games on this site suffer from this. In them, the girls look like dolls created by the lustful and immature mind of the developer, and not like people who can make mistakes.
Yes, Maya is fool and egoist, but she is a living person. She is not a perfect girl, like all the people around her.
Sage is hot-tempered and jealous.
Jill is just a bitch and a jealous bitch.:devilish:
Josie - she doesn't seem to have any bad qualitieso_O
Bella is cold and distant.
The more negative qualities a hero has, the more alive and realistic he seems.
Apparently this is the reason for Quinn's popularity. She is contradictory, but she looks like a person you can meet in real life.
 

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Look, you can keep defending DPC, but the crux of the matter is that 4 people (MC Maya Josy Sage), some of who (Sage) is proclaimed to be smart by someone who looks smart (Bella), have spent considerable amount of time trying to solve a problem, and no one even suggested that Maya go talk to the school financial office to understand her situation, before going to Sage's parents and asking them to cough up tens of thousands of dollars.

They don't need to solve the problem for her in that time frame. But if no one suggests during the entire month (per your timeframe above) that she should do the painfully obvious thing that can help, that's shitty writing.
I dont even now how you managed, but the entire Sage storyline of Ep08 is about her JUST finding out, how the fuck does that translate to a "considerable amount of time" ?

Maya says to the MC that she has not had any experience with financial matters her entire life and the MC says he doesnt know either. They're 18 year old kids.

And I have no idea how the "school financial office" is gonna help her ? What is there to understand, Maya told the MC that her problem is at the bank level, not the school level, so what are they gonna do ? I don't even see any world where they would care, they're getting paid, they wont give a frigg about Maya's family problems.

And Maya didnt come up with the plan to go to Sage's parents, she even refused to tell Sage about her problems to begin with. It's Sage, after beeing persistent, to finally learn about Maya's problem and then SAGE decides that thats what she wants to pursue.

Look, you can keep criticizing DPC's writing, but you should have at least a rough idea what he actually wrote before you do so and then come up with sound solutions not stuff that would actually make the writing worse.
 

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On a side note, if she is this naive and so easily manipulated then she doesn't really have any place in a social field. Especially if she would be giving advice to people that need help.
That's a real narrow view on what the social field actually is. There's social work involving care for people from birth till death.
There's a rather large spectrum of services offered by social workers, often just very basic like communal centers or daycare but also more specialised like debt management or therapy. The people getting help from social workers can be any age, can be disabled or not, (chronically) sick or healthy, can be from any social background and educational level.

If you're easily manipulated it might not be a good plan to work with addicts, but naive or not really doesn't matter, you'll be streetwise in really zero time, there's no cure for stupid, but naive just gets washed away with experience.
If you lack skills to work with a certain group or activity find another that does match your skillset. Personally i can tell you it's more about the organisation you're working for, any good organisation places it's employees at the right spots and will support them to perform to the best of their abilities. The most important thing though is you can't learn social work from books alone.
 
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shazba TimHawk and others defending DPC's "writing".

DPC's writing is not good. I am giving you that straight up. He gives it to you straight up that his writing is his weak point in interviews with him. He can not follow logic/tell his tale to save his life. His story AL was terrible except for the wingman, and his story here is laughable except for the wingman. His MC's are particularly unlikable, and yes, his writing of Maya and her situation is completely stupid. This is supposed to be an American college. In all American colleges that are not rip off's like say tRump university, there are ways for students to get financial assistance if they are in need. Maya's "bank" problem is a money problem. The college financial folks can assist her in finding alternate means of funding her education with, or without her father.

DPC is a master at his renders, animations, and picking music that fits his art. He pretty well sucks at writing a coherent story.
Peace
 

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shazba TimHawk and others defending DPC's "writing".

DPC's writing is not good. I am giving you that straight up. He gives it to you straight up that his writing is his weak point in interviews with him. He can not follow logic/tell his tale to save his life. His story AL was terrible except for the wingman, and his story here is laughable except for the wingman. His MC's are particularly unlikable, and yes, his writing of Maya and her situation is completely stupid. This is supposed to be an American college. In all American colleges that are not rip off's like say tRump university, there are ways for students to get financial assistance if they are in need. Maya's "bank" problem is a money problem. The college financial folks can assist her in finding alternate means of funding her education with, or without her father.

