tom-poolman

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need help please: I really mess something up. This is my last safe file ( file save26) Im in 830th day and I didnt even close in progress in game near yours file Save31: , and when I copy file from you then I see that there is much more option in game.... Where I did wrong?!
 

thebrother1234

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I have done everything thing in the game except progress with mom. When Kira left her room it gave me the option to ask to sleep with mom, but I didn't pick it because Kira warned me that it would be too soon. Now the option isn't there at all! How do I get it so that I can finally get with mom!
 

Asphyx

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I raised this concern when Glamour was first announced and I'm very skeptical about these grand claims as well. It just doesn't seem possible to flesh out a city full of unique characters who can also change their personalities and behaviors with the way this dev team approached BB. There's only so many renders they can do, which like you said either limits them to a few deeper characters or many characters with limited interaction, or a 10 year development (which may be just the dairy cow they're looking for).

The BB household was only 8 people, including the minor characters like Eric, Olivia and Kate, but really only 4 lead characters, and they BARELY developed any of them. These are paper thin characters who don't behave consistently, don't grow or evolve in a realistic way, and don't have any motivations outside of sex and money. I can't see them being able to create believable, independent characters on a much larger scale, and to also have those characters be changed based on player interaction.

Here is my original post and DS response:





I think he mistakenly thought believable characters was equivalent to characters people were invested in. But they're not the same thing at all, and their claims about Glamour indicate they are going to create multiple believable characters with fully fleshed out independent lives, who also grow and change based on MC interactions. I just don't see that as being even remotely realistic based on what we saw from BB.
I regret that I can only like that post just once!
Spot on with the way I think regarding what Glamour will eventually be.

The only thing that may help him here is that he will not be dealing with Incest storylines which seems to be a big problem for him creatively. He would say "I Try to make family LOVE/ROMANCE each other but it is HARD for me" all I can surmise is he is an Orphan, came from a loveless family or the victim of actual parental sexual abuse.

The Family seemed to tolerate each other more than love each other. And that I suppose might work in Glamour because they will all be strangers. But I still can't see tham adding more than one NPC per month and even then I don't see after 4 months go by that the first NPC added will get any new content because this team has never showed the output to keep up with a housefull let alone a city full.
 
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sivertop

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strange no one yet saw that the developer said big brother is finished and that he moved on to a new project and its not mentioned here..

this game is not on hold its done.
also to be honest it was a good decision from the creator, this game was a complete mess at the end of the game multiple workstations because of new ideas and so on..some of that what i just wrote was also mentioned by the creator.

anyway im really looking forward to his new project which should be out soon, i loved his art (girls)
 

Shades19

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Whats annoying is spending several months on the game and having it end like that is a slap to the face.

Especially when we wont be able to see actual Vicky or Eve content. They were basically introduced placeholders.
 
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JohnPonn

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strange no one yet saw that the developer said big brother is finished and that he moved on to a new project and its not mentioned here..
This game is not on hold its done.
also to be honest it was a good decision from the creator, this game was a complete mess at the end of the game multiple workstations because of new ideas and so on..some of that what i just wrote was also mentioned by the creator.
Anyway im really looking forward to his new project which should be out soon, i loved his art (girls)
Unlike you some of us have better and more reliable information.
I take DarkSilvers own words over anyone else any day. He has said this on his Discord so it's straight from the horse mouth..

"As the issues with Pateron can't be solved at this point there will be no development of BB for the time beeing.
It's put (On Hold). We regret this but the risks are to high and we have to move focus to a new project, Glamour.
Rest asure tho we are working on getting our own website up and running. We are currently short staffed so it will take some time but it will happen."

With Patreon breathing down his neck he won't give anyone more information about the new website.
He hinted many times that we should stop worrie about BB characters and the future of BB.
I could post screens from the Discord but i think anyone who wants to know can just vist there and ask themselves.
And if you got your information from Patreon.. Well.. I pretty much just explained the situation so he will post what he think is safe for now.
 

CunningPig

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I regret that I can only like that post just once!
Spot on with the way I think regarding what Glamour will eventually be.

The only thing that may help him here is that he will not be dealing with Incest storylines which seems to be a big problem for him creatively. He would say "I Try to make family LOVE/ROMANCE each other but it is HARD for me" all I can surmise is he is an Orphan, came from a loveless family or the victim of actual parental sexual abuse.

The Family seemed to tolerate each other more than love each other. And that I suppose might work in Glamour because they will all be strangers. But I still can't see tham adding more than one NPC per month and even then I don't see after 4 months go by that the first NPC added will get any new content because this team has never showed the output to keep up with a housefull let alone a city full.
I've seen that mentioned several times in this thread, so I have to concede that maybe it will make a difference that he's not working with an incest story. At least maybe the stories will be more genuine and believable if that was what was hindering them from being so in BB. But like you and DawnCry said, the rate at which this team produces new content is just nowhere near enough to keep up with the ambitious vision they have for Glamour. IMHO.
 
