Darkaura

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If you stay Patreon on a game from start to end, you probably end up pay the same cost as many AAA games in the end.
But for a Patreon developed game, you get input into actual development that you would NEVER get on a AAA commercial game. And given the NSFW nature of what we see here, you would NEVER see that in say a game on Steam.
 

micmitja

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I have a post-wallet save day 32 that I work from on new releases, that I have no desire to repeat and am unlikely to beat. A ton of F5-F8s and a bunch of lucky rolls involved. Eric makes me want to punch an NTR fan in the face.
well hes not coming back thats important if you get rid of him :cool:, but wouldnt mind to visit him in Kate mom porn hub or what ever she got to see punishment worst than death :) and also would be good opportunity for bdsm fans there.
 
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Skylaroo

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Just passing by, but when reading some of the posts people made here, it really makes me question how different these people are than in real life. I have to admit that some of the things posted are pretty disturbing.
 

Ignazzio

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DarkCookie, Vren, DarkSilver and MrDots ALL do polls to both keep the player base happy, and determine development direction. And THAT is why they are 25% of Patreon revenue. You not getting you personal niche, kink, rocks, off is too bad - so sad. If you want mainstream go play an EA game.
Still emotional. Almost every erotic developer is doing the same so it's like 75% for those who can't make it even with polls which basically means its nothing important when it comes for game's success. It's not bad if you're not overdoing it. As a social marketing study it's valuable and gives you a lot of infos. But if you are changing whole game into hundreds of players vision it will always become dull at the end. You're assuming they wouldn't make it without playerbase opinions and to some point I can agree tho is obvious that especially in porn gaming industry they would be still successful without it. Quality can defend itself. My personal taste doesn't matter. If the game is good I can appreciate that without falling into extreme even if I'm not the target for it. It must be hard for a talented developer such as DS to find some valuable, not-biased opinions when most of the playerbase is focused on their urges. EA is meh. I pref Blizzard when it comes to mainstream.

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wow these last few pages were a bit hard to get through. Well, the entire thread is hard to get through. Its become nothing but blueball betamale fueled rage. People here seriously need to rethink their attitudes and quit taking their impotence out on others. Comments got bad at times when making adult skyrim and fallout3 mods but damn this shit is on a whole other level of virgin angst. You never saw a 400 page thread entirely devoted to hating on a mod and developer over there.

Ive probably said this before but i didnt quit this game because of a hate for eric, yes i hate him but thats the point youre supposed to hate him. I quit playing after 4 because i realized that their wasnt enough content and because of that eric was op as hell and the mechanics were completely unbalanced. Thats usually the problem with games that use stats instead of dialogue choices for direction but if you give them time they usually workout. All this game needed was time and things would have gone a better route. I get the feeling that thanks to a small group of really loud and obnoxious people instead of good writing and a solid progression we got a rushed quick fix "get rid of eric free card" and an equally rushed incest story. I cant say what happened for sure but i remember following the comments on patreon daily after 4 and it was pretty much one person who overnight with its release went from super fan to virulent asshole gathering pitchforks and torches calling for a burning at the stake because he had the patience of a hungry infant and couldnt wait a couple months or take the time to downgrade his pledge like a normal person till the game was more complete. Everybody needs to calm their tits. Opinions are fine we all get to have one but that doesnt make you right, myself included. Has DS made mistakes yes it has but that doesn't excuse the lonely guy fapper mafia that has been forming into a lynch mob against it. At this point with the way things have been it looks like its a choice between making the game as it was originally intended, i hope this one, or continue to cave and bow to harassment and hate. I think either way this game or its developer arent goin away anytime soon, thankfully, and neither are the profits. I look to the bright side and hope that maybe sites like this and talented developers like DS can come together and change the community and get it out of the shadows and away from this patreon nonsense and masseffect 3 ending style of player bitching and developer kowtowing.
 

Asphyx

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It's not really all that hard to replay the game and choose different options, or just come here to get a save file. If he "bridged" those two branches, I think the end result would be to dilute the impact of both of them. Now, I'd be fine if he created a third path that combined elements of both of the original two paths. Maybe it reuses images from both, although with different dialogue. But it could also have new images, too.

What I'd honestly love though is for the two paths to be even more distinct and separate, rather than closer. All of the characters should be slightly different because of the choices you make in the game. Olivia path Lisa should be different than girlfriend path Lisa, and end up becoming more and more involved with Max for different reasons. Maybe the Olivia version is driven by jealousy and curiosity, while the girlfriend version is more financially motivated, but it slowly turns into an honest relationship.
The grind on this game (having to even WAIT through weeks to get the next Dialogue Option you triggered) make replaying this game from the start a non-starter.

He has developed Content that exists and a good game design allows a through path that will let you see all of it.
 

labrat1469

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Have the police show up asking about Eric's whereabouts after his disappearance. Apparently Eric is wanted for questioning for various crimes.
 

Skeletor

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Get Eric in a dungeon and have a live stream of him getting raped by a donkey. While the donkey makes those weird donkey noises. Some days its a bear others a guerrilla. Thats where max should get his money from now on.

Okay Im done joking, lol.
 
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Hlextor

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Thanks guys for you warm welcome :)
I came here not to stop piracy, it's just a stupid idea.
I came to read quite opposite position to understand what people like and what they dislike mostly. Because on my patron I have a people who likes game mostly, but very little of people who dislike it.

