Ren'Py Big Brother: Another Story Rebuild [v0.05.02] [Aleksey90]

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Nemo56

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Pervie-Dan said:
I tried it and even with 494 Persuasion skill currently I only ever get 49% success chance when trying to convince Alice to take her top off when I use this method. Even after trying almost every day for 2 weeks this does not change.
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It might not have anything to do with that method at all (I didn't notice any difference).

If f96zonetrooper is right, your problem might be, that Erics influence is way too high, which reduces your persuation chance.
 
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f96zonetrooper

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Nemo56 said:
It might not have anything to do with that method at all (I didn't notice any difference).

If f96zonetrooper is right, your problem might be, that Erics influence is way too high, which reduces your persuation chance.
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I don't think it is related to Eric. I have 100% chance on one path (feet, lower legs, back, ...) and only ca. 50% on the other ...
 
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My point of view is that the game has improved a lot is Lisa's content is the best in the game, I prefer Lisa's content in this game to Glamour, although I find this new clothing system useless because it's a waste of time see Lisa changing her clothes and it looks cool but there comes a moment when it becomes tiring, I'm glad it can be deactivated and sincerely wasted content. It wasn't the ideal time to put that, because what every player wants (maybe most) is to see girls dress up sensually, let's say, walk around the house without panties (but with clothes) or maybe naked or maybe without a blouse and bra...
Talking about Alice's content, I didn't like it very much. I didn't even like the content of Glamour, here in this game the events became mixed, you need Lisa to trigger the party event, that blog event for me was the most complicated to follow, some events were extensive, the blackmail I always said it was cheap, anyway, I didn't feel very pleased to follow her content even though I was forced, only Lisa's for me was the most interesting and the way Olivia was introduced too. Olivia is another case, but it wasn't too bad.

The NTR was the best part, how I saw people crying about it because they went the enemy's path. What would they imagine? that Eric would respect Ann's son and give some space for him? Of course he's going to fuck Max, but it's not just that, if you allies with him, he will leave you alone, but the most interesting of this is to see that Max wants to cheat him at the same time he sees that he was cheated. So, It's quite likely that those who followed the path of friendship will see NTR content and those who followed the enemy's path will take a long time to progress with the girls, but that's strange because the way this game is being developed is still slow. I don't know if Eric will blackmail Kira and start having sex with her at dawn, I also don't know if Max will threesome with Kira along with Eric, I don't know whether Kira will ask Max for help in getting rid of Eric because she is being blackmailed, that's both ways, we don't know if Eric will stay in his friend's way and have sex with Alice and Lisa, we don't know if Eric will become a tyrant, if he will be a great friend of Max and Max will steal everything from him and let him to rot without nothing, has several possibilities. I'm not in favor of Eric being present until the end of the game, but it's a character to continue the story.

This was the third game I had to grind the most, the first was innocent witches and the second looser. No more patience for it.

f96zonetrooper said:
Some progress paths look "forced" :

- Kira is very open minded but when she takes a bath at night the player has no option to enter, just knock or spy using the ladder. I doubt that she locks the door at night when everybody is asleep and there are mostly girls in the house anyway.
It would be more consistent if Max could at least enter the bath and talk to her and Kira sends him away if progress with her is not high enough.

- Max can watch porn with Kira at night and masturbate but other options like swim at night or take a bath together can still be locked. If Max made progress with Kira, this progress should to some degree affect all lewd events with Kira.

- To progress with Lisa, she has to be in "very good" mood and Max has to offer doing her homework for her, forcing her to show her tits. She then decides to do her homework by herself and asks Max for a leg massage instead. If she can do the homework on her own and she does not intend to let Max do it for her, there is no reason to show the tits in first place.
At this stage of mood and corruption she probably could ask Max directly for a massage and offer her tits as reward.
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Even if Kira has an open mind you have to understand that she does things hidden from Ann. It's no coincidence that she does her chores at night while everyone else is asleep and even if she left the door open Ann might wake up and ask why the doors aren't closed, my perverted son lives here. The ladder worked well, as Kira seems to be more perceptive than the others.
In other words, Kira is being forced a little bit and losing her prominence too, because she's kind of letting Max get inside her and the downside of that is that when the story is too far along, there won't be much to do with the character. I think just kissing lessons, a few gropes and blowjobs would be enough for this version. I would think better if it followed somewhat the same logic as the original, of Max wanting to have sex with Lisa and she is afraid of it and Kira helps or else after Max takes her out under Eric's blackmail.

From what I understand, Kira is not a woman who will throw herself at Max so quickly, first you watch some Erotica movies with her and then you peeking with the ladder across the bathroom while she takes her shower until she realizes she's being watched and calls you. Anyway, I don't think it was ''forced'' at all just in small parts.
 
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I have an issue where Alice has agreed to sleep naked, but then she isn't actually naked at night which prevents me from continuing the black mail opportunity.
 
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f96zonetrooper

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Lisa's mood seems to go up and down ... there probably is a tendency to go back to neutral a little bit every day ... washing dishes and doing her homework slowly increases mood but during weekend or when trying to progress with Lisa (show tits, do massage) there is not enough mood earned that day to avoid mood going down again.

Alice instead is no problem since there are tons of events each day to raise her mood to maximum.
 
