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I never understand how people could think Eric is OP. With the exception of dating Ann (technically can be countered by getting rid of him now), we can counter everything he does:
1. Eric took over Lisa's sex-ed. Counter with taking a photo of him jerking off to Alice.
2. Eric had sex with Kira. Counter with giving away Alice, or with Wallet opportunity. Completely avoidable if never triggered.
3. Eric had sex with Alice. Counter with Wallet opportunity. Completely avoidable if not sacrificed to save Kira.

He comes in quickly, sure, but delaying his entry would only drag the introduction part of the game which doesn't serve much purpose. I didn't see much difference between him as Ann's charming manager or him as an old friend. The background story for Ann's obedience is her traumatic past. Eric being a new guy charming his way in to her life is completely acceptable and believable.
Frankly I don't understand too , after 0.2 , I got problem in trying to lose the game. I remember alot of ppl asking for the alice-eric massage and eric-alice punishment scenes. I didn't know we have that scene like many of them , and I realized from the help ppl post in the forum , u really gotto "try and lose hard" for that scenes. Ironically u can blunder your way to counter Eric , but u have to "try hard" to lose to Eric. And ppl still complaining that Eric is OP...funny. I guess like @summerjo say it be a visual novel where u click next to see sex scenes and some ppl like that, I do understand the mentality of no hassle sex scenes but I be real sad to see a real game got go down to a visual novel like so many start up out there...

He is a successful villain like you said, but only because he's a villain that gets the job done, as in generates the hate he's SUPPOSED to generate, but by no means is he a great one. A simple villain's job is to generate hate, as anyone can hate a villain, but great ones generate controversy and Eric isn't the cause of BB's controversy, as stupid as that sounds. It's the everlasting argument of NTR that's the cause and Eric was made to be the blatant epitome of the genre by straight up telling you he's gonna cuck the fuck outta you(lol that sentence made me chuckle), which people take obvious offense to and didn't see coming due to the listed genres. The topic just happens to be BB so Eric is made the target of discussion. People hate NTR, by extension, people hate Eric. Not because he's a great villain to hate, but because he's a product of the genre that people despise which creates discussion.
I don't think I wanna be drawn in to a discussion on whether u hate Hitler or the atrocities he done.. that will be yes like you say , its as stupid as that sound. And 2ndly , "cuck the fuck outta Max or me" not "you", you think you are Max , I don't , I am just playing a game where the game MC is Max.

Yes NTR , sorry to bring back NTR again , but NTR really need some explanation. NTR simply mean the act of "stealing" someone away from another that the 2 actually have a pre-existing intimate relation. Someone tried to post "loved ones" as justification of NTR , NOPE!!! If a sis got married , the brother did not get NTRed by his brother-in-law , thats dumb and not how it works.
BUT if the bro and sis got an incestous relation beforehand , then it up for discussion. You can only be "STOLEN" on what you "HAVE" in the first place.
What NTR is NOT is , The person you wanna have sex or relation with hitching with another person. And that person didn't cuck you. If thats NTR cuck , every college guy will be NTRed cucks. I wanna have sex with all Victoria Secrets Angels , and Miss Universe contestants every year, and thats means ppl cuck NTR me every year? Thats dumb beyond understanding.

In BB start Max got no extra siblings relations with anyone , in fact , like @TC said , Max is trying to be an Eric and screw everyone in the family and thats Eric's aim too. Its a flat out race start to see who achieve that first. We can discuss how OP Eric is in the game mechanics , but no he didn't NTR shitz from Max. In fact if Max lose to him , which the game allowed , Max can NTR eric's prizes from him from behind. But if you are ahead , I haven seen any way Eric can NTR shitz from Max.

In fact the Eric and Ann is an item together from the start , Max is supposed to to break up and steal Ann from Eric , now that IS NTR.
Helping Lisa and Alex together by seducing Olivia , Alex did not NTR Lisa (thats so dumb) , but seducing Olivia from Alex so Max break them up and help Lisa and Alex together IS definitely NTR on Max part. I am tired of ppl using NTR tag as label for "Why I don't get to screw this girl but he can"
And 180++ pages , all the "holier than thou" anti NTR activists ranting that NTR ruin the game , any1 that support NTR is perverse beyond redemption and even curses that NTR fall upon ppl IRL if you so much as to support NTR , there is not a single post condemning the this only 2 real NTR act in the game from Max , None , Zero ..
Don't get me wrong , I got respect for everyone's fantasy as long as they know where to draw the line, in fact theres a few post saying they are okie with NTR as long as they are the one doing it and they don't like to be NTRed ,that is 100% legit and I understand that.
What really riles me the countless of so called anti NTR activists misusing the label NTR to attack content (if they do not get to screw everyone without competition) and accepting NTR with glee as long as they are the one doing it (they get to screw everyone without competition)
You just wanna be the dude that screw everyone without competition just say it.(I got no issue with that), but don't pretend you are a some kinda of knight of anti NTR when all you want is just to screw everyone (NTR or not).
 
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Skylaroo

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I do understand the mentality of no hassle sex scenes
I actually don't understand that mentality. I always think it's much easier to watch porn instead. Alternately, just go through the ripped image folders if people simply want to see the pictures. The fact that it's made a game and people chose to play it, I feel like there should be some interactivity instead of just mindlessly clicking through pictures.

Kudos on the NTR explanation too. 100% agree that a lot of people just have no idea what it is and misused the term.
 

