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Olsens.M

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No one is crying here. Most of the active users here are in favor of a realistic representation of relationships in the game. But, unfortunately, the snowflakes of discord are against it.
They are so against that the player who is on the path of Josie and Maya's friendship has not seen their lesbian sex.
Sage hasn't fucked Chad probably since the beginning of their relationship.
Jill is a virgin.
Bella hasn't fucked in the last three years.
Maya is a virgin.
Josie probably only had one drunken sex at school, but was a lesbian most of the time.
Quinn has never sucked a man's cock (because Tremolo is special). Rio said that she had never cummed and probably would cum for the first time from a Tremolo dick. Camilla thinks that MC is incredibly hot. Probably for other girls, MC is also special, despite the fact that it's just sex.
True. Unfortunatelly life happens and girls want dicks as much as we want pussies or vice-versa. SO there is no reason to feel bad for knowing or seeing a girl you are not with fucking someone else. Even the day we all went to pink rose's club, all girls didn't fuck or sat in anyone else's dick. Weird as f.
 

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I am pretty sure the reason why I didn't fuck her yet (with John watching or not) or even was involved in a 3 some with her and John boy with us both fucking her is because of some annoying people who are afraid of other people's dicks.
I wouldn't mind even if someday I'd get into the hot's house and found Riona or Quinn fucking someone else. it is not like I am in a serious relationship with any of them.
Yes, I'm talking about primarily the designated LIs in the game. The farther down the list you go in terms of secondary and tertiary characters, the less of an issue if they have a suitor other than MC. My rule has always been, if I'm not actively pursuing a character then I don't bother about what they get up to. If they are my active target then no challengers will be tolerated.
 

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To this day, that night still remains the best moment of the trouple
True, but is also true that there isn't to many trouple moments after that, sadly

I can't be the only one that think this one is one of if not the top song in the game, right?

No, i love this song. Suits for Bella and MC but make me always think in my fav girls too (because i'm crazy by them).

Snowflakes see this scene and think "what a slut, i'll never wanna see her again!". I see and only think "now is my time. Wait for me naughty goth girl".

Everytime I look at the last messages here people are always being annoying. Bad talking zoey and talking about NTR. Guys want to have all the girls for themselves, build an harem, but want girls to not fuck anyone else. lol. I mean, only because you enjoy living on your fantasy world doesn't mean everyone else does. If someday DPC writes that my girl Arieth is fucking other dudes, it is just how it is, specially if I am not on her path. She has to fuck too, why do I care? I am not playing a Saint game.

My LI Quinn, can fuck whoever she wants if she doesn't have a serious relationship with me or isn't in love with me.
Zoey is a must to have character on the next updates because she will become my MAIN LI once she arrives.
I have been waiting for a girl to fill in the spot of Main LI and she is the perfect girl. SHe is part of the story since episode 2, I loved to get to know her, and as my first love, she has everything I want in a main LI. DPC couldn't have wrote her better. SHe is just perfect.

SO stop crying about whatever he writes or will write in the future because there are a lot of people who is loving it.
Don't skip the great posts of people sharing their fav songs here, brother!
 

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True. Unfortunatelly life happens and girls want dicks as much as we want pussies or vice-versa. SO there is no reason to feel bad for knowing or seeing a girl you are not with fucking someone else. Even the day we all went to pink rose's club, all girls didn't fuck or sat in anyone else's dick. Weird as f.

You are right, but then you run into the argument that is wasted development time and resources for scenes with the LI that they already didn't care and rejected. You can't win against this types of people, they are many and loud. In my opinion this is one of the reasons, even if minor, that is holding VN stories in mediocrity and roll your eyes territory, because any attempt at immersion and increased realism is butting heads with fetishes and their unhinged activists.

As long as no big time dev decides to say fuck it and push the limit and then maybe more will follow, you will always run into nonsensical situations like 'virgin prostitutes'.
 