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.Black Panther.

.Black Panther.

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f96zonetrooper said:
Is it possible to counter Eric's influence on Alice?

Eric gets following influence points automatically :
Code: 
    if prevtime < '22:00' <= tm:
        if alice.dcv.battle.stage and alice.dcv.battle.stage!=2:
            if weekday==3:
                $ infl[alice].add_e(50)
            elif weekday!=5:
                $ infl[alice].add_e(20)
2 influence points = 1 %
So at 22:00 Eric gets +25% for every Wednesday and +10% for every other day except Friday. At Sunday 00:00 a new week starts and both Max and Eric loose 15% influence on Alice. Friday is special.

!!! Note that Eric gets influence even if he is absent !!!

Mon +10%
Tue +10%
Wed +25%
Thu +10%
Fri ???
Sat +10%
Sun -15% +10%
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+60% per week

To counter Eric, Max has to earn influence on Alice. Half of the gained influence points are substracted from Eric's influence on Alice. (The same applies for Eric earning influence on Alice and so reducing Max's influence by half the points.)

I remember that in original BB it was possible to completely compensate Eric's influence by doing lots of massages at the pool and in front of tv and by catching/killing spiders and bribing Alice, however in BB_AS the amount of influence Max gets from these actions is neglectable compared to Eric's gain in influence and most of these actions are not available everyday.

So far I got -3% Eric for giving a no-candy massage in front of tv and -3% Eric for killing a spider at night if no demands are made. Candy massage in front of tv does not give any influence for me.

Edit :

There seems to be a faulty coding / bug :
Check the 3rd line of code below where d can be modified or even set to zero :
If Max is close to 100% influence and would cross the limit of 200 points, the gained influence is reduced and only half of the reduced influence is later subtracted from Eric's influence. If Max is already at 100%, d is set to zero and it is not possible to reduce Eric's influence at all.

Code: 
        def add_m(self, d, b = False):
            if self._m1_01classes__m is not None:
                d = d if self._m1_01classes__m + d < self.lim_m else self.lim_m - self._m1_01classes__m
            if d == 0:
                return
        
            if b or not self.freeze:
                if self._m1_01classes__m is not None:
                    self._m1_01classes__m += d
                else:
                    self._m1_01classes__m = d
                if self._m1_01classes__e is not None:
                    self._m1_01classes__e -= d // 2
                    if self._m1_01classes__e < 0:
                        self._m1_01classes__e = 0
.Black Panther. : Maybe you can look over this and fix it in a patch.
I wonder if it is a bug that Eric is gaining influence every day even if he is absent ?
The method add_m should reduce Eric's influence even if Max has already 100% influence, otherwise Eric is unstoppable ...
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yes , They are aware of the existing bias of influence on Alice and correcting it is in their work plan.
 
Nemo56

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f96zonetrooper said:
Lisa's mood seems to go up and down ... there probably is a tendency to go back to neutral a little bit every day ... washing dishes and doing her homework slowly increases mood but during weekend or when trying to progress with Lisa (show tits, do massage) there is not enough mood earned that day to avoid mood going down again.
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Dishes and stuff are enough. Forget about her tits and think of her as a person. Several times dishes a week, 2 handmassages and being nice when she wants to change are enough. Also save her from punishment. That might not be all that easy once Eric bribes the teacher, but sabotaging homework might still work.
 
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hw do you progress in the mentor? it says we sould keep an eye on what they are teaching, but on monday nothing happens
 
Dracconic Evolution

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After doing a lot of testing I am in the same boat as the others with the 3 opportunities, those being: Mentor (No more Monday lessons even though Lisa said that I would need to do the dishes for her, the pills are available (sneaky path here)), Schoolmate (stating that I need to wait for Lisa to come to me for more advice), and Stick or carrot (Which says you need to progress in Schoolmate). So I am of the opinion that 2 of them are either bugged or have gotten into a locked stated kind of like the 2nd Bath cam and TCoYA in which both needed a hot fix for. I have followed the WT just to make sure that I have done what is needed and am using the OnlyFunz mod to track moods as well as influence in case either of those are the triggers.
 
Pervie-Dan

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.Black Panther. said:
yes , They are aware of the existing bias of influence on Alice and correcting it is in their work plan.
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That's good to know. I was also a bit worried about the influence for Alice.

I guess she gets influence gain from Eric in the evening due to working on her blog and Eric bankrolling it with a boost on Wednesday when he's in her room (maybe Max can step in here even before Eric is gone? After Eric's departure Max will have to help Alice anyway ;) ).
But on the other hand, she's grateful for a lot of things Max does, but they don't result in any influence gain (gifting cigarettes and books, saving her from punishment) or don't really do enough.
I understand why any events with Liqueur Candy don't change influence because Alice cannot remember afterwards.
But there should be more things that give influence - giving her a towel when she's outside the shower because of the spider for example.
 
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Would a French translation of the game be on the agenda? some subtleties still escape me in the dialogues
 
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XeromusFang

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How do you start the "taking care of your ass" opp? I've defended alice for more than 5 times and let her get spanked but it still hasn't started.

Well I figured it out but now when Max saves Alice from punishment, it doesn't prompt a speech option in her room afterwards.
 
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