VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.10.1] [Dr PinkCake]

[FlipFish]

This game makes me sad too, mostly because we keep getting blue balled out of properly fucking Bella.

 

[Black Swamp Ent.]

It was a joke... nvm.

I get it, but I also know a lot of people *only* play these games for the sex/tits/erotic aspects regardless of story/etc. I just find the sex stuff a nice bonus in these VN'S/Games when they're properly made/written.

 

[throwaway122890]

I tried searching the forums, but didn't find anything. I've even checked the guides, but I think I'm missing an event? I'm in EP 4 trying to unlock the last sage and last camilla renders. The guide says win a shot contents against Derek, but I've done all the branches and I haven't ever had an opportunity to do a shot contest with Derek. When is it supposed to happen/how do I trigger it?

 

[Ilhares]

The guide says win a shot contents against Derek, but I've done all the branches and I haven't ever had an opportunity to do a shot contest with Derek. When is it supposed to happen/how do I trigger it?

I believe in this case the contest is drinking the shots (liquor) off Sarah's body at the party. Partake of the party, and win the mini-game.

 

[throwaway122890]

I believe in this case the contest is drinking the shots (liquor) off Sarah's body at the party. Partake of the party, and win the mini-game.

That's in a different episode. I've done that one. This is in episode 4.

 

[duolaamm]

when the 6.0 come

 

[ename144]

That's in a different episode. I've done that one. This is in episode 4.

Assuming you are playing mini-games, it probably means the time you drink the last of your Hell Week beers head-to-head against Derek (after the library scene with Maya & Josy).

 

[throwaway122890]

Assuming you are playing mini-games, it probably means the time you drink the last of your Hell Week beers head-to-head against Derek (after the library scene with Maya & Josy).

Thank you dude! The guide to renders had it happening before the library scene. I kept thinking I missed something.

 

[AntiFlash]

Do you think Episode 6 will be out until October? I think it will, Friday will give you an idea

 

[Ilhares]

That's in a different episode. I've done that one. This is in episode 4.

Nuts, my apologies. They need to clean up the guide, and I need to replay the game.

 

[Razrback16]

yeah no. Maya's the one who is desperate for "free tuition"

Funny you mention Maya, I could see Josy doing it for her, hah.

 

[Roelandt]

Josy doesn't need the money, but she sure could do it for Maya if she skips the free tuition.

Umm...there is no "free tuition". It's just a rumor that Quinn reinforces to lure more needy (let's be honest...) victims.
Quinn: "Loose Hips, get Tips!"



"Free Tuition" is likely a scam perpetrated by Quinn to trick girls into agreeing to be prostitutes. The fact that it's a rumor is reinforced in the Quinn/Riona scene among a few other places. Someone "started" the rumor, and judging from the scene, it sounds like its probably Quinn (if not Mel and Sarah).



Apparently, the HOTS don't have enough money to pay their bills (let alone pay tuitions), thanks to Quinn blowing it on narcotics, loss of clients, and mismanagement (as revealed in Episode 5). But that's only temporary since they are only going to be able to hang on for a short time before falling behind again with the loss of revenue from losing the Alphas as clients, the possible ruining the deal with the Preps (possibly, considering the DIK interference at the party I doubt that the negotiations between Rich and Quinn become final, and I wouldn't be surprised if Tybalt doesn't end up paying the HOTs for the party after everyone evacuated) and now, thanks to screwing over Tommy (as he sees it), the loss of the DIKs for drug revenue. Quinn is screwed in Episode 6 and may need to do something desperate. Will she risk stepping up her prostitute game? I also think she's gradually losing Riona. Without her, I think Quinn is on even thinner ice.

 

[Roelandt]

First of all, "real women" are broken. Everyone is "broken" in some way, so to say that Jill is the most "real" because she so far hasn't shown much signs that she's dealing with anything serious or has negative traits is ridiculous and it does not mean she is more "real" than the others who, in my view, are far more real because of their faults and insecurities. Jill is, at this moment, too perfect, and the hammer is eventually going to fall on what it is that makes her not so perfect as well, otherwise she just becomes a charicature of perceived female "perfection".