Venee

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When will have new version ? this game have a huge potential, but i think the developers must add more choices about the storyline and also i think more chaces for Seduction your sisters, mom and aunt .. i dont know :)
 

Varimatras

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next version comes early July, around the 2nd, just look at his Patreon site and hope that someone gives it to us as always ;)

yeah more options should be comin, especially ways to seduce not just to trick or force and some possibilities to see whats happening to Lisa with Eric and Mom or Alice's Punishments... its somewhat lame that you can spy on everyone at almost everytime, even watch Eric and Mom doing it if your going that way, but then...impossible garnished with fear of beeing caught and getting punished himself...thats crazy doublestandard.
 

balabasuu

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If "NTR" is when someone breaks the relationship between lovers, seduces someone from these people to be a lover with one of them. Then I do not see "NTR" here, in the game.
Anna and Eric? Eric uses Anna's disease to steal the house.
Katya and Alika? Their relationship is the relationship between the slave and the owner.
Liza and Alex "on the road Olivia"? I know little about this storyline. Suppose there is an "NTR", but if you go on the road "Olivia", but I did not choose this path, and for this reason I did not see "NTR" in the game.
Maybe I have a bad definition of "NTR", well, then write what it is and, preferably, a link to the article.
 

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If "NTR" is when someone breaks the relationship between lovers, seduces someone from these people to be a lover with one of them. Then I do not see "NTR" here, in the game.
Anna and Eric? Eric uses Anna's disease to steal the house.
Katya and Alika? Their relationship is the relationship between the slave and the owner.
Liza and Alex "on the road Olivia"? I know little about this storyline. Suppose there is an "NTR", but if you go on the road "Olivia", but I did not choose this path, and for this reason I did not see "NTR" in the game.
Maybe I have a bad definition of "NTR", well, then write what it is and, preferably, a link to the article.
Found a post on Patreon, that i copied earlier about NTR.
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Found a post on Patreon, that i copied earlier about NTR.
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Based on your definition, it turns out that "Netnorara" (NTR) does not exist at all in this version of the game.
I can justify my conclusion, for those who saw "Netorare" and will show an example from the game.
I add from myself: "Jealousy" is jealousy. I do not understand why the word "jealousy" is replaced by a bunch of other words, as in the example of "Netnorar." And if you are looking for "jealousy" in the game, then this in the game a lot. For example, Eric is a walking motive of jealousy in the game. Katia and Alex also provoke jealousy, not allowing the player to own sisters. But that's all, if you forget about the definition that was written in the comment above.
 
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balabasuu

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From the few previews so far, the next update looks to very interesting.
Do you think that on the road "forget Alex" you can go to the shower with Lisa and fuck her there, judging by the picture in the shower? That would be wonderful! On Friday, no one will be in the house until 3 o'clock in the morning. Yes! Definitely, Friday will be fun!
... I think that my dreams will remain a dream. I'm sure Dars Silver will not even let me see what Lisa does in the room on the weekends, when it's impossible to enter the room or peek ...
 

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Based on your definition, it turns out that "Netnorara" (NTR) does not exist at all in this version of the game.
I can justify my conclusion, for those who saw "Netorare" and will show an example from the game.
I add from myself: "Jealousy" is jealousy. I do not understand why the word "jealousy" is replaced by a bunch of other words, as in the example of "Netnorar." And if you are looking for "jealousy" in the game, then this in the game a lot. For example, Eric is a walking motive of jealousy in the game. Katia and Alex also provoke jealousy, not allowing the player to own sisters. But that's all, if you forget about the definition that was written in the comment above.
You are correct, NTR didn't even existed in this game.
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TBH, people often mixes up Netorare with "Jealousy". Netorare is a Japanese term similar to cuckold. In order to have Netorare, the person engaging in sexual activity with a third party should be already been in a relationship with the party that was being NTRed. Since Max is not having a relationship with any women in the household in the beginning, this can only be a case of jealousy and competition, but not NTR.
Afterall, the reason why people are complaining so much about it is, as I have said before, is the thought of not willing to share the sex with other parties like swingers. This a quite a traditional domination "Alpha" thought that those people bear. And they often cannot realise it and blame it to be NTR, which is not in this case at all.
 

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Do you think that on the road "forget Alex" you can go to the shower with Lisa and fuck her there, judging by the picture in the shower? That would be wonderful! On Friday, no one will be in the house until 3 o'clock in the morning. Yes! Definitely, Friday will be fun!
... I think that my dreams will remain a dream. I'm sure Dars Silver will not even let me see what Lisa does in the room on the weekends, when it's impossible to enter the room or peek ...
Hehe, the shower pic could be a new version of the old bathroom scene where she now might let you in. But it could just stop there with watching as DarkSilver has done with other scenes before(mom changing clothes). Or like you said it could be further down the line of boyfriend route. But according to Kira you are not allowed to have sex with Lisa without her present. :p Since this is a another Lisa update, I hope that you can now have fun with Lisa in shower. And how fast Max progressed with Lisa the during the last update, sex might a possibility. We shall see.
 
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Hehe, the shower pic could be a new version of the old bathroom scene where she now might let you in. But it could just stop there with watching as DarkSilver has done with other scenes before(mom changing clothes). Or like you said it could be further down the line of boyfriend route. But according to Kira you are not allowed to have sex with Lisa without her present. :p Since this is a another Lisa update, I hope that you can now have fun with Lisa in shower. And how fast Max progressed with Lisa the during the last update, sex might a possibility. We shall see.
The emergence of a new skill "sex" makes me hope for the best!
 
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Tbh one thing he needs to focus on and that will piss some people off because it takes time and doesn't give many scenes is the coherence. Sister let's you watch her topless, but doesn't let you in on her room in the weekend when she's just wearing panties... mom let's you massage her naked, but don't you dare try to see her naked in the shower at night... Older sister let's you watch her cam shows and her naked top in the pool but don't you dare walk in on her changing her top...

Small little events and small little aspects but it would really bright up the game to see all of these small little things added. So you really see a progress in the house at all times instead of just seeing the progress when you start a new step of an opportunity.
 
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