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Finally someone with sense in him, after all the constant comments saying the same old shit.
No, DS wouldn't want to drop BB voluntarily, because it would cost him a lot of money.
All the alternatives suggested here wouldn't work, either because the site is unreliable or uses the wrong payment model. People need to understand DS has employees that he has to pay. That leads into my final point:
Making a patch wouldn't work. Patreon wanted BB completely gone.
Right now, having just a site where he releases BB while people pledge on Patreon is risky. If his Patreon gets banned, his source of income is gone.
So, that’s why he’s setting up his own site where people can pledge monthly. If all his Patreons migrate there, a ban on Patreon wouldn’t matter and he could continue releasing BB.
Last thing: Patreon doesn’t work like Steam. On Steam you buy a license to download and play a game. On Patreon, you support a creator. If you support the creator, you get bonusses for the months that you pledge. In DS’s case, that would be to have access to that months update.
You support the creator by pledging, you don’t buy the game via pledging, and it doesn’t mean you’re promised a finished game.
i had to make new text file then copy and paste it text file rename it mod.txt
Guys, how to combine mods Diamond, Shopping and Lisa Camera Pics? They all have one Mod file.
Guys, how to combine mods Diamond, Shopping and Lisa Camera Pics? They all have one Mod file.
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Can't exactly blame him for wanting to make a different game, only sad part is that we gotta wait at least a year to have any actual content for his new one. Sucks he doesn't want to bring in a "B Team" to finish up Big Brother while Main staff works on his new game
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These are difficult times for @DarkSilver . Let's studying the public response :
I had a great time with this game. What I liked best was probably the characters and the beauty of the renders. Now, bile, bitterness and prejudice are somewhat inappropriate, in my opinion. It's time to say thank to @DarkSilver and to look elsewhere. There are so many quality artists coming out.
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I had a great time with this game. What I liked best was probably the characters and the beauty of the renders. Now, bile, bitterness and prejudice are somewhat inappropriate, in my opinion. It's time to say thank to @DarkSilver and to look elsewhere. There are so many quality artists coming out.
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What kind of promise did DS make, and where did DS make that promise?
As far as I can see, the so-called "transaction" that you'd like to believe is:
1. Patron donated monthly (every 1st day of the month)
2. DS provided update of the game monthly (every 2nd day of the month)
And he did provide update of BB up to 0.13 when Patreon forced him to take BB down from the website. So for every single month that you pledged to him, he provided an update of the game. Where exactly is the problem? Is there ever a month that you pledged to him where he did not provide a game update? Absolutely no.
There is no promise/contract/agreement that DS will provide full completed game in return of your monthly patronage that may or may not continue/stop.
I'll put it this way. You have received from him BB game from 0.1 to 0.13. How many months are you a patron of his? Did you pledge for 12 months to support him for each update? If not, you're getting more updates than the month that you pledge. And you're complaining?
It's flabbergasting to see how pissy people are, despite the fact that it is DS who actually lost his income. People who are patrons will save money. People who are not patrons don't have any monetary investment to begin with either. Once again, people who are angry simply don't understand what Patreon is and have nobody but themselves to blame.
Glamour was a project he had started before BB and he abandoned in 2016 to start BB. Now he relaunches it from the start. ~> He is someone that likes to return to old things he left ~> increases probability that he will return to BB. After all, he returned to Glamour.
>> "we like to be males in games, we can't put ourselves in the situation of courting and fucking a guy. "
I don't put myself in the situation, I am not that much lost in the story. I watch boobs and follow character development. I can do that with either male or female character.
As a note, I also can't put myself in the situation of doing any of the stupid crap that goes on in adult games including but not limited placing cameras in my house to earn money from showing off my family to strangers to lust at. And yet, I had no problem with this game.
>> "Even going for chicks while playing as one makes our skin crawl"
No. It doesn't.
>> "we are conforming to a character that we can't and never will relate to."
I can never relate to most of the characters in games, from adult games to RPGs. Can you relate to an elf that shoots fireballs? And yet I do play such games.
>> "But let's be honest, how large a portion of the market is female? "
A tiny percentage. And yet DS has lost just 20% of his patrons at the time, a week after the announcement that BB is dead.
Going by the outrage about female MC in this thread, I would have expected him to have lost 3/4 of his patrons by now. And yet, most endured and remained.
In the end, he will bleed far more patrons out of inactivity and the "early content - situation building - no sex" phase of the game that would last a few months. THAT will hit the game, not the Female character.
I will keep my level of support to DS, but I doubt I'll pick up Glamour till it is like 500-700 MB to have some decent content.
I really hope he stays in Patreon too as I feel much safer paying there than in a recently-made site with not that much security where my email can be stolen etc.
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Well that`s true, on the other hand you can`t get the game without pledging(legally, not pirating). So it`s kinda buying the game itself, it`s not all black and white to be fair... Supporting the dev would be the donation system for a game that he gives out for free, not this whole patreon thing. This pledges are more like encouraging them to actually do/finish something you like and it`s in the early phases of development. So after you are pledged for about 1-2 years, you kinda want a finished product for all that money, otherwise you can even look at it as some sort of scam.
And this is more on a general level, not just DS/BB:
I`m no dev, I don`t really know what goes on in making a game, but: Why would someone need employees, as long as they take 1 month for an update which contains... let`s say 150 images. You, as a creator, allready know the story and how you want to put it, story wise it would not take that much time to write the update. There are not even that many "lines" to write. Do you really need almost a month for coding and rendering 150 images? Maybe if you`re alone...
When you add employees I would expect updates more often, or the monthy updates to be actually big, not the same as before. I really do feel like most creators are just looking to take as much money for the longest time possible, not actually doing/finishing something worthy, that him and his fans would be fond of.
Hello i started to play this game since 0.10 version,i have a request for those who can help with all mod images working . I downloaded the images but for example (shopping adventure mod) i cant see the images only text all screens are grey ,tried to reinstall but same problem ,do i need some programs to see in game images from mods .
Ps. I have chancer mod and extracted the images from there direct on images folder from the game.
Sorry for my bad english.
Ps. I have chancer mod and extracted the images from there direct on images folder from the game.
Sorry for my bad english.
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