Skylaroo

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Fundementally the issues always comes back to the issue that Eric is overpowered or underdeveloped, depends on your view. Regardless, the struggle with Eric was unrewarding to most of the players. Some of the OP Eric is simply the time compression in a game. It has been pointed out that he comes in quickly etc, well the game time makes it almost a given that he will impact the family in days or weeks. Story wise, they could of made Eric an old friend of the mother, some form of prior relationship would of helped. But the anti-eric crowd would still understandably argue that fighting him was not worth the trouble. This made the entire game about voyeurism, which most of his patrons did not want and DS was not selling.
I never understand how people could think Eric is OP. With the exception of dating Ann (technically can be countered by getting rid of him now), we can counter everything he does:
1. Eric took over Lisa's sex-ed. Counter with taking a photo of him jerking off to Alice.
2. Eric had sex with Kira. Counter with giving away Alice, or with Wallet opportunity. Completely avoidable if never triggered.
3. Eric had sex with Alice. Counter with Wallet opportunity. Completely avoidable if not sacrificed to save Kira.

He comes in quickly, sure, but delaying his entry would only drag the introduction part of the game which doesn't serve much purpose. I didn't see much difference between him as Ann's charming manager or him as an old friend. The background story for Ann's obedience is her traumatic past. Eric being a new guy charming his way in to her life is completely acceptable and believable.
 

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I never understand how people could think Eric is OP. With the exception of dating Ann (technically can be countered by getting rid of him now), we can counter everything he does:
1. Eric took over Lisa's sex-ed. Counter with taking a photo of him jerking off to Alice.
2. Eric had sex with Kira. Counter with giving away Alice, or with Wallet opportunity. Completely avoidable if never triggered.
3. Eric had sex with Alice. Counter with Wallet opportunity. Completely avoidable if not sacrificed to save Kira.

He comes in quickly, sure, but delaying his entry would only drag the introduction part of the game which doesn't serve much purpose. I didn't see much difference between him as Ann's charming manager or him as an old friend. The background story for Ann's obedience is her traumatic past. Eric being a new guy charming his way in to her life is completely acceptable and believable.
Exactly my thoughts! Only thing about that is, that you have to figure out how to counter this events! And that's the interesting thing about Eric.
 

Thjis

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Exactly my thoughts! Only thing about that is, that you have to figure out how to counter this events! And that's the interesting thing about Eric.
I will amend my comment about voyeurism, as you are correct. To a game centered on voyerism. As to over powered, the thought is based on the influence numbers he generates for little interaction vs max influence numbers
I would suggest part of that is perhaps based on a lack of development in the war with Eric branch. Regardless if you hit the patreon page, the complaint is the lack of impact you make in the game. Tell me how making the bulk of your consumers feel impotent is a wise choice. I guess that is why people are calling it NTL (?). Not to many situations where this dynamic is a winner? I also find it interesting how casually people here pass off the patreons. Without people like me dropping 100s of dollars on him there would not be a game
Sobi feel I have the right to influence the game, he'll he flat sold that right. Pay 40 and support your vision.
 
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Carlo S

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If DS makes a new version without Eric, please let me know because I would really like to play. The game has the most beautiful women besides an excellent look, but for me what is worth it, would be to be with all of you to fight for my rights too. Of course for those who warn me. My greatest thanks.Good luck for all.
 

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3. Eric had sex with Alice. Counter with Wallet opportunity. Completely avoidable if not sacrificed to save Kira.
you can even completly counter this one easily also .... in my save game i never triggered in blog opportunity part when i must buy lingerie to her - so eric even dont get chance to give her gifts (gift part from eric to alice follow after this step). And if you dont even trigger sacrifice - he cant do nothing to alice also. I just get rid of him before i continue with blogger and my sisters was saved and he will be out of the house before he start something with alice/lisa/kira.
 

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The only thing I dislike about Eric is that there not much you can do to counter Eric and corrupt your family to your side. Didn't mind Eric in the game even when he said he'll kick my ass or fuck my family, Max's family treats Max like a perverted creep for the most part which he is actually is. Even if he was a nice guy I would have still tried to go for Ann and NTR'ed him so I don't see a problem of him trying to do what any perverted guy would do by trying to sleep with the entire family.

