Skylaroo

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LOL All we did was give him money....And how did we get that Money to give him?
By doing an incomplete job at work and telling our Boss, "hey you didn't pay me to finish the job, just do it for a month!"?
You paid on the 1st day of the month to get an update on the 2nd day of the month.
Did you or did you not get an update on the 2nd day of the month? Of course you did.
Have you paid for a full game? Of course you have not.

What is so hard to understand?

Your analogy about work is completely off because if you are only paid for a month by your boss, then your boss will only get a month's worth of work from you. Why would you work for more than a month if your boss only pays you for a month?
 

beijing999

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Sex with mom and doubly with Alice and more sex with mom all over the house.
The Statement of the DmD maker was clear for everybody! "I´ll go one with my game with or without Patreon, and there can´t blackmail me to start another game. It coast me money and time but i w´ll find a way to update the game in my way. Not under control as Patreon already is. We believe on knowlege not on hope as Patreon do.
 

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You paid on the 1st day of the month to get an update on the 2nd day of the month.
Did you or did you not get an update on the 2nd day of the month? Of course you did.
Have you paid for a full game? Of course you did not.

What is so hard to understand?

Your analogy about work is completely off because if you are only paid for a month by your boss, then your boss will only get a month's worth of work from you. Why would you work for more than a month if your boss only pays you for a month?
I can buy any COMPLETED AAA game for about $40-60!
Tell me I'm getting my money's worth on a $40 monthly Patreon charge...How many renders are in this release again?

And my Analogy is dead on, because if he paid me for a year to do something I had better finish it before the year was out or he would likely fire me!
 
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Jackboo1

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I can buy any COMPLETED AAA game for about $40-60!
Tell me I'm getting my money's worth on a $40 monthly Patreon charge...How many renders are in this release again?
Not this kinda of "game" champs :eek:penedeyewink::eek:penedeyewink::eek:penedeyewink:
 

tmv

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I kind of liked this update and it would be a shame if it would not be continued and finished.

However, and this applies to most games here, the logic of Max' development with Ann would support that other scenes between them two would also be more 'close' and 'intimite'. However, these interactions only appear with the new scenes. I understand that it would require more work, but it would make a better game.
 
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Skylaroo

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I can buy any COMPLETED AAA game for about $40-60!
Tell me I'm getting my money's worth on a $40 monthly Patreon charge...How many renders are in this release again?
You're complaining about your own bad decision though.

You chose to spend $40/month on a patreon page. You got a $40/month worth of game update. Whether that $40/month amount is worth your money or not, that's completely up to you. You got what you paid for.

Be a man and take ownership of your own action. Don't be the guy that blame others for his own mistake.
 

DOA40

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*Sigh*

Well, I'm almost done with every quest in the game so far. Just gotta finish "New Job" and then that will be it. Game over. And there's so many unresolved storylines in this.

Will Max ever get to pop Lisa's cherry?
What's going to happen with Olivia and her mother? Will Max actually get to do both of them at some point?
What's going to happen with Vicky the bartender?
And finally, will the Mother ever find out that Max's is pretty much screwing everyone in the house (including her) and what will happen when she does?

SO many unresolved storylines that I would LOVE to have resolved. This is such a great game and I just want it to continue. I hope the creator can solve their issue with Crapeon and somehow finish this game cause it is the best game I have played from this site so far, up there with Dating My Daughter and I'm like Oliver Twist, "Please sir, I want some more."
 

HerpaDerpington

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LOL All we did was give him money....And how did we get that Money to give him?
By doing an incomplete job at work and telling our Boss, "hey you didn't pay me to finish the job, just do it for a month!"?



And you do realize that this attitude is going to stop that Patreon Money Train from pulling into the developer station if you keep telling the folks with the Money that they really aren't getting anything but lip service.
In time people will not patreonize you UNTIL a project is completed.
Developers need to stop thinking of Patreon as some sort of Unemployment Insurance where they can write 500 lines of code each month for a quick $2K and then dump it when something else comes along.

That attitude may make you believe you are servicing your customers....
But it's more like the way the Bull Services the Cow!
If people believe that they are not getting their money's worth, then they should definitely stop funding. I don't understand what you're saying. BB particularly has been in development for over a year and the incremental versions have been only up to 0.13. I'm not even discussing the length and/or quality of each individual update, which is a different topic altogether. By the looks of it, the v1.0 version which tends to be the Release Candidate at a rate of 1 update per month would be out in give or take 7 years from now.