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Yes, I'm talking about primarily the designated LIs in the game. The farther down the list you go in terms of secondary and tertiary characters, the less of an issue if they have a suitor other than MC. My rule has always been, if I'm not actively pursuing a character then I don't bother about what they get up to. If they are my active target then no challengers will be tolerated.
And this, Ladies and Gentlemen, is pretty much what NTR is about. It is NOT about side meat getting plowed. Who cares about them?!
I got facepalmed on a Non NTR thread for saying that, but for fuck's sake, who cares if a girl you never looked at is getting bukkake, I mean really........ no seriously...... of course if you were dating her it would be bad.... and if you splattered her, that doesn't qualify as being an active love interest,,,, so yeah....
Peace
 
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If, you wrote 1000 posts in this thread alone, congratulations, you not are not only an specialist, but you also has your own book (or many actually) written on the subject.
If only there was a way I could turn it into money.
so, can we name dalli_x the dean of B&R?
No, Dalli focuses primarily on wild fan-fiction unlikely scenarios. Professor of creative writing, though? Almost certainly.
Of course, Pink will avoid NTR from other girls as much as he can. My main theory is that we will have a lesbian ending of the former main girls or they will remain single until the end of the game (but perhaps in the epilogue it will be mentioned that they have a husband/ children).
I think, depending on MC's discussion with her, there's a great likelihood she'll wind up dating Rusty again.
Liam to score with Rena has to obtain an indirect and after a direct permission....

Otherwise Rena will disappear...
That's true, but then he gets the hot doctor/nurse instead. I imagine there's a number of alternative characters in this game that could line up with others, if they aren't involved with the MC. I wonder if Bella has met Stanley yet. Maya/Josy don't really need anybody else, so they're covered. Jill with Rusty is a solid fit. Sage is a bit less certain, but she's ready to graduate, so maybe she'll have a last fling with Jacob before she moves on.
 

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I think, depending on MC's discussion with her, there's a great likelihood she'll wind up dating Rusty again.
Yes. There are several interactions between Rusty and Jill in the game, so probably at some stage they will really start dating. The same goes for Sage and Chad. It seems to me that the truth about Chad has much longer-term consequences. After all, the relationship between Troy and Miracle is not so strong. I do not rule out that Chad may meet Sage again after he admits that he is gay.
 

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Are you familiar with DPC`s previous work? Short answer: Liam/Rena.
The relationship between Rena and the main character's sidekick, Liam, is a game ending that has been driven by the player's dedicated choices; the player acts as a matchmaker during the story.

I was talking about an indirect consequence on which the player has no control once he has made the choice not to engage with a love interest. This results in being trapped in an unanticipated and uncomfortable situation. I would be pleasantly surprised to be proven wrong when the first effects of the commitment will be experienced. Maybe Jill will eventually succumb to Tybalt's charm. Maybe Sage will agree to a three-way relationship with Chad and Troy. And maybe Bella will find in Derek the perfect partner.
 
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Walter Victor

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If I remember correctly, Maya said during a date with Josie that the Tremolo room works magic and wonderful things happen to them. I thought she was talking about cleaning when they were having fun together. It's strange that she remembers what the Tremolo room looked like in the past.
:ROFLMAO: Really! I think anyone who stepped into that room even momentarily would have it fixed in their memory. One doesn't often get to observe a shambles of such epic proportions. It's like observing a total eclipse of the sun. You just don't forget things like that.
 

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No one is crying here. Most of the active users here are in favor of a realistic representation of relationships in the game. But, unfortunately, the snowflakes of discord are against it.
They are so against that the player who is on the path of Josie and Maya's friendship has not seen their lesbian sex.
Sage hasn't fucked Chad probably since the beginning of their relationship.
Jill is a virgin.
Bella hasn't fucked in the last three years.
Maya is a virgin.
Josie probably only had one drunken sex at school, but was a lesbian most of the time.
Quinn has never sucked a man's cock (because Tremolo is special). Rio said that she had never cummed and probably would cum for the first time from a Tremolo dick. Camilla thinks that MC is incredibly hot. Probably for other girls, MC is also special, despite the fact that it's just sex.

This is why I am in favour of NTR. As much as I find him hot, everyone treats him like a Greek God on campus. He's turning lesbians back. It's not realistic. MC could use a little healthy competition.
 