As far as her stance on relationships goes, what she says here seems, to me, to be ambiguous. It doesn't necessarily indicate monogamy as "being in a relationship" could mean a relationship with more than one person. "Seeing others" is therefore a broad, general term for seeing anyone outside the defined relationship, so if it were a committed relationship of 2 or even 3 people, going outiside of that to see someone else would be "despicable". She might not mean it that way, but then again, we don't really know for sure what her stance would be on a poly relationship, therefore this statement, until we find out otherwise, could be taken as a more general statement about stepping outside the bounds of an established relationship.

This actually ties in to the point about "moral fluidity", because until we know what her stance is on relationships, whether she believes in only monogamy or not, then her morals at this point are, from a speculative standpoint at least, fluid because we don't yet know what they are. Right now, she could really fall on either side of this and even if she was on the monogamy side, it doesn't necessarily mean she's rigidly on that side as certain cirsumstances coupled with well reasoned arguments in favour of it could sway her to the other side, particularly when they involve a close friend who she may have shared an intimate moment with.



Poly relationships may be rare, but it doesn't neceaarily mean they are "doomed". In any relationship, it's about having a foundation built on mutual trust, affection, and understanding, and as long as everyone in the relationship knows where they stand, then there's no reason it can't work as long as they each put in the effort to make it work. But, then again, finding actual stats and figures on poly relationships are almost impossible to come by due to societal stigma, so it can't be said for certain that such relationships can't work or aren't more common that we might think.

Monogamy is another one of those puritanical principles that, in some ways, actually goes against the "human condition". In fact, we've been "conditioned" to believe that only monogamy is acceptable which is what causes so many problems when it comes to people in committed relationships falling in love with someone else. In reality, men generally still desire multiple partners as it's part of the primitive/primal brain of being a dominant male and to propagate as much as possible, and women will often desire one man, much like it is in the animal kingdom with apes and lions. It is possible to love more than person in a romantic way, but society tells us we can't which, in essence, goes against nature.

Therefore, what matters most in a poly or even open relationship is the understanding of the situation. If 2 people enter into a monogamous relationship and one person cheats, then that is a betrayal of the terms of the relationship, but if someone enters into an open relationship then it is not a betrayal, and in a poly relationship the understanding is that at least one person has at least 2 other people they are intimate with. So such a relationship can be rationalised as long as all parties know the terms and are OK with them.



Again, we don't yet know Jill's stance on such a relationship. She may not disapprove of such a thing even if she thinks it's not for her, or she may never have considered the possibility for her but would have no problem with it if it happened. We really cant say for sure.



From a writing perspective, anything is possible and anything can work as long as it's written well. I admit that a Bella/Jill/MC poly or even sharing relationship is a long shot and I'm not saying that it is any way guaranteed, but I also don't see it as being totally outside the realms of possibility and plausibility.

For one thing, they can still be pursued somewhat separately by not pursuing Bella in favour of Jill, and not being particularly warm towards Jill in favour of being more interested in Bella, so it's not as if it would be forced like the M&J relationship. Secondly, the possibility that they once shared an intimate moment with each other could be a factor, indeed a "foundation", of setting something up with the 3 of them. And thirdly, whilst it could be seen as "too much" to have another such relationship possibility, it could also be seen as providing a greater level of choice for players since we have a M&J threesome route, possible M or J solo routes, a Sage route, a Jill route, and a Bella route, so a potential Bella/Jill route is simply providing another option, particularly for those who might want a poly relationship, but prefer B&J over M&J.

At the end of the day, whilst I acknowledge that this relationship might seem like something of a pipe dream and it is in no way guaranteed, it's not impossible nor would it, in my view, ruin anything with these characters, this story, or DPC as a writer.

Gonna have to agree to disagree on all points there, Bacchus, and I rarely disagree with you! So this is a first for me! Hehe. Isn't individualism AWESOME!

I will explain what I mean by Real Woman. To me (note the words: "to me") a Real Woman is defined as someone that makes a good long term relationship and Broken is defined as someone who is not ideal for a long term relationship (I talked about that in the thread a month or 2 ago). Nothing to do with Faults, but elements that make for a poor partner.

