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None of the flavor variants of hard coded events are canon.

Most of the event with Caleb and the Jocks is canon. Everything dependent on choice and outcome is most definitely not canon. Fighting/not fighting Caleb. If MC “wins” or looses the fight.

You can’t have mutually exclusive choices, and decide that some of them are canon :WaitWhat:.
 
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WastedEfforts

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The fight against Dawe is natural, because the MC defends himself. But the other three jocks do not intervene in the fight or provoke further. Also the three jocks did not mob the MC. So the "enough is enough" already falls away. But when the MC fights against the 3 jocks, he shows his fighting skills to the jocks and that is not good. Why actually? If you know what an opponent can do, you can prepare for it.

Is the DIKs' dildo attack against the jocks justified? That's a double-edged sword for me. On the one hand, yes, because the alphas started the shit. But the HOT girls were all with the DIKs. On the other hand, only Arieth was with the Alphas. But we can't decide that because, as ChipLecsap immortally said, it's canon.

The Tybalt hit is such a double edged sword too. I personally was in such a situation once about 30 years ago. An opponent who was inferior to me even punched me in the face with his fist. But I was so stunned that I don't think I even felt the blow. A policeman had told me once before that it was only self-defense like that, if you apply the same proportionality. But I didn't feel the punch from the guy at all. I didn't hit back and a buddy of mine noticed that and threw the guy away. Thrown away in the warsten sense of the word. So I always decide not to hit Tybalt because he's about to lose some teeth.

Okay, Tommy always gets his ass kicked.
If I remember correctly 3 jocks start running at MC when he makes either decision, so, they were planning to attack him. You can clearly see it if you chose to fight them. MC just stands there and they try to jump at him.

I disagree about dildo incidents being double-edged sword too. It doesn't matter if it was only Aerith was present there. HOT is not Alpha property. They initiated this window breaking shit, in fact it's 2:1 in alpha favor. DIKs are no saints or innocents, but it's not them that started frat house busting.

Police cool story aside, Tybalt was the one who initiated the fight not MC. Next time he will be throwing insults, not punches or slaps (as shown in the showers).

I don't even understand how some people try to belittle those who chose to fight jocks. Jocks exist in mediums to antagonize main character. It's their main purpose, to be be baddies and punching bags.
 

Jimayo

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Girls mostly prefer people like Dik.
ftfy.

Women who have grown the fuck up prefer a guy who's going to treat them well. That's why Lily gives it up for free to a chick mc and tells him that he's the type of guy she'd want to settle down with. Because she's dealt with assholes(DIKs) for a significant portion of her life and like most immature girls eventually mature enough to realize(after they've been with enough assholes) those aren't the type of guys you spend the rest of your life with.

Yes, yes, every trainer says this, no matter if he's good or not. You can't really expect them to say otherwise, right?
Some fights are necessary tho.
Yes, when you are actually defending yourself or another human being.

Yes, MC broke the rule by fighting jocks in the center, but as MC said himself "enough is enough".
Enough is enough is not a good reason. It takes a strength of character that only a real man has to walk away when you really want to beat the shit out of someone. This kind of excuse is what a petulant child uses.

He did not initiated the fight. Dawe did.
And fighting Dawe was self defense.

MC was leaving. I would argue that if Dawe didn't backstab MC after he beat up 3 jock, jocks wouldn't start another fight with MC in the future, since he was clearly stronger, thus saving both parties from further confrontations.
Objection! Speculation.

Chad fight is unprovoked and started by Chad.
Which, again, was self defense. Bringing up fights that I already indicated were ok is kind of stupid.

Tommy fight the same.
Not really. He doesn't keep coming after 1 hit. However, I disagree with DPC labelling it a DIK choice. A) He did attack you. B) He's really in need of a sharp lesson in humility and C) It's more of a bro fight anyways where no one's trying to significantly hurt each other but the line has been crossed and your friend needs to be taken down a peg.

Caleb fight is a tricky one. it can be argued both ways, honestly.
No it can't be. That's the kind of fight a petulant child get's in to because they want to feel like a big man.

I don't see how MC is a jerk. He do not initiate fights due to his hystory of being bullied.
Except you've literally listed 2 fights that are initiated by the MC. Dawe initiated that fight but the jocks didn't. They just ran up after that fight was over. The MC attacks them if the player makes that choice. Dick move. Same with the Caleb fight. He doesn't take a swing at the MC unless the MC takes a swing at him first. Another dick move. In both cases they are defending themselves from you.
 

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I love how people like you pretend it's all on one side of an argument and the side you agree is in no way being assholes too(just like you are).
This times, this is called "Bubble", the one someone is in, is (for him) the only right one. Everybody in another one is always wrong.

Best thing to do is to get a needle and destroy the bubbles. ;)
 

Geralt From Rivia

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If I remember correctly 3 jocks start running at MC when he makes either decision, so, they were planning to attack him. You can clearly see it if you chose to fight them. MC just stands there and they try to jump at him.

I disagree about dildo incidents being double-edged sword too. It doesn't matter if it was only Aerith was present there. HOT is not Alpha property. They initiated this window breaking shit, in fact it's 2:1 in alpha favor. DIKs are no saints or innocents, but it's not them that started frat house busting.

Police cool story aside, Tybalt was the one who initiated the fight not MC. Next time he will be throwing insults, not punches or slaps (as shown in the showers).

I don't even understand how some people try to belittle those who chose to fight jocks. Jocks exist in mediums to antagonize main character. It's their main purpose, to be be baddies and punching bags.
Let's not forget about honor. The MC must make a show of strength to the jocks in order not to be bullied in the future.
If he got scared and ran away, then in the future they will not be afraid of him.
Physically, MC is very strong and knows how to fight, the pitching with the exception of Caleb and Chad are not fighters, they are punters. The only one I felt sorry for beating up was Anthony, but war is war.
 