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If only there was a way I could turn it into money.
No, Dalli focuses primarily on wild fan-fiction unlikely scenarios. Professor of creative writing, though? Almost certainly.
I think, depending on MC's discussion with her, there's a great likelihood she'll wind up dating Rusty again.
That's true, but then he gets the hot doctor/nurse instead. I imagine there's a number of alternative characters in this game that could line up with others, if they aren't involved with the MC. I wonder if Bella has met Stanley yet. Maya/Josy don't really need anybody else, so they're covered. Jill with Rusty is a solid fit. Sage is a bit less certain, but she's ready to graduate, so maybe she'll have a last fling with Jacob before she moves on.
okay, but with the nurse MC almost doesn't interact normally, she is worth as much as the party girl with the colored hair, she at the end of BADIK may as well marry Derek...

I hope that at least Maya and Josy can continue their story in the case, but even on them I would not bet much money

in the end MC is dating girls no one is interested in (except the Burke family... :ROFLMAO: )
 

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This is why I am in favour of NTR. As much as I find him hot, everyone treats him like a Greek God on campus. He's turning lesbians back. It's not realistic. MC could use a little healthy competition.
MC is classic Marty Sue. I would call him James Bond from the AVN world. After all, this game is compensation for what the players don't have in real life (basically, maybe one of the players, like Tremolo, fucks three chicks a night).The player wants to try himself the most desirable, the sexiest, the most beloved.
But on the other hand, he really lacks an opponent. Chad and Troy gave a little rivalry, but they were quickly exposed. Chad is just gay, which sounds like a joke, and Tybalt is just a clown. The new rivalry is apparently a rivalry between Tommy and MC for informal leadership.
 

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True, but is also true that there isn't to many trouple moments after that, sadly
practically no one:(

the last leg of the scavenger hunt, which was a very good rehearsal but not very spontaneous and then the sadness and desolation moment in the pool party:oops:

aside from these there were some excellent individual moments where the trouple is in fact a problem.
 

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I'd really like to see the mechanics of cheating in the new episode. So that the player can really change the selected LI with another LI. It's just such a scope for the classic drama of сheating. There is MC suffers, hides from his girlfriend and fucks in secret from her.
And then she finds out about it and hangs herself under his window. :HideThePain:
 

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This is why I am in favour of NTR. As much as I find him hot, everyone treats him like a Greek God on campus. He's turning lesbians back. It's not realistic. MC could use a little healthy competition.
I feel like part of why all the girls want MC is because he's fresh meat to fuck and having meat his size helps. Mc doesn't have much competition with the girls because most of the guys are pretty lame to me any way but Rusty, Derek, John boy, Jacob there cool. When it comes out about MC relationship with Josy and Maya for those on there path the man the myth the legend that is MC will only get bigger and the new diks challenge will be to turn a lesbian
 

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Sarah, Mel, Camila and Riona are literally prostitutes. Doesn't that embarrass you/patrons? If it wasn't shown graphically, then it didn't happen? :Kappa:
Did someone revolt? I don't think so, it's so stupid.

Are you familiar with DPC`s previous work? Short answer: Liam/Rena.
I imagine that many people primarily care about what they see on screen yes, and ignore text. Just think about how touchy things are in tv and movies compared to books. Things can be described and told in text that couldnt and never would be allowed to be on screen. Also think of all the people that ask whats happening all the time because they actually dont comprehend whats being said on screen because they dont really pay attention.:rolleyes:

Personally I care who people fall in love with or fuck in the story as long as it makes sense or is in character. Zoey is a great character to me and and i like her over a couple LIs and most of the sidegirls, i think she definitely should have hooked up with someone while away and have stated so in posts here in the past. That emotional awakening she had about the Fuckface seemed only 90% there but still it was still genuine and compelling enough with that amount of the backstory we got to read and see i can look past this. In my headcannon she fucked someone and got a deeper perspective, we just wasnt shown it or told it, just like how Mel, Sarah, Rio etc is fucking people without us being really told nor shown. They are only prostitutes in name atm, just a throwaway line like "paying for themselves now" and the rest asking for money from Fuckface and we can infer whats happening. Side note: The girl getting double railed at the dorm party is a fresh reminder of what we might get to see soon. Unless that made enough patrons unsettled as they couldnt tell themselves some convenient lie and DPC shies away from it, im 100% sure he tested the waters a bit with that quick scene. I welcome this development. The Vixens will be interesting if it was one of them.


