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Skylaroo
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I never understand how people could think Eric is OP. With the exception of dating Ann (technically can be countered by getting rid of him now), we can counter everything he does:
1. Eric took over Lisa's sex-ed. Counter with taking a photo of him jerking off to Alice.
2. Eric had sex with Kira. Counter with giving away Alice, or with Wallet opportunity. Completely avoidable if never triggered.
3. Eric had sex with Alice. Counter with Wallet opportunity. Completely avoidable if not sacrificed to save Kira.
He comes in quickly, sure, but delaying his entry would only drag the introduction part of the game which doesn't serve much purpose. I didn't see much difference between him as Ann's charming manager or him as an old friend. The background story for Ann's obedience is her traumatic past. Eric being a new guy charming his way in to her life is completely acceptable and believable.
lWFDl
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Exactly my thoughts! Only thing about that is, that you have to figure out how to counter this events! And that's the interesting thing about Eric.
I will amend my comment about voyeurism, as you are correct. To a game centered on voyerism. As to over powered, the thought is based on the influence numbers he generates for little interaction vs max influence numbers
I would suggest part of that is perhaps based on a lack of development in the war with Eric branch. Regardless if you hit the patreon page, the complaint is the lack of impact you make in the game. Tell me how making the bulk of your consumers feel impotent is a wise choice. I guess that is why people are calling it NTL (?). Not to many situations where this dynamic is a winner? I also find it interesting how casually people here pass off the patreons. Without people like me dropping 100s of dollars on him there would not be a game
Sobi feel I have the right to influence the game, he'll he flat sold that right. Pay 40 and support your vision.
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If DS makes a new version without Eric, please let me know because I would really like to play. The game has the most beautiful women besides an excellent look, but for me what is worth it, would be to be with all of you to fight for my rights too. Of course for those who warn me. My greatest thanks.Good luck for all.
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you can even completly counter this one easily also .... in my save game i never triggered in blog opportunity part when i must buy lingerie to her - so eric even dont get chance to give her gifts (gift part from eric to alice follow after this step). And if you dont even trigger sacrifice - he cant do nothing to alice also. I just get rid of him before i continue with blogger and my sisters was saved and he will be out of the house before he start something with alice/lisa/kira.
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wrong - i think that eric is very easily avoidable in corrupting part. Just make photo - let him have lisa and in same day blackmail him with photo and he cant do much with her. Kira - easy - just dont trigger sacrifice oportunity. And Alice - as i say in previous post you can even counter gifting part from him. And because now you have options to get rid of him Eric is weak. The only one who will be corrupted before he is gone is you mom - but as i said - they are engaged - and yes they have sex like any other dating/engaged/married couple.
Peeps will never agree on Eric, I am not anti- Eric, just don't like the content balance. As for the OP... the numbers were posted. Eric was like 40% per event, max was less than half. Of course since you got nothing to do all day it is manageable, just grindy. As forvrelationship, old friend had a job offer for her. I deal with victims and mentally ill, so i am more critical of how she is portrayed
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I would really like if there is an option to play Eric, then we can see the whole fun of being Eric! 
Big problem is we are trying to apply reasonable standards to a rediculous situation. Anyone think three teens are going to calmly agree to naked spankings. For me this is a sex game. As a game I should be actively impacting game. If not I can read a comic, watch a porn etc. The war with Eric option rewards me with less sexual involvement, more voyerism. I could get a lot more of everything by not playing. So I want Max to drive more of the action and be directly involved in outcome. Not a victim, not passive and not a peeker
Even Eric friend line gets you screwed, eric cheats you, bullies you, and you watch almost the same stuff you get fighting him. So my votes in DS' polls will always be to advance story around Max, unless I believe another choice will get me a better story.. I stick to the game, because despite our disagreements, it is a work in progress. None of us really knows how the game will play in 6 months. I hope it will have depth, writing, story and characters.
Even Eric friend line gets you screwed, eric cheats you, bullies you, and you watch almost the same stuff you get fighting him. So my votes in DS' polls will always be to advance story around Max, unless I believe another choice will get me a better story.. I stick to the game, because despite our disagreements, it is a work in progress. None of us really knows how the game will play in 6 months. I hope it will have depth, writing, story and characters.
Hey guys, in case of Eric fucks Alice, is it possible to watch the scene or it 's not included? it always gives the choice of "Leave".
Skylaroo
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Really? Influence number? The very same number that is easily kept low just by Max being nice and helpful? Influence number matters most for the game over trigger in the game. How many people actually got game over for this game?
