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uhmm ... good question. but unfortunately I do not think anyone knows the answer; now everyone is focused on: "IF" and "WHEN" will continue BB
Ah. That's a bit of new information, so thanks for the clarification. Or I may have missed it earlier. Either way, I don't see the point in rewriting the game. I would definitely love to see it given some closure, even if it's one more update beyond the planned one. If we could have sex with Lisa after having had sex with Ann in the next update, I think the game would leave on a high note. I'd even donate towards that last update if there were a secure source for doing so.
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One thing that gets the attention in incest stories (at least for me) is the moral conflict inherent to this fetish. Same goes for the rape, BDSM or mind control ones (even though they aren't my cup of tea).
Ever since humans learn how to write, literature served as a way to make readers experience things and sensations they usually couldn't, shouldn't or wouldn't be able to.
I find it dificult to get hooked on a story if there isn't any kind of dilemma or moral conflict. For me those are just an average Joe getting random chicks (if that's your thing tho, go ahead).
Take Lolita for example. It tells the story of a middle aged man who falls in love with a 12 years old girl. It's a very succesful book that was read by millions of people. Does that make them pedophiles? I don't think so... Uh... Some of them may in fact be, but that's not the point.
What I'm trying to say, and most people seem to have trouble understanding nowadays, is that literature, fiction, is one thing. Real life is another completely diferent. If you want to tell a love story involving siblings (Dreaming of Dana comes to mind), will you be glorifying incest? Not necessarily.
Yes, I get why patreon is frowning upon rape themes (mind control included) as it's quite of a sensitive topic today, but I can't, for the life of me, understand why they threw incest in the bunch. While it's a taboo fetish (what fetish ins't a taboo in itself anyway), it's a pretty harmless one.
I do understand that in real life incest is, most of the time, a non consensual relationship, but then again, Real Life =/= Fiction.
Without trying to ge too political, those mindsets (liberal, leftist and conservative) in their ever going war agains each other already ruined social media and are starting to crawl their way up other areas. This is not good, not at all.
Sooner you won't be able to even HAVE fetishes because they could offend someone. It sounds stupid, but it's real.
PS: God... I realized I sound like a pervert trying to defend his kinks... (heh, maybe I am)
PS2: I just realized I wrote a wall of text. No tl;dr tho, sorry.
PS3: Never had one.
PS4: Overpriced piece of tech.
Ever since humans learn how to write, literature served as a way to make readers experience things and sensations they usually couldn't, shouldn't or wouldn't be able to.
I find it dificult to get hooked on a story if there isn't any kind of dilemma or moral conflict. For me those are just an average Joe getting random chicks (if that's your thing tho, go ahead).
Take Lolita for example. It tells the story of a middle aged man who falls in love with a 12 years old girl. It's a very succesful book that was read by millions of people. Does that make them pedophiles? I don't think so... Uh... Some of them may in fact be, but that's not the point.
What I'm trying to say, and most people seem to have trouble understanding nowadays, is that literature, fiction, is one thing. Real life is another completely diferent. If you want to tell a love story involving siblings (Dreaming of Dana comes to mind), will you be glorifying incest? Not necessarily.
Yes, I get why patreon is frowning upon rape themes (mind control included) as it's quite of a sensitive topic today, but I can't, for the life of me, understand why they threw incest in the bunch. While it's a taboo fetish (what fetish ins't a taboo in itself anyway), it's a pretty harmless one.
I do understand that in real life incest is, most of the time, a non consensual relationship, but then again, Real Life =/= Fiction.
Without trying to ge too political, those mindsets (liberal, leftist and conservative) in their ever going war agains each other already ruined social media and are starting to crawl their way up other areas. This is not good, not at all.
Sooner you won't be able to even HAVE fetishes because they could offend someone. It sounds stupid, but it's real.
PS: God... I realized I sound like a pervert trying to defend his kinks... (heh, maybe I am)
PS2: I just realized I wrote a wall of text. No tl;dr tho, sorry.
PS3: Never had one.
PS4: Overpriced piece of tech.
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What baffles me is that it looks like Patreon still didn't realized that this market (the NSFW) has demand.
