ViperDevlin44

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I will expand, market data and surveys have consistently shown that the top three popular fetishes are .... rape/non-con, pregnancy, and bdsm. Meanwhile the bottom of the list is scat, and guro. Scat and guro fall into about 5% of the human population that are interested in it, however data has shown that over 60% find both those "tags" unappealing that if it is included they won't touch the product. That being said, it has also been proven that by being able to turn off said content the damage to appeal can be mitigated.
Now, trying to appeal to everyone is a waste of time... it tends to dilute content and lower the quality of content provided. In almost all cases, being able to turn off content that isn't the main focus increases the appeal of the product. So customization of a game is generally a good thing, however as stated prior... tags like scat and guro are highly unpopular... so unless that is the main "kink" of the product... there will be a loss of interest regardless of whether the content can be turned off or not... This isn't a baseless opinion... just what the market data and surveys I have seen show.
You don't have to like it, and it doesn't have to be about "money"... Its just data that can be kept in mind to know where the general interest will be and how one can expand that interest. The data supports my position on "build a bear" games. Though there is plenty of room to be had for a healthy non-butthurt debate.
You forgot incest it is a very popular fetish
 

yoyomistro

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I will expand, market data and surveys have consistently shown that the top three popular fetishes are .... rape/non-con, pregnancy, and bdsm. Meanwhile the bottom of the list is scat, and guro. Scat and guro fall into about 5% of the human population that are interested in it, however data has shown that over 60% find both those "tags" unappealing that if it is included they won't touch the product. That being said, it has also been proven that by being able to turn off said content the damage to appeal can be mitigated.
Now, trying to appeal to everyone is a waste of time... it tends to dilute content and lower the quality of content provided. In almost all cases, being able to turn off content that isn't the main focus increases the appeal of the product. So customization of a game is generally a good thing, however as stated prior... tags like scat and guro are highly unpopular... so unless that is the main "kink" of the product... there will be a loss of interest regardless of whether the content can be turned off or not... This isn't a baseless opinion... just what the market data and surveys I have seen show.
You don't have to like it, and it doesn't have to be about "money"... Its just data that can be kept in mind to know where the general interest will be and how one can expand that interest. The data supports my position on "build a bear" games. Though there is plenty of room to be had for a healthy non-butthurt debate.
I'm done dude. If you don't get why something like this or other Japanese classics like Ichi the Killer, Mezzo Forte, Battle Royale, things that explore disturbing themes within a certain context don't adhere to "market data" and "surveys" and stand on their artistic merit, you really are just obtuse.
 
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animanyx

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I'm done dude. If you don't get why something like this or other Japanese classics like Ichi the Killer, Mezzo Forte, Battle Royale, things that explore disturbing themes within a certain context don't adhere to "market data" and "surveys" and stand on their artistic merit, you really are just obtuse.
I was never talking about any of that, so... who's obtuse? I was talking about something else... and you are talking about... whatever the fuck. I'm glad your done with the conversation.. because it wasn't a conversation. It was a response about something else.... You dove in and started arguing about an unrelated topic and... start white knighting and defending your perceived insult to a game I wasn't talking about. Perhaps you should consider being a little more Acute and hone in on the topic of the conversation... that you decided to derail, and argue about whatever the fuck. Dunno how build a bear becomes... japanese classics... what the actual fuck.

Person1 "people need to stop asking for build a bear games, ggrrr"
person 2 " Build a bear has wider appeal to the public"
person 1 " Don't insult bible black you monster, its its Art!!!"

Though in hindsight, my responses were more snippy than I intended. Perhaps the confusion over topic was lost in my casual phrasing. Though... the topic at hand should have been obvious as it was a quoted reply.. So, I'll apologize for my word vomits causing confusion.. top portion of this reply is... impulse slang, bottom is me thinking before I type. I am aware of my bad habits. Not going to apologize over your perceived insult, though... that is on you.
 
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animanyx

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You forgot incest it is a very popular fetish
Incest is on the higher end of the list but.... I don't think it made the top 20. Don't remember specifically. Keep in mind the list included... many many "fetishes" so... And there were some variations per survey or sample...
 

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I was never talking about any of that, so... who's obtuse? I was talking about something else... and you are talking about... whatever the fuck. I'm glad your done with the conversation.. because it wasn't a conversation. It was a response about something else.... You dove in and started arguing about an unrelated topic and... start white knighting and defending your perceived insult to a game I wasn't talking about. Perhaps you should consider being a little more Acute and hone in on the topic of the conversation... that you decided to derail, and argue about whatever the fuck. Dunno how build a bear becomes... japanese classics... what the actual fuck.

Person1 "people need to stop asking for build a bear games, ggrrr"
person 2 " Build a bear has wider appeal to the public"
person 1 " Don't insult bible black you monster, its its Art!!!"