You completely forgot that in AL, the entire reason MC was initially single was a cheating ex-gf didn't you? There was even dialogs in which she shouted at MC that cheating was intended to light a fire under MC. So while it was not a graphic on-screen cheating, it's definitely in at least one of his stories.
Decent writing there. More of that please. Drama woo! Let the fragile egos face the burn of reality. :KEK:
Then again, fragile egos have deep pockets and their vanilla fantasy can be enjoyed by everyone while the reverse is not the case. :coffee:

I think most people don't understand what exactly the NTR/cuckold genre is. Zoe and MC are not a couple at the time of the events of the game and they have no obligations to each other.
I see that in the games of the DPC there is not even a hint of female cheating in relation to the MC, for him this is a taboo.
And yet it would not be a cheating
The only thing ive learned is that there is only on truly universal part of NTR. Its that you are supposed to have an emotional attachment of the characters and that there is a betrayal. That the story sets up a person you are supposed to either empathize with or self insert as and that character getting betrayed by a love interest or emotionally important character. It common that there is a couple but there need to be no actual couple involvement at all as I recall of the examples I saw.

I only know of NTR from the outside (personally to me its cheating or pointless setup) first theres just about no universally accepted definition since fetishes are about as different as the amount of people there are and this one is based on feelings, if you dont feel it there is no NTR. The shouting matches ive seen in irc channels and forums over which stories are NTR or not and which artists actually does NTR or just standard cheating were pretty bad, its fascinating reading though if people do it well.

Because NTR is not only about couples, since there is parental incestuous NTR too. I dont care to remember all the different examples but one prominent one was mother/son incest NTR where you are supposed to feel with the son whose mother is being ravaged by the bully/teacher/coach/whatever and betrays the attachment and chooses the dick over parental duties) or the standard loving and hardworking wife/husband (or gf/bf) couple cuck NTR where a boss, coworker or close friend fucks the girl and she loves it etc. This is either the hottest thing ever or absolutely horrible.

Or doesnt really make sense to the average person hence why NTR is so hotly debated and have split reactions to.

The types of examples were staggering as I recall. A third NTR example i remembered a the end of typing this shit up: Classmates, male person dreams of the prettiest girl in class and its all daydreaming while never approaching as he is working up the currage to ask her out. All the while the girl likes him back but is too shy to act on it, while getting her brains fucked out by another male classmate/bully/teacher whatever due to awakened horniness and fear of being thought a slut or something else dumb. Typical Japan.

Anyway. So many people say they are the only one who can spot NTR (because only specific kinds or scenarios are hot to them) but if you really try to break it down into something universal and differentiate it from standard cheating and cuckhold the only thing left is the intended attachment and emotional betrayal.

I wish I could recall more about the threads I read where people were trying to pin NTR down, so many hentai arists names were thrown around and different works and used to "prove" that their own interpretation was the only correct one. Hell not even the non consensual aspect of NTR thats part of almost all works could be kept (the women usually dont want the sex at first but succumbs to the pleasure and wants it after and this supposedly makes the NTR better because its a "worse" betrayal somehow). Again for heavy emphasis Typical fucking Japan and their purity bullshit.

To circle back, I imagine that loads of patrons think of themselves as Fuckface (a type of emotional attachment) and most of the women in the story show interest in Fuckface(the player) so the Fuckface(the player) engage and they reciprocate. Any sexual act of the women in the story after that happens with another male therefor becomes an act of betrayal (mc/player loves or likes girl -> girl does so back yet still fucks another person and you have emotional betrayal). Pretty standard I should think, the instory setups or couples/not couples etc dont matter an iota.

To me this is borderline insanity yet at the same time its not. It have taken me a long time to understand that to many people there is actually a difference and a meaning to this NTR fetish. I have never thought of myself as the character or experienced this attachment needed in story or text. To me its mostly all just standard cheating or convoluted story setup that doesn't matter.
 
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Walter Victor

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The only thing ive learned is that there is only on truly universal part of NTR. Its that you are supposed to have an emotional attachment of the characters and that there is a betrayal. That the story sets up a person you are supposed to either empathize with or self insert as and that character getting betrayed by a love interest or emotionally important character. It common that there is a couple but there need to be no actual couple involvement at all as I recall of the examples I saw.

I only know of NTR from the outside (personally to me its cheating or pointless setup) first theres just about no universally accepted definition since fetishes are about as different as the amount of people there are and this one is based on feelings, if you dont feel it there is no NTR. The shouting matches ive seen in irc channels and forums over which stories are NTR or not and which artists actually does NTR or just standard cheating were pretty bad, its fascinating reading though if people do it well.