Quinn, by no stretch of the imagination is marrying material...unless you like prison. Heh. Absolutely NONE of the main women in the story (apart from Jill) would make a good long term relationship in my viewpoint. I didn't say Bella or Sage or Maya isn't a good person and Jill is. I said that Jill has not demonstrated codependent personality disorder, the propensity to be unfaithful, sell drugs, make a few extra bucks as a hooker, sleep around until she gets crabs...you know...the things Reasonable Men should avoid when looking for a long term partner. i.e. a Real Woman.

I think if you look around your life you will find that most people you know fall into that Jill category. You know the type: Friendly, compassionate, trustworthy, concerned for the people in their lives and the less fortunate, willing to learn from mistakes, try their best. You know...most people in the world. No one is perfect. No one. I never said that. Everyone has faults, but most aren't bad or "unsafe" people.

 

[Roelandt]

Not the tits and stuff, More along the story lines. I know it's a "porn" game, but the story/writing in his stuff is top notch, and his stories always has something in it that ends up being a downer (for me). Acting lessons had it and now BADIK does as well.

BADIK hasn't done that...yet. I actually doubt it will. There may be sad/bad end options. Most of the more complex games do that. But I have decided to believe it will not be traumatic and depressing like AL.

I'm staying hopeful, Tldoguy. If Doc sticks with the theme (comedic college drama), unlike he did with AL (romantic drama to psycho-thriller), the future of BADIK will be fun and rewarding!

 

[xsssssssss]

Umm...there is no "free tuition". It's just a rumor that Quinn reinforces to lure more needy (let's be honest...) victims.
Quinn: "Loose Hips, get Tips!"

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"Free Tuition" is likely a scam perpetrated by Quinn to trick girls into agreeing to be prostitutes. The fact that it's a rumor is reinforced in the Quinn/Riona scene among a few other places. Someone "started" the rumor, and judging from the scene, it sounds like its probably Quinn (if not Mel and Sarah).

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Apparently, the HOTS don't have enough money to pay their bills (let alone pay tuitions), thanks to Quinn blowing it on narcotics, loss of clients, and mismanagement (as revealed in Episode 5). But that's only temporary since they are only going to be able to hang on for a short time before falling behind again with the loss of revenue from losing the Alphas as clients, the possible ruining the deal with the Preps (possibly, considering the DIK interference at the party I doubt that the negotiations between Rich and Quinn become final, and I wouldn't be surprised if Tybalt doesn't end up paying the HOTs for the party after everyone evacuated) and now, thanks to screwing over Tommy (as he sees it), the loss of the DIKs for drug revenue. Quinn is screwed in Episode 6 and may need to do something desperate. Will she risk stepping up her prostitute game? I also think she's gradually losing Riona. Without her, I think Quinn is on even thinner ice.

I disagree, pretty sure there is some tuition deal going on. A scam would make zero sense.
Don’t think Quinn or any of the hots are the ones spreading the rumor. Probably someone external messing with her.
Think the hots have plenty of money to pay their regular bills as heather states.
It’s the off the books stuff where there’s an issue. Personally I hold the view that someone is extorting money out of Quinn which is why she’s suddenly struggling to pay all her side bills

 

[felicemastronzo]

Umm...there is no "free tuition". It's just a rumor that Quinn reinforces to lure more needy (let's be honest...) victims.
Quinn: "Loose Hips, get Tips!"

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"Free Tuition" is likely a scam perpetrated by Quinn to trick girls into agreeing to be prostitutes. The fact that it's a rumor is reinforced in the Quinn/Riona scene among a few other places. Someone "started" the rumor, and judging from the scene, it sounds like its probably Quinn (if not Mel and Sarah).

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Apparently, the HOTS don't have enough money to pay their bills (let alone pay tuitions), thanks to Quinn blowing it on narcotics, loss of clients, and mismanagement (as revealed in Episode 5). But that's only temporary since they are only going to be able to hang on for a short time before falling behind again with the loss of revenue from losing the Alphas as clients, the possible ruining the deal with the Preps (possibly, considering the DIK interference at the party I doubt that the negotiations between Rich and Quinn become final, and I wouldn't be surprised if Tybalt doesn't end up paying the HOTs for the party after everyone evacuated) and now, thanks to screwing over Tommy (as he sees it), the loss of the DIKs for drug revenue. Quinn is screwed in Episode 6 and may need to do something desperate. Will she risk stepping up her prostitute game? I also think she's gradually losing Riona. Without her, I think Quinn is on even thinner ice.

you are right, the existence of this free tuition is quite doubtful. it could also simply refer to the money that the girls who work with Quinn earn and which could cover college costs.

