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felicemastronzo

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Yes, it does. While Maya not understanding that "using girls to make money" equals whoring them out doesn't do her any favors, she asks the MC what he means. When someone asks you a question with very simple answer, do you think not giving them this simple answer is a smart thing to do? Especially when you're trying to warn them and you can see they don't understand the roundabout version of your warning?
This seems to me to be quite a biased view. In half the cases mc has nothing more to add, Quinn has offered him a service, he has refused so he doesn't know which girls are involved, he doesn't know how far they go

In the other half of the cases, MC is himself a customer and has no great reason to reveal this to Maya, he has already exposed himself more than he should.
 
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Jimayo

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This seems to me to be quite a biased view. In half the cases mc has nothing more to add, Quinn has offered him a service, he has refused so he doesn't know which girls are involved, he doesn't know how far they go
Then he's idiot. She was pretty obvious in what she was offering and if he didn't realize that she was clearly offering sex for money then he's a giant dumbass, and he's not. He knew what she meant and so should you.
 

wd1111

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English would be more appropriate.
in short it basically says there is too little drama in the game, "consequences" essentially are inconsequential in regards to characters you chose to "ignore" and standard figure models that can be seen in other games, and too much money has been spent on licensed music

and that there are other college games out there with more substance
 
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You must mean Nick, not Derek.

Yes, family indeed is both a theme of the game and the source of many plot intricacies. Not unexpected, really, as for most people--particularly at that young age going off to college and being independent for the first time--family are the people who have made the most impact on us (for better and for worse).
Yeah I meant Nick, I’ll edit that out. It absolutely fits in perfectly with the age and setting of the characters. I also forgot (Zoey?) the MCs ex and her arc with the grandmother, home blindness, the tattoo parlors little family of misfits.

Yup. Yup can’t understate family’s impact, just watch a couple of interviews from Soft White Underbelly to underline the worse part.
 

felicemastronzo

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Then he's idiot. She was pretty obvious in what she was offering and if he didn't realize that she was clearly offering sex for money then he's a giant dumbass, and he's not. He knew what she meant and so should you.
In fact, that's not what I wrote. I did not say that he does not know how girls make money. But that he doesn't know who they are and how far their performance goes. For all he knows he might as well stop at the glory hole
 

Sasanid

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in short it basically says there is too little drama in the game, "consequences" essentially are inconsequential in regards to characters you chose to "ignore" and standard figure models that can be seen in other games, and too much money has been spent on licensed music

and that there are other college games out there with more substance
Just ramblings, basically.

Thanks for the translation.
 

dalli_x

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Well, Maya clearly doesn't grasp what "using girls" involves exactly, so at that point the MC should've told her point blank Quinn is whoring HOT girls out, instead of chickening out like a little shit and keeping that to himself. It's dumb enough he didn't start with that, but instead went for the whole "ooooh she's eeeeeviiiiil" vagueness.
Maya knows exactly what the MC was trying to imply.

mc "Nope. EVIL. I know what she does with her girls."
mc "She uses them to earn money."

Even Maya knows it wouldn't be evil if Quinn used the girls to embroider. But Quinn doesn't just use the girls at the restaurant. Riona, for example, sells drugs for Quinn. At the end of EP4, we learn that Maya knows what prostitution is. She said herself that the HOT list and the video evidence she needed made her feel like a prostitute.

my "Uses them how?"

Sounds more like a question to me, so Maya doesn't want to imagine and believe it. Hence the MC's following sentence to add weight to his previous statement and to awaken Maya's instincts.

mc "Just...don't trust her, Maya. Please!"
 

ename144

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This seems to me to be quite a biased view. In half the cases mc has nothing more to add, Quinn has offered him a service, he has refused so he doesn't know which girls are involved, he doesn't know how far they go

In the other half of the cases, MC is himself a customer and has no great reason to reveal this to Maya, he has already exposed himself more than he should.
If he didn't know more than Quinn being "evil" he would never have thought to warn Maya at all. Whether or not the MC accepted Quinn's offer, the MC knows she earns money by pimping out her HOT sisters. That's what the MC should have said to Maya, yet he mysteriously omitted those actual details so as to keep the plot on the rails.

It's hardly the only time the MC has had selective amnesia.
 
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the MC knows she earns money by pimping out her HOT sisters.
It's been a while since I played the first episodes. Someone help my memory, what are the clues again so that MC should know it's the HOT sisters Quinn is pimping out (and not someone off campus)? On one path he recognises Camila iirc? Quinn and Riona coming out of the bathroom when there's someone behind the hole?
 

Lord Emperor

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excuse me I'm stuck when I'm in the start menu and I can't continue the story I don't know why every time I click next or enter it will return to the initial menu please help

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mightybored

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It's been a while since I played the first episodes. Someone help my memory, what are the clues again so that MC should know it's the HOT sisters Quinn is pimping out (and not someone off campus)? On one path he recognises Camila iirc? Quinn and Riona coming out of the bathroom when there's someone behind the hole?
Seeing Quinn and Riona is before he learns about the Restaurant.
 

Oliver Wendell Homely

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excuse me I'm stuck when I'm in the start menu and I can't continue the story I don't know why every time I click next or enter it will return to the initial menu please help

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What file were you trying to launch, exactly?
 

felicemastronzo

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If he didn't know more than Quinn being "evil" he would never have thought to warn Maya at all. Whether or not the MC accepted Quinn's offer, the MC knows she earns money by pimping out her HOT sisters. That's what the MC should have said to Maya, yet he mysteriously omitted those actual details so as to keep the plot on the rails.

It's hardly the only time the MC has had selective amnesia.
It's been a while since I played the first episodes. Someone help my memory, what are the clues again so that MC should know it's the HOT sisters Quinn is pimping out (and not someone off campus)? On one path he recognises Camila iirc? Quinn and Riona coming out of the bathroom when there's someone behind the hole?
Quinn being the vice president is a legitimate deduction, but not a certainty

It's with Sage that mc has unwarranted amnesia, he warned Maya , that's enough. That Quinn can then exploit her as a prostitute, drug mule, drug dealer, underground fighter makes a very small difference
 
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