lWFDl

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If there were ever a plot hole, this would be it. I've been asking myself this same question every time I play it. Why risk getting caught when you can just watch on the cams. What, 3 updates into using the cams and this has yet to be implemented. I'm wondering if it even crossed DS's mind at this point. The voyeur is strong with this game so the most obvious way to follow through with the fetish is just to watch the cams. But nope. Gotta risk getting caught against crazy odds. I feel sorry for those who play this game unmodded some times. Gives me a headache just thinking bout it
This is no plot hole! If Max mother and sisters finds out that he spies on them since there arrival via hidden cams they would kick him out! Same thing like asking mom to kick eric out because hes is fucking her sister, because max want to fuck her...
 

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This is no plot hole! If Max mother and sisters finds out that he spies on them since there arrival via hidden cams they would kick him out! Same thing like asking mom to kick eric out because hes is fucking her sister, because max want to fuck her...
However, he already manages the site, and you can see mini images of all the cams on the site, so it would make sense to make use of them. Spying should be something he needed to do before installing cams.

The biggest plot hole for me is why they got the house in the first place, and why did they get a house with a hidden cam already installed.
 
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The biggest plot hole for me is why they got the house in the first place, and why did they get a house with a hidden cam already installed.
This isn't exactly a plot hole, more of an unanswered mystery, and would probably be answered if Max could speak to his father,.... or if his father returned. The fact is that the house belonged to his father, who was installing a hidden camera for one room, and before he could dispose of the packaging, he gave the house to his family and got out of there. Its quite likely that the father didnt intend to wire the whole house up, as he could have done all the cameras at once, instead of just installing one. I would guess that perhaps his father intended to record a future meeting or event that he had planned to be held in the lounge, but had to abandon his plans and leave. However,... nothing is certain until DS actually gets around to dealing with the backstory of the house. Who knows if he's even considered any of this. But to me, the House itself is every bit a character in this story too.
 

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However, he already manages the site, and you can see mini images of all the cams on the site, so it would make sense to make use of them. Spying should be something he needed to do before installing cams.
I agree, but, we all know that DS hasnt got aound to making images of every scene that happens in those rooms. Once he does it once, he'll have to do every scene,.. and every scene from then on, because players will then have a potentially alternative view of every event that happens, at various times of day. They may only need to be smaller, or less detailed pictures, but thats still an assheap of pictures to create. It would be a most awesome improvement, and would change the way that the game needs to be played.

But,.. this IS what we imagine with the whole "1984 big brother is watching!"

I think he's just putting it off more and more because he knows there will be a lot of work, and its going to become too big a task to do eventually. I just hope that he doesn't just cover all that and do a few different reaction shots that only shows Max looking at a screen, and describe what Max can see.. He's already had enough negative feedback that should tell him to give players Max's view.
 

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I agree, but, we all know that DS hasnt got aound to making images of every scene that happens in those rooms. Once he does it once, he'll have to do every scene,.. and every scene from then on, because players will then have a potentially alternative view of every event that happens, at various times of day. They may only need to be smaller, or less detailed pictures, but thats still an assheap of pictures to create. It would be a most awesome improvement, and would change the way that the game needs to be played.

But,.. this IS what we imagine with the whole "1984 big brother is watching!"

I think he's just putting it off more and more because he knows there will be a lot of work, and its going to become too big a task to do eventually. I just hope that he doesn't just cover all that and do a few different reaction shots that only shows Max looking at a screen, and describe what Max can see.. He's already had enough negative feedback that should tell him to give players Max's view.
You are correct, and I didn't think of that, as I was just thinking of the cams having the same view, but without the peep chance.

While on the topic of being a pain to implement; something else that bothers me is the lack of dialogue changes, for example, your sis has been giving you a BJ in her room with her lesbian friend, giving you a foot job on the couch, and some fun after drinking, and it's all been going on for a while, but then she's still shocked to see your penis when you spank her on the couch, even though that happens usually well after the footjob massage. It would be nice if there were small changes to how characters react once you have reached a certain point in opportunities.
 

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This isn't exactly a plot hole, more of an unanswered mystery, and would probably be answered if Max could speak to his father,.... or if his father returned. The fact is that the house belonged to his father, who was installing a hidden camera for one room, and before he could dispose of the packaging, he gave the house to his family and got out of there. Its quite likely that the father didnt intend to wire the whole house up, as he could have done all the cameras at once, instead of just installing one. I would guess that perhaps his father intended to record a future meeting or event that he had planned to be held in the lounge, but had to abandon his plans and leave. However,... nothing is certain until DS actually gets around to dealing with the backstory of the house. Who knows if he's even considered any of this. But to me, the House itself is every bit a character in this story too.
Or maybe he did wire the whole house, just Max only found one. The dev definitely has plenty of extra story to explore, so I hope this game keeps getting worked on, improved and extended, he certain can afford it.
 
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Horvax

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Probably you forgot the Wallet. There has to be a opportunity in the near future to get rid of Eric. And perhaps you can arrest him or threaten him to do so that he leaves or, or, or. I'm thrilled to think about all the opportunitys...
I'm almost certain that Max will uncover something fishy about Eric's past (he's a con artist, an illegal immigrant, a fugitive living under false identity?), thus having the chance to blackmail him into leaving under threat of exposing him. Let's not forget that Eric has a video of Max and Kira together (at least in the unmodded version of the game), so Max must have strong evidence in his hands in order to convince the fucker to run away without fighting back.