I don't think it's just bait though, Quinn needs girls in need, but she also needs their loyalty, if they were lured so blatantly with deception then she would risk a lot

But it's all unclear, starting from Quinn's economic situation, how can it be that the little criminal mind of the College is so pathologically broke?

 

[Razrback16]

Personally I hold the view that someone is extorting money out of Quinn which is why she’s suddenly struggling to pay all her side bills

Ya I wouldn't be surprised if this is where a potential "other side" of Quinn shows up where perhaps her intentions for the $ are actually not all bad, maybe trying to help a family member or friend in need, etc. Gonna be interesting as I doubt the story with her will be this simple...DPC's spent 5 episodes so far painting a specific narrative of Quinn. I wouldn't be shocked to see him start flipping the narrative at least to a degree at some point with Quinn in the near future once MC gets a glimpse of her operations more up close.

 

[felicemastronzo]

I disagree, pretty sure there is some tuition deal going on. A scam would make zero sense.
Don’t think Quinn or any of the hots are the ones spreading the rumor. Probably someone external messing with her.
Think the hots have plenty of money to pay their regular bills as heather states.
It’s the off the books stuff where there’s an issue. Personally I hold the view that someone is extorting money out of Quinn which is why she’s suddenly struggling to pay all her side bills

it must be something like that.

I see 2 possibilities: either Quinn had to expose herself financially to get into the drug dealer (anticipating the money for the goods or other), and now she is struggling to get back the expense, or all these traffics are needed to cover other expenses we don't know the reasons.

I don't think it's something strictly personal for Quinn, at least as far as she talks about it with Rionna

 

[RonWeasleyJr]

i wonder if DPC is planning the fact that B&R was founded in 1921 to play into the game.

MC: "Centennial Week?"

Sage: "Yeah, B&R turns 100 this year, so all the Greek organizations are planning a big week long festival."

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Quinn: "Centennial Week will be the perfect opportunity to flood the campus with our new product. If we can get some of the wealthy alumni hooked, we'll be set for life."

Riona: "I don't know, Quinn....."



Of course, that would require DPC to have some serious long range planning and timing to pull it off.

 

[Roelandt]

I disagree, pretty sure there is some tuition deal going on. A scam would make zero sense.
Don’t think Quinn or any of the hots are the ones spreading the rumor. Probably someone external messing with her.
Think the hots have plenty of money to pay their regular bills as heather states.
It’s the off the books stuff where there’s an issue. Personally I hold the view that someone is extorting money out of Quinn which is why she’s suddenly struggling to pay all her side bills

Except that Sage, Quinn, and Riona said it is JUST a rumor. So, I gotta agree with them and disagree with you as its clearly stated several times in the narrative.

So, if as you said, if someone other than Quinn or the HOTs are the ones spreading the rumor, then how can it be "an external rumor spread to mess with them" if there actually IS a tuition reimbursement program? If that were the case it wouldn't be a rumor, it would be advertising. You talked yourself out of your argument there.

Heather was talking about HOTs paying their dues. She's a sister. She's not an officer. She doesn't have privy to the finances of the frat, thus Riona's reaction in that scene (who, being a coconspirator, is fully up on the finances better even than Sage is). Heather doesn't know what's going on behind the scenes. Sage and Quinn do and they think they have money problems. I must disagree with you and agree with them as it's clearly stated several times in the narrative.

The HOTs money problems are the entire point of the conflict of Episode 5 (they cancelled on the DIKs to go to the A&O party because they need the money. Sage flat out tells the MC that over the phone. And Sage and Quinn argue about it during the car wash, and Tommy and Quinn fight about it at the end of the Episode. I recommend you go back and view those scenes. I gather you may have skipped through them.

I agree with you that Quinn needs money but there is no indication that she is being embezzled...certainly not that she "the victim." From what it appears (based on what has been said and shown in the game), she's just making bad "business" decisions buying more product that she is able to sell, and it's impacting the HOTs because (more plausibly than she's being extorted) I believe SHE is embezzling funds from the HOTs. That's more in line with her criminal characterization, and the conflict as presented in the story so far.