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monk61

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im trying to get past the whole female protagonist thing, im genuinely quite put off by it, but im certainly looking forward to seeing what DS does with it, as for actual storylines, the comedy of russian to english in itself is worth a single playthrough
 

RobertDeNero

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Sorry I just had to reply to you.

So the average person in a western Country works: 8 hours x 20 days = 160 hours per month.

According to what I see in the fan art section it can take 1 hour plus for a single render (Pros, please correct me.)
so for renders alone that is already 150 hours.
Now he still needs to pose his 3d models, I have no idea how long that takes, but I can not imagine that will be 5 minutes.
Then he still work on his plot and and writing. I'm sure that only takes 5 minutes....(not!)
There needs to be testing involved and debugging and debugging and writing actual code in unity. that must surely also only take 5 minutes.

Come on man!! Your dream of doing this work alone without working like a slave seems to be lacking some rudimentary math skills.
Isnt it the same problem with Summertime Saga?
 

Snugglepuff

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Whats annoying is spending several months on the game and having it end like that is a slap to the face.
Well, that's Patreon's crackdown for you.
Just as we're getting to one of the two most requested advances in the game, BOOM! Down comes the anti-incest hammer from Patreon (probably from Paypal threatening the purse strings).

Especially when we wont be able to see actual Vicky or Eve content. They were basically introduced placeholders.
Well, circumstances being different, we'd probably have banged Olivia & her mother, gotten more Kira content and taken Lisa's virginity before either of those two got a substantial update content wise.
Patron votes dictated the last two updates and their direction, and over all patrons weren't too enthused with those two characters. That's also the reason why it was so long since there'd been anything added as far as Olivia goes, even though it's entirely incompatible with her earlier content as an alternative GF to Lisa.
 
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tsteak07

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i'm stuck :( i've haven't progressed for weeks. anyone please help. i'm to the point where mom is supposed to go to a studio with all women and be excited for me when she comes home but it doens't progress. also, i've only had one sex ed lesson with Lisa and don't know how to progress. all moods are at awesome. please help.
 

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i'm stuck :( i've haven't progressed for weeks. anyone please help. i'm to the point where mom is supposed to go to a studio with all women and be excited for me when she comes home but it doens't progress. also, i've only had one sex ed lesson with Lisa and don't know how to progress. all moods are at awesome. please help.
Wrong thread, please go here for help:
 

Ziraf

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what is the end of ver13 ? is it alice record mom and max at lounge have sex? or is it there is another scene ? thx in advance
 

Snugglepuff

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what is the end of ver13 ? is it alice record mom and max at lounge have sex? or is it there is another scene ? thx in advance
There's a fair bit more, sort of similar to the Max/Alice/Lisa content.
:HINT: When making breakfast, early night time, the bathroom...
 
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berny

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There's a new public post about the poll results, there won't be a male MC, at least not in the beginning.



Our previous poll about choosing your character's gender is more or less finished. Over 2400 people have voted and about 36% want to be able to choose main character's gender. I think it's safe to talk about the results now.
As some of you already know, our new game Glamour is a remake of my first game. I came up with the idea in June 2015, and I've put a lot of thought into the game's story over the years. Adapting some parts for a male protagonist would be very complicated.

Technically, we can add the option to play as any character in the game. Theoretically, we could even add Max's family into the game and you'd be able to play as him, one of his sisters, Ann or Kira. But of course we're not planning to do this in the foreseeable future, and we're definitely not doing it on Patreon.

But Glamour was always envisioned as Kate's story. She's the point of view character who tries to make it in a big city and sometimes gets into sticky situations to get out of. It's an interesting story, and I want to tell it to you, but it wouldn't be possible with a male protagonist without significant changes.

When I started working on Big Brother, I added Eric as the Big Bad the players were supposed to overcome. Of course, that meant I couldn't add an option to get rid of him right at the start in 0.1. So in the very beginning on the game he was temporarily completely unbeatable, which pissed off a lot of players who wrongly assumed I'm into NTR and Eric is going to fuck everything in sight, while Max will be hiding in the closet and jerking off wearing a Superman costume or something. A lot of people got really upset at Eric because they assumed the game will never have an option to get rid of him. I decided to appease the players and made him more tame. Ultimately, I think it hurt the game because he wasn't threatening enough and turned out to be more of an annoyance than a proper antagonist.

I can't make everyone happy, so I'll just try to realize my vision of the game and hope people will like the result. I understand that some people really want to see male protagonist and they might decide to leave. A lot of people already left. But I'm sure when we'll show people how good our game is, a lot of people will return and even more people will want to play our game because it's going to be very special.

Some things aren't set in stone, we're still going to have polls because I care about your opinion. But the main plot of the game is not one of those things.


Personally, I think that's a good thing. One problem of BB was, that DS clearly wasn't very enthusiastic about the game, partially because it wasn't "his" game anymore. He definitely seems more invested in Glamour, although it's far too early to have an opinion about the game. It wouldn't have been the best start to the game if he had been forced to add a whole new MC he doesn't really care about.
 
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