It's not about casually passing off the patrons. It's about DS making the game for the majority voters on his patreon. I appreciate you paying $40. But if someone else also pays $40 and a minority in the voting, that means they paid $40 and didn't actually get the direction of the game that they wanted. This is the reality of patreon-based game that is developed based on voting results.
So now the problem is the lack of content, right? Because you got nothing to do all day. Instead of doing dishes or helping with homework, people somehow magically seem to think that clicking the Wait button is a much better option as if that's okay.
Hey, guys, I don't know if it is asked before but since there are 185 pages I just couldn't find it. So I am having problems with saving the game. It just not saves it. Also when I try to use savegames that I downloaded from this website, continue button is not active on the starting screen. By the way, yes there is a "Save" folder in the directory of the game. Thanks in advance.
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What is in the Save folder? The Files start always with save0.save..save1.save it doesn't matter what name and day they have in the game.
Frankly I don't understand too , after 0.2 , I got problem in trying to lose the game. I remember alot of ppl asking for the alice-eric massage and eric-alice punishment scenes. I didn't know we have that scene like many of them , and I realized from the help ppl post in the forum , u really gotto "try and lose hard" for that scenes. Ironically u can blunder your way to counter Eric , but u have to "try hard" to lose to Eric. And ppl still complaining that Eric is OP...funny. I guess like @summerjo say it be a visual novel where u click next to see sex scenes and some ppl like that, I do understand the mentality of no hassle sex scenes but I be real sad to see a real game got go down to a visual novel like so many start up out there...
I don't think I wanna be drawn in to a discussion on whether u hate Hitler or the atrocities he done.. that will be yes like you say , its as stupid as that sound. And 2ndly , "cuck the fuck outta Max or me" not "you", you think you are Max , I don't , I am just playing a game where the game MC is Max.
Yes NTR , sorry to bring back NTR again , but NTR really need some explanation. NTR simply mean the act of "stealing" someone away from another that the 2 actually have a pre-existing intimate relation. Someone tried to post "loved ones" as justification of NTR , NOPE!!! If a sis got married , the brother did not get NTRed by his brother-in-law , thats dumb and not how it works.
BUT if the bro and sis got an incestous relation beforehand , then it up for discussion. You can only be "STOLEN" on what you "HAVE" in the first place.
What NTR is NOT is , The person you wanna have sex or relation with hitching with another person. And that person didn't cuck you. If thats NTR cuck , every college guy will be NTRed cucks. I wanna have sex with all Victoria Secrets Angels , and Miss Universe contestants every year, and thats means ppl cuck NTR me every year? Thats dumb beyond understanding.
In BB start Max got no extra siblings relations with anyone , in fact , like @TC said , Max is trying to be an Eric and screw everyone in the family and thats Eric's aim too. Its a flat out race start to see who achieve that first. We can discuss how OP Eric is in the game mechanics , but no he didn't NTR shitz from Max. In fact if Max lose to him , which the game allowed , Max can NTR eric's prizes from him from behind. But if you are ahead , I haven seen any way Eric can NTR shitz from Max.
In fact the Eric and Ann is an item together from the start , Max is supposed to to break up and steal Ann from Eric , now that IS NTR.
Helping Lisa and Alex together by seducing Olivia , Alex did not NTR Lisa (thats so dumb) , but seducing Olivia from Alex so Max break them up and help Lisa and Alex together IS definitely NTR on Max part. I am tired of ppl using NTR tag as label for "Why I don't get to screw this girl but he can"
And 180++ pages , all the "holier than thou" anti NTR activists ranting that NTR ruin the game , any1 that support NTR is perverse beyond redemption and even curses that NTR fall upon ppl IRL if you so much as to support NTR , there is not a single post condemning the this only 2 real NTR act in the game from Max , None , Zero ..
Don't get me wrong , I got respect for everyone's fantasy as long as they know where to draw the line, in fact theres a few post saying they are okie with NTR as long as they are the one doing it and they don't like to be NTRed ,that is 100% legit and I understand that.
What really riles me the countless of so called anti NTR activists misusing the label NTR to attack content (if they do not get to screw everyone without competition) and accepting NTR with glee as long as they are the one doing it (they get to screw everyone without competition)
You just wanna be the dude that screw everyone without competition just say it.(I got no issue with that), but don't pretend you are a some kinda of knight of anti NTR when all you want is just to screw everyone (NTR or not).
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