Because NTR is not only about couples, since there is parental incestuous NTR too. I dont care to remember all the different examples but one prominent one was mother/son incest NTR where you are supposed to feel with the son whose mother is being ravaged by the bully/teacher/coach/whatever and betrays the attachment and chooses the dick over parental duties) or the standard loving and hardworking wife/husband (or gf/bf) couple cuck NTR where a boss, coworker or close friend fucks the girl and she loves it etc. This is either the hottest thing ever or absolutely horrible.

Or doesnt really make sense to the average person hence why NTR is so hotly debated and have split reactions to.

The types of examples were staggering as I recall. A third NTR example i remembered a the end of typing this shit up: Classmates, male person dreams of the prettiest girl in class and its all daydreaming while never approaching as he is working up the currage to ask her out. All the while the girl likes him back but is too shy to act on it, while getting her brains fucked out by another male classmate/bully/teacher whatever due to awakened horniness and fear of being thought a slut or something else dumb. Typical Japan.

Anyway. So many people say they are the only one who can spot NTR (because only specific kinds or scenarios are hot to them) but if you really try to break it down into something universal and differentiate it from standard cheating and cuckhold the only thing left is the intended attachment and emotional betrayal.

I wish I could recall more about the threads I read where people were trying to pin NTR down, so many hentai arists names were thrown around and different works and used to "prove" that their own interpretation was the only correct one. Hell not even the non consensual aspect of NTR thats part of almost all works could be kept (the women usually dont want the sex at first but succumbs to the pleasure and wants it after and this supposedly makes the NTR better because its a "worse" betrayal somehow). Again for heavy emphasis Typical fucking Japan and their purity bullshit.

To circle back, I imagine that loads of patrons think of themselves as Fuckface (a type of emotional attachment) and most of the women in the story show interest in Fuckface(the player) so the Fuckface(the player) engage and they reciprocate. Any sexual act of the women in the story after that happens with another male therefor becomes an act of betrayal (mc/player loves or likes girl -> girl does so back yet still fucks another person and you have emotional betrayal). Pretty standard I should think, the instory setups or couples/not couples etc dont matter an iota.

To me this is borderline insanity yet at the same time its not. It have taken me a long time to understand that to many people there is actually a difference and a meaning to this NTR fetish. I have never thought of myself as the character or experienced this attachment needed in story or text. To me its mostly all just standard cheating or convoluted story setup that doesn't matter.



I imagine that many people primarily care about what they see on screen yes, and ignore text. Just think about how touchy things are in tv and movies compared to books. Things can be described and told in text that couldnt and never would be allowed to be on screen. Also think of all the people that ask whats happening all the time because they actually dont comprehend whats being said on screen because they dont really pay attention.:rolleyes:

Personally I care who people fall in love with or fuck in the story as long as it makes sense or is in character. Zoey is a great character to me and and i like her over a couple LIs and most of the sidegirls, i think she definitely should have hooked up with someone while away and have stated so in posts here in the past. That emotional awakening she had about the Fuckface seemed only 90% there but still it was still genuine and compelling enough with that amount of the backstory we got to read and see i can look past this. In my headcannon she fucked someone and got a deeper perspective, we just wasnt shown it or told it, just like how Mel, Sarah, Rio etc is fucking people without us being really told nor shown. They are only prostitutes in name atm, just a throwaway line like "paying for themselves now" and the rest asking for money from Fuckface and we can infer whats happening. Side note: The girl getting double railed at the dorm party is a fresh reminder of what we might get to see soon. Unless that made enough patrons unsettled as they couldnt tell themselves some convenient lie and DPC shies away from it, im 100% sure he tested the waters a bit with that quick scene. I welcome this development. The Vixens will be interesting if it was one of them.



Decent writing there. More of that please. Drama woo! Let the fragile egos face the burn of reality. :KEK:
Then again, fragile egos have deep pockets and their vanilla fantasy can be enjoyed by everyone while the reverse is not the case. :coffee:
Knock off the NTR observations. Your post is likely to be deleted, and you will lose the other points you are making. It only takes one person to object. Since your observations were lengthy, SOMEBODY won't like it.
 
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