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If I remember correctly 3 jocks start running at MC when he makes either decision, so, they were planning to attack him. You can clearly see it if you chose to fight them. MC just stands there and they try to jump at him.

I disagree about dildo incidents being double-edged sword too. It doesn't matter if it was only Aerith was present there. HOT is not Alpha property. They initiated this window breaking shit, in fact it's 2:1 in alpha favor. DIKs are no saints or innocents, but it's not them that started frat house busting.

Police cool story aside, Tybalt was the one who initiated the fight not MC. Next time he will be throwing insults, not punches or slaps (as shown in the showers).

I don't even understand how some people try to belittle those who chose to fight jocks. Jocks exist in mediums to antagonize main character. It's their main purpose, to be be baddies and punching bags.
They did not run toward the MC. They just stood there speechless and couldn't believe what they were seeing.

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Okay, if that's how you feel about the jocks, I respect that. But it's out of our hands anyway because it's "canon".

The part in the shower bothers me a little, Tybalt is afraid of the MC either way. It doesn't matter if the MC punches Tybalt in the face with his fist or not. But it will probably be that Tybalt can be pissed because he got the tennis ball from Isabella before.

I don't want to belittle the people who fight with the athletes. Let everyone decide that for themselves, please. I for one decided against it because the 3 athletes did nothing to the MC.
 
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Let's not forget about honor. The MC must make a show of strength to the jocks in order not to be bullied in the future.
If he got scared and ran away, then in the future they will not be afraid of him.
Physically, MC is very strong and knows how to fight, the pitching with the exception of Caleb and Chad are not fighters, they are punters. The only one I felt sorry for beating up was Anthony, but war is war.
None of the three jocks will mob the MC after he just left. They have respect for the MC just because he promoted Dawe on the floor. A little later, Chad messes with the MC. Chad was definitely harmed more than the MC and lost his presidential title to boot. No, all but one jock (Dawe) respects the MC and doesn't mob him.

Quite the opposite. If the MC writes on Rooster that Dawe is holding on to his tail while two guys are arm wrestling, two or three jocks will side with the MC. This can be read.
 
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None of the three jocks will mob the MC after he just left. They have respect for the MC just because he promoted Dawe on the floor. A little later, Chad messes with the MC. Chad was definitely harmed more than the MC and lost his presidential title to boot. No, all but one jock (Dawe) respects the MC and doesn't mob him.

Quite the opposite. If the MC writes on Rooster that Dawe is holding on to his tail while two guys are arm wrestling, two or three jocks will side with the MC. This can be read.
It doesn't look like "respect" yet. MC made a funny joke about Dawe and they reacted to it, besides, according to Quinn, "nobody likes Dawe". Perhaps the same attitude towards him in alphas as towards Tybalt in snobs.
I saw what I wanted to see at the HOTs party in Ep7 and drew conclusions. The jocks react aggressively to the MC, the only ones who react normally - Chad ("Leave him. He's cool") - because I stood up for him at the teachers' council. And also Anthony, but he is generally a kind soul
 
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For real it's ridiculous. I play BAD with my boyfriend and we focus on the fucking, not psychoanalysing what path is better. People just need to get laid.
There is abstinence from a new preview and it affects us all and I'm bored being in the thread if there's nothing new to say anymore

In my times here we talk about which of the girls had the best ass
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Jimayo

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Let's not forget about honor. The MC must make a show of strength to the jocks in order not to be bullied in the future.
If he got scared and ran away, then in the future they will not be afraid of him.
Weird how it doesn't stop them from coming at you later then.

This isn't Ender's Game.

I like how you belittle people who do not subscribe to your philosophy.
A real DIK move.
You confuse being nice with eating people's shit with a grin on your face. When you call people simp and pussy they aren't gonna play nice anymore. Clapping back doesn't make one a dick.
 

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All this affinity talk just validates my (unpopular) opinion that this game is borderline unplayable without a cheat mod. The only time I tried making a playthrough without it I couldn't even get to the end of chapter 2 because I felt like the system just sets you on such a narrow path that I might as well be playing a pure visual novel.

At this point I couldn't care less if it ends up breaking the game in the long run. The alternative just isn't worth it.
 

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For real it's ridiculous. I play BAD with my boyfriend and we focus on the fucking, not psychoanalysing what path is better. People just need to get laid.
We need new Episode.
I blame Interlude, and Zoey personally, for delaying new release.

They did not run toward the MC. They just stood there speechless and couldn't believe what they were seeing.

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Okay, if that's how you feel about the jocks, I respect that. But it's out of our hands anyway because it's "canon".

The part in the shower bothers me a little, Tybalt is afraid of the MC either way. It doesn't matter if the MC punches Tybalt in the face with his fist or not. But it will probably be that Tybalt can be pissed because he got the tennis ball from Isabella before.

I don't want to belittle the people who fight with the athletes. Let everyone decide that for themselves, please. I for one decided against it because the 3 athletes did nothing to the MC.
Yep they stood there confused, but as soon as you pick option to fight them, they start going after him. MC didn't even make a move and they went after him.
All jocks fought or tried to fight MC at one point or another. They literally exist to antagonize and fight MC. Even at HOT party some of them tried to start shit with MC, while he was just chilling.
Even if you don't fight Caleb, ignore all alpha rooster posts, he still will try to antagonize MC in the 8th chapter.
The idea that some posters try to take moral high ground by denying jocks their purpose is laughable.
I've never said anything about canon btw.
 
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