Of course it way too late to change plot story, but I still want to have a feedback to understand what is working good and what is working not so good as planned.

However, I still do not support piracy for _my_ games :) So don't expect me to comment or provide any kind of support about it :)
Yup, found this already.
What? Did i miss something? 80% don't like BB? I don't have this impression.
 

Pinesama

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Chaos, All good here...
My issue isn't with the kink or even Eric...It's this dumb idea his fans keep claiming that Eric makes this game different and BETTER than any other game when he adds nothing, not even as much as any other character in any other game does!
To say without him this game is just a linear follow the path game is just ridiculous.
There were much better arguments to be made for having Eric in this game...I have even mentioned a few!
But unfortunately He wasn't used in that way at all.
He was merely a Binary choice....Friends and Peep, No Friends and NO PEEP!
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Joshua Tree

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But for a Patreon developed game, you get input into actual development that you would NEVER get on a AAA commercial game. And given the NSFW nature of what we see here, you would NEVER see that in say a game on Steam.
Imho, I would have probably have more influence on a early access game on steam if active with feedback, testing and suggestion. With the "tier" you need to do on Patreon to remotely have any influence, the number of AAA games you could bought would gone up considerable.

If it was all about a fap'able NSFW, I would gotten my rocks off way better just logon to my gaming community's slack and the NSFW channal there (and would cost me nothing). If more "in your face" NSFW stuff is what you after, Avenger deliver that cheap with Big Kuyash and Son of a bitch.

For me the story and setting got greater value and inpact than the images and scenes. The later should just be a support for the narrative imho. If there is little progress I tend to lose interest. I been Patreon of DS a few months and then stopped, not because the game is terrible, but because I feelt I paid to much for what I got back in term of value. I might do Patreon a month or two again in the future, but nothing really keep me from get a copy meanwhile, and I got no real bad conscience because of it.
 

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I came to read quite opposite position to understand what people like and what they dislike mostly. Because on my patron I have a people who likes game mostly, but very little of people who dislike it.

Of course it way too late to change plot story, but I still want to have a feedback to understand what is working good and what is working not so good as planned.
One of the main issues I've seen here (and have too :) ) is that Max don't use his hidden cameras beside making money at all. It would obviously require a lot of work to create extra visuals for each scene but in some cases Max could get some needed information with it.

Also, he can expand his hacking skills and intercept his girls communications, he gave Lisa special sim-card after all.

Some people (me too) were sad when rumors came that you're going to complete game at 1.0 version - the story can be much bigger that you will be able to do in two-three months :)

I personally also would like if Max slowly turned to be more courteous to his girls - after getting laid he should be smarter.

There are some hints that never was continued, like Kira's videos (including one during arrest) or story about Max's math teacher
 
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cypr

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I came to read quite opposite position to understand what people like and what they dislike mostly. Because on my patron I have a people who likes game mostly, but very little of people who dislike it.

Of course it way too late to change plot story, but I still want to have a feedback to understand what is working good and what is working not so good as planned.
that's wise, i was a patron for 3 months, even got to the 40$ bracket once and ditched it, because it's not going the way i expected and i seem to be a minority for the whole eric route

booth is working, the kinda NTR route with eric and the harem route without him
but the game did a bullshit route with stopping eric content for the last updates and going full vanilla harem incest. i don't like the opportunity getting rid of him completely, i think the anti-viagra pill was kinda better idea to keep him in check.
it was an interesting story and gameplay, now it's like clicking through porn. atm i don't even play anymore, just extracting the images and browse through them after an update.

i'm still hoping for more keeping eric content. an enemy route, in which you can build your harem and "cuck" eric (or he cucks you if you are playing wrong) and a bro route were he is kind of your mentor and gives you play
that was what i expected after 0.3/0.4 and then there was the 180° in story progress.
 

Asphyx

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The "control" opportunity is still incomplete.
Which also means it doesn't exist in the game. Perhaps it would have been better to wait to insert him until some of that was available.

Some people complain that Eric is OP but it's really not true.
With some forward planning, Max can...
Buy the swimsuit and dress before Eric does.
Prevent Eric taking over Lisa's sex-ed by having a blackmail photo ready before progressing the mentor path (and he stops peeping on Alice after that, as a bonus).
Prevent Eric from giving Alice private punishment or massage by keeping his influence low.
Prevent Eric from blackmailing Kira by waiting to do the 2nd photoshoot.
There is also the later option to get a HJ from Ann while Eric is in the bathroom, crying over his limp dick.
All of this can be done even if choosing war from the start and never being "friends" with him.
First off I will point out none of that was available until people railed against Eric being there in the first place...
And not a single thing you mentioned had to do with Max getting any sex which is kind of the point of playing a sex game. If I wanted a game that was just AVOID THE OBSTACLE then I would spend the $40 on Doom or Mass Effect and get a AAA experience.

The bottom line is Eric contributes nothing to Max's sex life other than peeking...
MAYBE three versions from now DS adds something but you know what? Too late for ME! I already got rid of him because he served no purpose other than to make you grind and get off mission and I sure am not going to play through from the start again just for the few dozen rendered pics Eric may provide in the future.
 
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