Using cheats and raising your relation and domination with your family to max and lowering Eric's relation and domination to zero still does jack shit. Gameplay kinda sucks in this game, hope him focusing on skills give more of an impact to choices.

Right now I had him dealt with but I hope when the game finishes or gets at least double the current content, I'll give going against him a shot if there is a complete route to his story.
wrong - i think that eric is very easily avoidable in corrupting part. Just make photo - let him have lisa and in same day blackmail him with photo and he cant do much with her. Kira - easy - just dont trigger sacrifice oportunity. And Alice - as i say in previous post you can even counter gifting part from him. And because now you have options to get rid of him Eric is weak. The only one who will be corrupted before he is gone is you mom - but as i said - they are engaged - and yes they have sex like any other dating/engaged/married couple.
 

Thjis

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Peeps will never agree on Eric, I am not anti- Eric, just don't like the content balance. As for the OP... the numbers were posted. Eric was like 40% per event, max was less than half. Of course since you got nothing to do all day it is manageable, just grindy. As forvrelationship, old friend had a job offer for her. I deal with victims and mentally ill, so i am more critical of how she is portrayed
 
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KenjiDoragon

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Why i hate Eric? first time i saw him i thought he just focus on mom, when talking he said he want fuck Lisa and Alice and become Alpha and its fine with me but why the fuck not included Max, that why i hate Eric XD
 
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Thjis

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Big problem is we are trying to apply reasonable standards to a rediculous situation. Anyone think three teens are going to calmly agree to naked spankings. For me this is a sex game. As a game I should be actively impacting game. If not I can read a comic, watch a porn etc. The war with Eric option rewards me with less sexual involvement, more voyerism. I could get a lot more of everything by not playing. So I want Max to drive more of the action and be directly involved in outcome. Not a victim, not passive and not a peeker
Even Eric friend line gets you screwed, eric cheats you, bullies you, and you watch almost the same stuff you get fighting him. So my votes in DS' polls will always be to advance story around Max, unless I believe another choice will get me a better story.. I stick to the game, because despite our disagreements, it is a work in progress. None of us really knows how the game will play in 6 months. I hope it will have depth, writing, story and characters.
 

pados1002

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Hey guys, in case of Eric fucks Alice, is it possible to watch the scene or it 's not included? it always gives the choice of "Leave".
 

Skylaroo

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As to over powered, the thought is based on the influence numbers he generates for little interaction vs max influence numbers
Really? Influence number? The very same number that is easily kept low just by Max being nice and helpful? Influence number matters most for the game over trigger in the game. How many people actually got game over for this game?

I also find it interesting how casually people here pass off the patreons. Without people like me dropping 100s of dollars on him there would not be a game
Sobi feel I have the right to influence the game, he'll he flat sold that right. Pay 40 and support your vision.
It's not about casually passing off the patrons. It's about DS making the game for the majority voters on his patreon. I appreciate you paying $40. But if someone else also pays $40 and a minority in the voting, that means they paid $40 and didn't actually get the direction of the game that they wanted. This is the reality of patreon-based game that is developed based on voting results.

Peeps will never agree on Eric, I am not anti- Eric, just don't like the content balance. As for the OP... the numbers were posted. Eric was like 40% per event, max was less than half. Of course since you got nothing to do all day it is manageable, just grindy.
So now the problem is the lack of content, right? Because you got nothing to do all day. Instead of doing dishes or helping with homework, people somehow magically seem to think that clicking the Wait button is a much better option as if that's okay.
 
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nebele

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Hey, guys, I don't know if it is asked before but since there are 185 pages I just couldn't find it. So I am having problems with saving the game. It just not saves it. Also when I try to use savegames that I downloaded from this website, continue button is not active on the starting screen. By the way, yes there is a "Save" folder in the directory of the game. Thanks in advance.
 

bllahbllub

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What is in the Save folder? The Files start always with save0.save..save1.save it doesn't matter what name and day they have in the game.
 
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