Though in hindsight, my responses were more snippy than I intended. Perhaps the confusion over topic was lost in my casual phrasing. Though... the topic at hand should have been obvious as it was a quoted reply.. So, I'll apologize for my word vomits causing confusion.. top portion of this reply is... impulse slang, bottom is me thinking before I type. I am aware of my bad habits. Not going to apologize over your perceived insult, though... that is on you.
OK. I see where you misunderstood what I said. I never said people should stop asking for build-a-bear games, but I see people comment on these older Japanese VNs, which gave rise to the genre everyone is aping now, and they don't understand the context. It's a delivery vehicle for a narrative, like a movie or a comic book. And then it gets posted on one of these sites and people start asking shit like "Is there NTR?" or "Can you skip this?" and it's like, can you familiarize yourself with the historical context of this work? It's like if someone posted Dumas on a forum and someone was like, can I get an abridged version? It's like, do you even understand what it is you're reading? Or people who complain about censorship in Japanese games in every single thread. I just have automatic responses and they've tended to get snarkier cuz it's the same questions and responses like people can't read what people have said before them, talkless of familiarizing themselves with the context in which work was developed.

Then you come in talking about paint drying and market surveys for a work that was made to be a narrative in a medium that was primarily used as a delivery vehicle for either fixed narratives or narratives with some choice, and are applying a derivative context as if that was the context in which this work was developed.

I was not digging at build-a-bear games, I use the tag system like everyone else. But when people come into these threads of older VNs and start asking dumb questions that ignore the context of these works, it's easiest to just put them down quickly to dissuade others from polluting the threads with redundancy.
 
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Lol all these precocious people who want their build-a-bear porn these days... Can't appreciate a good story if it gets in the way of their fetishes.
i understand where you are coming from but look at this from their perspective. first off most people here come for a good time. they dont care its old or genre defining .so its perfectly ok to ask about ntr and guro.people dont wanna see that shit.even i dont want to see that shit.But the thing is i came with the view thats its a cultural masterpiece.so i was willing to sit out the bad stuff to see the good.Not everyone wants to do that . so im shaming you shouldnt shame them for it.
ps i dont actually know the impact it had on vns.i just know its very old and very popular. what was genre defining about it?
 

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i understand where you are coming from but look at this from their perspective. first off most people here come for a good time. they dont care its old or genre defining .so its perfectly ok to ask about ntr and guro.people dont wanna see that shit.even i dont want to see that shit.But the thing is i came with the view thats its a cultural masterpiece.so i was willing to sit out the bad stuff to see the good.Not everyone wants to do that . so im shaming you shouldnt shame them for it.
ps i dont actually know the impact it had on vns.i just know its very old and very popular. what was genre defining about it?
All of those things you stated are in the tags. I guess I get asking if they're avoidable, which is reasonable, but like I said, people come in threads and start a chain of complaining about tags they don't like and derail them. It's less of an issue now since moderation is a lot stricter about it, but the best way to head it off used to be to just tell people to fuck off, honestly. I didn't do that so much here as make a sly remark, but still, the tags are all there. If there are so many offensive tags it's probably a safe assumption that they're not avoidable.

It's genre defining because it really pushed the hentai horror genre while having very high quality illustration and a good plot. I mean, isn't being popular genre-defining in and of itself? I'm sure other good erotic horror VNs were to some degree influenced by this one's success, like School Days or Euphoria for example. Like people call WoW genre-defining, moreso than even EverQuest, Ultima Online, and Neverwinter Nights even though they came before it and did the MMORPG genre justice. It wasn't until WoW became a phenomenon that the genre exploded with new entries.
 

dark_dragon7

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just one question how much femdom is there / futadom? am a sub so i would go to find those scenes but if its not much then you know :)
 

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Hello, I am having issues with the Daemon Tools Mounter, i cannot even get the free licence version to install, and as such i am asking if it is possible to use another means of Mounting the game to play it?
 

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The free version of Daemon Tools had been pretty sh!tty for the past few years (or probably longer). I personally suggest using a better alternative like Virtual CloneDrive for mounting ISOs. Despite not being updated for several years now, this mounting tool remains perfect it what it does, even in Windows 10.
 

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The free version of Daemon Tools had been pretty sh!tty for the past few years (or probably longer). I personally suggest using a better alternative like Virtual CloneDrive for mounting ISOs. Despite not being updated for several years now, this mounting tool remains perfect it what it does, even in Windows 10.
Yep, haven't used Daemon Tools in years, I mostly use WinCDEmu now. CloneDrive looks good too, haven't tried it though.
 
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Wicky jjron

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Is there a way to play this game on ppsspp or krikiroid2 ? Pls help me I am new here, and I want to play this game badly
 
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Thank god, I have been avoiding bible black hentai for a so many years because of one or the other reasons. For some time I knew it existed as a game but now that I entered the H-game scene(its only been a few months, its sad I never knew H-gmaes and western sex games existed before that and I think its deliberately like that, acting as a gateway for people and the internet doesn't want it to gain popularity reason being said content) its a payoff for waiting and playing the game.
 
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