DS wrote that there might be a second way to get rid of him but, at the moment, I cannot imagine what could that be. Obviously, Max is too weak to fight (but maybe ten online lessons of Kung Fu will turn him into Bruce Lee... o_O), and I doubt that Ann will suddenly open her eyes and realise that her boyfriend is a piece of shit.
 
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You are correct, and I didn't think of that, as I was just thinking of the cams having the same view, but without the peep chance.

While on the topic of being a pain to implement; something else that bothers me is the lack of dialogue changes, for example, your sis has been giving you a BJ in her room with her lesbian friend, giving you a foot job on the couch, and some fun after drinking, and it's all been going on for a while, but then she's still shocked to see your penis when you spank her on the couch, even though that happens usually well after the footjob massage. It would be nice if there were small changes to how characters react once you have reached a certain point in opportunities.
Yeah, there seem to be a lack of development regarding how people treat each other. You would think that the whole Alice thing would be touched upon with her being the focus of last update. Yet she still is acting the same as before. At least there is a new reply to mom if she catches you watching her shower. Seems the developer is only focused on new content at the time. Would be nice to touch upon the conversation between the characters, it should reflect the past events.

Let's not forget that Eric has a video of Max and Kira together (at least in the unmodded version of the game)
You can actually play the unmodded version and avoid Eric getting a video of the two of you. It just takes som grinding and planning.
 

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I'm almost certain that Max will uncover something fishy about Eric's past (he's a con artist, an illegal immigrant, a fugitive living under false identity?), thus having the chance to blackmail him into leaving under threat of exposing him. Let's not forget that Eric has a video of Max and Kira together (at least in the unmodded version of the game), so Max must have strong evidence in his hands in order to convince the fucker to run away without fighting back.

DS wrote that there might be a second way to get rid of him but, at the moment, I cannot imagine what could that be. Obviously, Max is too weak to fight (but maybe ten online lessons of Kung Fu will turn him into Bruce Lee... o_O), and I doubt that Ann will suddenly open her eyes and realise that her boyfriend is a piece of shit.
I'd imagine one will be via the war path and one via the friend path, and I agree with your thoughts on how one may progress, but I also have no idea what a second route might take, unless it's something simple like paying him off with lots of money.
 
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Damn @TCMS nice Avatar. I like her bikini, maybe you tease us your otter's backside...
by the way, no new Alice content in this version? This guy make my balls crazy. I hope to get the MC's dick at least into Mom.
 

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[...] You can actually play the unmodded version and avoid Eric getting a video of the two of you. It just takes som grinding and planning.
That's why I don't play the unmodded version any more.:)
By the way, DS has never explained (correct me if I'm wrong) how Eric managed to get the video in the first place.

I'd imagine one will be via the war path and one via the friend path, and I agree with your thoughts on how one may progress, but I also have no idea what a second route might take, unless it's something simple like paying him off with lots of money.
I don't think so. DS made clear that if Max decides to get rid of Eric, Ann will lose her job.
Now, if Eric agrees to leave her for money, why should he fire her?
The way I see it, she loses her job either because he fires her out of spite, or because he is exposed as a criminal and the company decides to fire her too as his assistant.
 

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I don't think so. DS made clear that if Max decides to get rid of Eric, Ann will lose her job.
Now, if Eric agrees to leave her for money, why should he fire her?
The way I see it, she loses her job either because he fires her out of spite, or because he is exposed as a criminal and the company decides to fire her too as his assistant.
Either way it'll cost Max some money, either paying off Eric or supporting Mom. There's going to have to be an easier way to manage that webcam business, or another source of income (Selling drugs?), just to make it less of a grind (logging into laptop, going to site, hitting advertise, every time someone is going to have sex), and support all these women.
 
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New patreon POLL


I have an unusual poll today. It's results won't affect the game any time soon, but I want to know your thoughts anyway.
Do you want to see cheats in the game?

P.S. Personally, I don't like cheats. Which is why the game has some protection from ArtMoney and CheatEngine, and the save files are encrypted. But, maybe the game will have this feature in the future. I'm not promising anything, though. Just want to know your opinion.

70% yes

20% no

10% other
 
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That's why I don't play the unmodded version any more.:)
By the way, DS has never explained (correct me if I'm wrong) how Eric managed to get the video in the first place.



I don't think so. DS made clear that if Max decides to get rid of Eric, Ann will lose her job.
Now, if Eric agrees to leave her for money, why should he fire her?
The way I see it, she loses her job either because he fires her out of spite, or because he is exposed as a criminal and the company decides to fire her too as his assistant.
How Eric finds out is a plothole, and has not been explained. Which is lame. Regarding the mom losing her job, I too believe it has to be with Eric being angry for losing, and or he gets exposed as the criminal he is. The developer has said that there will be two ways to get rid of Eric. But right now there is only one. If he has time, he might implement the second this update. Time will tell.
 

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Ok this time I'm moving your posts but I haven't and will not do it.

Warning
Stop asking playthrough questions here. There is a thread for that.






And please stop answering them.
 

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if i red it correctly he asked if he should make himself a cheat menu built ingame... and 70% of people said yes. he simply stated that he doesn't like it but he will think about it and do it in the future
 

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if i red it correctly he asked if he should make himself a cheat menu built ingame... and 70% of people said yes. he simply stated that he doesn't like it but he will think about it and do it in the future
He don't need to make it. He could use the mod that is already made here. I'm pretty sure he knows 100% that this thread exists. And I'm pretty sure he follows it!

Big Brother is watching the Big Brother thread! Creepy
 
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