DPC is a master at his renders, animations, and picking music that fits his art. He pretty well sucks at writing a coherent story.
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Never said his writing is good, I said that the person who I replied to before, got it wrong. And yes there is a financial aid office at every College, and not a single one of them will care, if a student already has a full ride student loan. To qualify for financial aid, certain conditions have to be met, and Maya doesnt tick a single box.
 
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Never said his writing is good, I said that the person who I replied to before, got it wrong. And yes there is a financial aid office at every College, and not a single one of them will care, if a student already has a full ride student loan. To qualify for financial aid, certain conditions have to be met, and Maya doesnt tick a single box.
She does if her daddy isn't paying.
She needs funding for college. Whether it is spending money or dorm/tuition money, the girl needs money. At a minimum the college will have resources to assist students in finding jobs. Whether those are workstudy type jobs does require financial aid evaluations being performed. If her father is being a douche, this won't qualify her for much of course, but they would still help her find a non hoe job.
 

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What some people seem to keep forgetting is that the time passed within the story is currently quite short; and most of the characters haven’t known about Maya’s problems for very long.

The mc's only known Maya for about 2 months, since they've only just sat their midterms, and he's only known about her dad's black mail for about half that time.

Since he's known, the mc has also been dealing with heaps of other shit, and hardly spent much time considering Maya's predicament (a huge amount of his time has been dealing with his own issues, like repairing the mansion and fucking as many girls as he can :sneaky:).

Derek has known the longest, but he's not exactly reliable; he's definitely not someone we'd expect to be dispersing sound financial advice. :rolleyes:

I'm not sure how long Josy's known about the blackmail for, but she's even complained that Maya isn't trying to solve her own problems. They've been fighting and bitching with each other half the time.

So even though we, the readers, have had ages to discuss the issue, the characters in the story have not.

To make matters worse, Maya had dreamed up her hairbrained scheme of joining the HOTs and having them pay for her tuition, so she put all her eggs into that basket, only to have it fall through. By then she'd pretty much wasted the first month of college without even considering other avenues for solving her situation.

Then after sulking and wasting more time, Maya is now relying on Sage trying to help her.

I wouldn't call this bad writing, I'd say it is Maya's fault for being dumb (she was deliberately written that way). She's been called out for it by Josy:
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And the mc's had a go at her for constantly dramatizing it all:
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If anything, DPC has managed to characterise most of the prominent characters quite well. They have a few inconsistencies (proving they're not just computer programs... well actually... they are :p), but on a whole each character is defined well enough that we come to expect certain behaviour from them.

So it's not shitty writing that in the stretch of roughly a couple of months, a handful of characters, who have been dealing with numerous distractions, haven't come to the rescue and solved all of Maya's problems yet.

Personally I find it quit perplexing that anyone can work their way through this game, pay full attention to everything it has to offer, and turn around and suggest the game has shitty writing.

Of course the game isn't perfect, but the detail, foreshadowing, dialogue, and direction are so far above most of the competitors here, I wonder where these critics are getting their reference for what good AVN writing is. :unsure:
This is gonna come out of blue i know but i can't believe both Maya and Sage are taller than MC
 
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She does if her daddy isn't paying.
She needs funding for college. Whether it is spending money or dorm/tuition money, the girl needs money. At a minimum the college will have resources to assist students in finding jobs. Whether those are workstudy type jobs does require financial aid evaluations being performed. If her father is being a douche, this won't qualify her for much of course, but they would still help her find a non hoe job.
But he IS paying, thats what everyone seems to confuse. You're a lawyer, Maya was 18 and signed co-ownership of her loan to her dad, now i critisized that many times, because thats not how it work. but from the College perspective, everything is dandy.
 
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Well, lets be fair, would you rather play a game that's mostly about the legal correctness of contracts, financial aid options for the educational system, unavailable LI's because they're working 24/7 to support themselves, but has good writing by those standards although there's really nothing happening....

Or do you want to play BaDik or whatever other game that has an interesting story?
I dunno, sometimes you should really just accept some parts of the story are not exactly 100% real life proof, in BaDik this mostly happens for story reasons, so i don't see any problems....
 
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