If we assume this project was funded at 6k a month (which I'm fairly certain is much higher but for argument's sake I'm using this) then patrons payed 72.000$/y for a project that nominally was in alpha. If we further assume (word of the day) that it would take 7 years for this project to finish, we're looking at 576k/8y. Does this project look like something worth over half a million bucks to you? This is the only question that you really need to answer my friend.

People need to be more selective with which games they are willing to support. Just like Steam early access. Everything is a risk, but after a while you can easily discern the projects that make it and the projects that don't. Fool me once, shame on me. Fool me twice shame on you. And considering past experience with DS (Glamour which was also abandoned), I already got fooled.
 

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And my Analogy is dead on, because if he paid me for a year to do something I had better finish it before the year was out or he would likely fire me!
LOL. This is stupid. Nobody paid an employee a year's worth of salary in advance. And even if you got paid for a year, what that means is that your employer got one year's worth of work for you. Not "something I had better finish before the year" because the finish of a project depends on many different factors and not just your sheer willpower.

You paid DS for a year (assuming you are his patron from beginning), but how do you expect BB to finish? There are still so many loose ends that it would easily take 6 months or more to finish it. Your "I paid you for a year" does not equate to "it must finish in a year". If the end of BB is version 0.19, then it takes 18 months to complete, not 1 year. If he introduced more new storylines, then it will take even longer than 18 months. Still not 1 year.

It baffles me how petty some people can be. It's like going to a fancy restaurant and pay $300 steak and then complain that you could've got three hundred $1 tacos instead. It's your own free will and choice to be a patron and to spend what kind of money. If you can't afford $40/month pledge for DS, then don't pledge.
 

Skylaroo

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People need to be more selective with which games they are willing to support.
And on top of this, people need to be comfortable with the tier-level of their pledge. They need to understand that their pledge is essentially a one-way donation to the creator. If money is an issue, do not pledge. Only pledge what you can afford and be comfortable if you don't see any return. Just like tipping a waiting staff at the restaurant. It's a thank you for your work. It's not a you work for me now because I gave you money.
 

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heyhooo.... first i have to say best game i´ve ever played. i´m playing this game only with walkthrough without cheats (hardcore but i will make it ^^) my question is there still the homeworkbug in the last update or do i still need this nod to fix it ?
 

a1fox3

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heyhooo.... first i have to say best game i´ve ever played. i´m playing this game only with walkthrough without cheats (hardcore but i will make it ^^) my question is there still the homeworkbug in the last update or do i still need this nod to fix it ?
There is still the homework bug but if you get Lisa spanked right after you offer your help for free you wont get the bug.
 
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Alfius

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Well that`s true, on the other hand you can`t get the game without pledging(legally, not pirating). So it`s kinda buying the game itself, it`s not all black and white to be fair... Supporting the dev would be the donation system for a game that he gives out for free, not this whole patreon thing. This pledges are more like encouraging them to actually do/finish something you like and it`s in the early phases of development. So after you are pledged for about 1-2 years, you kinda want a finished product for all that money, otherwise you can even look at it as some sort of scam.

And this is more on a general level, not just DS/BB:
I`m no dev, I don`t really know what goes on in making a game, but: Why would someone need employees, as long as they take 1 month for an update which contains... let`s say 150 images. You, as a creator, allready know the story and how you want to put it, story wise it would not take that much time to write the update. There are not even that many "lines" to write. Do you really need almost a month for coding and rendering 150 images? Maybe if you`re alone...
When you add employees I would expect updates more often, or the monthy updates to be actually big, not the same as before. I really do feel like most creators are just looking to take as much money for the longest time possible, not actually doing/finishing something worthy, that him and his fans would be fond of. :(

Sorry I just had to reply to you.

So the average person in a western Country works: 8 hours x 20 days = 160 hours per month.

According to what I see in the fan art section it can take 1 hour plus for a single render (Pros, please correct me.)
so for renders alone that is already 150 hours.
Now he still needs to pose his 3d models, I have no idea how long that takes, but I can not imagine that will be 5 minutes.
Then he still work on his plot and and writing. I'm sure that only takes 5 minutes....(not!)
There needs to be testing involved and debugging and debugging and writing actual code in unity. that must surely also only take 5 minutes.

Come on man!! Your dream of doing this work alone without working like a slave seems to be lacking some rudimentary math skills.
 

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If anyone has saves before each event or sex scene please upload the saves.I pass some of events and i dont have time but i want to see them all.@ If you have the saves please upload them.
 
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