Hell, just Summertime Saga and Dreams of Desire thogether make more than 60k of income.
Why they aren't even considering an adult version of Patreon is beyond me.
Hell, just Summertime Saga and Dreams of Desire thogether make more than 60k of income.
Why they aren't even considering an adult version of Patreon is beyond me.
Supposedly it's one of their recent investors pushing back on them. That, and PayPal doesn't like dealing with adult stuff, even if they do have a spinoff for just that thing. But then again, there's adult, and then there's kinks like incest and the like. Plus, there's the current social climate, with heightened scrutiny on sexual assault. In the eyes of many people, incest is in itself a form of rape. Just like DS couldn't see it happening without some coercion, neither can a lot of other people. If you look at some adult video sites, searching on certain terms like "incest" brings back nothing. It's not that it isn't there, but rather that the site is coded not to let you search for it. You'll see a lot of what is out there posted as "not her brother", or saying it's step when there's no mention of it in the video. So even porn sites can be kind of leery of the kink.
Now, I don't think Patreon is forcing all adult content away. Just stuff that touches at all upon rape, incest, or characters that could be underage. The ones that can stay likely will. I can't imagine another site wanting to take in the sudden influx of kink-laden porn that is out there. Some of it is in too much of a grey area, or even illegal in some places. It's also a PR nightmare. You can set up the site, but people can harass you, or your hosting company, or your payment processor, etc. Whoever tries to set up that competition to Patreon should be prepared for a headache.
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To be honest, the way I notice things lately, Patreon isn't THAT hard on incest games, as long as the page doesn't openly advertise it.
All the games that have fallen untill now either had mentions to it on their pages or had "sugestive" titles.
So, they way I see, it's more of a "facade" thing.
As I said earlier, We'll see how it goes when other big titles like SS and DoD get hit, if they ever do (as their pages are quite clean and their titles aren't really sugestive).
If I were DC and LL, I would start building countermeasures tho, it's always good to have a backup plan in hand.
The impression I get is that the first round was more focused on the facade part. If you changed the name of your game if it suggested incest at all, if you got rid of adult pictures from your public page, and if you never mentioned any taboo fetishes on that public page, you were good.
But now they do seem to be going after actual content in the game itself. I don't know if that was their plan all along, or something new. Either way, it suggests to me that they may not stop here. Their next big thing might be going after any character in an adult game that *could* be under 18.
Summertime Saga is a popular game, but my understanding is that incest is only a part of it. I think they're going to focus on the games focused on incest first, or with that as a primary theme.
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I find it troubling that everyone is just accepting that just because patreon has decreed that BB cannot be posted there, DS is stopping development. I feel like I need to remind people that The game started development without funding, and has since made a LOT of money from peoples voluntary support. Based on the amount of content that was being added each update, it was clearly not a full time occupation for anyone involved so the "I need money to go full time" line was nonsense.
This is where we find out just how dedicated DS is to the game and more importantly the people who had donated thousands of dollars who are now being told that their investment and support was all for nothing. If he had any respect for the people who have supported him for the last 12 months, there should be no question that the game will be finished.
This is where we find out just how dedicated DS is to the game and more importantly the people who had donated thousands of dollars who are now being told that their investment and support was all for nothing. If he had any respect for the people who have supported him for the last 12 months, there should be no question that the game will be finished.
Hm, seems everyone is still hung up on the first step - denial. BB is a great project and it is unfortunate that it will go down like that. I just hope they will find some time to tie up loose ends and make everyone in the house freely fuckable after .13 is released.
@Thudy - do you realize what level of expertise is required to add new content to a project like this? Just keeping it stable and working with all the new events/variables etc. is mind-boggling work. Hopefully, @DarkSilver and his team will have time to develop a better scaling methodology, that would make it easier to add content to the new game.
@Thudy - do you realize what level of expertise is required to add new content to a project like this? Just keeping it stable and working with all the new events/variables etc. is mind-boggling work. Hopefully, @DarkSilver and his team will have time to develop a better scaling methodology, that would make it easier to add content to the new game.
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