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Fucking hell. This discussion. If you have criticism towards the game throw it out now and throw it out in a way that people can understand. DS has made it clear he came here because not everyone likes the game / decisions so far so do him and yourself a favor and tell him in a clear way what you dislike and why.

I did so through pm's and previous posts before and explained that I think the progress system is beyond stupid at this point. You're fucking someone, you leave the room enter it again just to have said person get mad at you for seeing them naked although you were fucking her 30 secs ago. For me this is the biggest issue in the game so far and it completely throws me off.

No need to pretend that it's the best or it's without fault and no need to sugarcoat it, just say what you think is bad at this point and explain why.

/out for the night. Behave and please don't force other mods to come here like they did last night.
 

Joshua Tree

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Why stop at just Blackmail...Have Max buy a gun on the internet, have him shoot Eric and then Rape his entire family at Gunpoint!
Incest Genre isn't about any of this. It's about the journey to Romantic FORBIDDEN love! The idea that the LUST for each other is greater than the risk and of being exposed and the guilt that you should not have given into your feelings. To have mutual sexual feelings you know you shouldn't have but is too good to deny yourself of.

Yes there is usually some trickery involved in the lead up to that experience. It's a subtle game of seduction, creating hints to the target, setting up situations where that target starts to think about and eventually comply.

Not this Suck my Cock or I'll screw up your homework and you will get spanked.
I won't really call it romance, but the focus should be heavy on seduction and manipulation of emotions and get the subject to alter their feelings towards you. What I do find odd though is you eventually end up with a whole harem of girls/wimen to screw around with in these games. It would been more natural the focus was on one person and then develop a strong story around that. Like see incremental changes in emotions and relation between the MC and the focus of your desire.
 
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What it looks like to me is either your anti-virus program or your computer will not allow the game to run.
That is just the loading screen and should go to the game.
It seems like I'm stuck on the loading screen
Running i5-3570k; HD 7870 2GB; 8GB RAM; Windows 10 with game loaded on SSD
running windows defender with exclusion set on the folder
What am I missing?
 

Joshua Tree

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I did so through pm's and previous posts before and explained that I think the progress system is beyond stupid at this point. You're fucking someone, you leave the room enter it again just to have said person get mad at you for seeing them naked although you were fucking her 30 secs ago. For me this is the biggest issue in the game so far and it completely throws me off.
This applies to a lot of games in this genre though, and I blame it on lack of actual progression. As story progress certain scenes get redundant and isn't needed anylonger. or at least they need to be altered to reflect the current state of the relationship with the MC. Maybe some new images and text added to the scene as a upgrade to reflect the new state.
 
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I don't think it is fair to just criticize it....Unless it is constructive criticism.

I have tried as best as I can to not only identify what bothers me about this game but tried to offer suggestions on how to correct those issues.
If all you have to say is it sucks then just don't play it and move on.
 
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Asphyx

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I won't really call it romance, but the focus should be heavy on seduction and manipulation of emotions and get the subject to alter their feelings towards you. What I do find odd though is you eventually end up with a whole harem of girls/wimen to screw around with in these games. It would been more natural the focus was on one person and then develop a strong story around that. Like see incremental changes in emotions and relation between the MC and the focus of your desire.
Well that is the nature of the games...Unless you want to make it about ONE person which gets labeled (and criticized) as a Relationship Sim, the Harem is there to give variety and to offer multiple nuances to get the relationship cooking. You get to pick who you want to have sex with and don't have to pursue the others if that is what you want.

If in fact Eric was a Female that was the obstacle to getting the others I bet there would be less problems with the character and in the end getting Erica would be the big puzzle to be explored. Last of the Harem to capitulate.
 
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it don't realy sucks, but it could be way better if done right
EXACTLY!
I think part of the issue is DS doesn't really get the Incest genre and allure of it. Understandable as not everyone gets that Kink unless they are into it just as with Bondage people seem to miss the point thinking the person not in ropes is in charge when in fact the one really in control is the one tied up!

The Tone of it suffers from many of the same problems Porn Studios suffer from, It's not just about draining your balls...There should be some emotional content to it, not just THREAT which this game has in spades!

My issue with Eric is in the execution not the concept. Rivals and challenges are fine, But overcoming those challenges have to have a reward at the end. And there is no reward save getting rid of him which begs the question why bother putting him in there at all?

technically there is not a single thing wrong with the game...rarely (if ever) has it crashed or glitched on me. So his game system and code is very tight and soundly done.
The majority of the issues are story, and lack of theme. I have been playing this since V2 and it's been a frustrating experience that really didn't get a decent payoff until the method for getting rid of Eric was developed and Max started actually having sex with his family.

This game could still turn out spectacular if he addresses some of these concerns with tone and story.
And if it does go that way I will be the first to run to patreon and pledge $40 towards his development.
 

jande21

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Fucking hell. This discussion. If you have criticism towards the game throw it out now and throw it out in a way that people can understand. DS has made it clear he came here because not everyone likes the game / decisions so far so do him and yourself a favor and tell him in a clear way what you dislike and why.

I did so through pm's and previous posts before and explained that I think the progress system is beyond stupid at this point. You're fucking someone, you leave the room enter it again just to have said person get mad at you for seeing them naked although you were fucking her 30 secs ago. For me this is the biggest issue in the game so far and it completely throws me off.

No need to pretend that it's the best or it's without fault and no need to sugarcoat it, just say what you think is bad at this point and explain why.

/out for the night. Behave and please don't force other mods to come here like they did last night.
Thread finally started to calm down, then BAM, @DarkSilver showed up. Like kicking a hornets nest lol.
 

micmitja

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well one thing is for sure who ever new will find this game play it, find this forum after will have something to do till next update (403 pages) :)
 
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micmitja

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Thread finally started to calm down, then BAM, @DarkSilver showed up. Like kicking a hornets nest lol.
I am glad he did whats tells me he care about his game and what ppl think in all circles. Also did see that many developers of their games (other) are involved on this forum.
 

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I'll admit that Eric is a topic that needs to die, even more so than the character needs to. The thing is that for most of us he isn't a concern anymore. We've got our saves that let us start the game after he appears, and we're not likely to see new content about him anymore. But people keep on posting about how the game is too easy without him, and somehow then leaping to the conclusion that the only fix is to bring him back. Or to say that he wasn't as awful as everyone else thinks he was. Or to suggest that the only thing wrong with him was that he didn't let you watch him screw your family more often. I'm starting to think those are intentional troll attempts now.

So now I'll get to my list of what I'd like to see improved in the game. But before that, things I don't really see as a problem.

1) The cameras. I could care less that I can't access them directly. I don't want to look through a camera when I could be there in person. It's just more time spent rendering that could be spent on something better.

2) Not being able to leave the apartment. Again, I could really care less. The family members are my focus in this game, and I don't need to leave the apartment to get them. Besides, I have a theory that Max was kidnapped by aliens and locked in a holographic alien zoo, and every character other than him is really an alien in disguise.

3) Inconsistent character reactions. I don't begrudge having family members suck my cock one moment, then protest about me seeing them in their underwear the next. Or at least it's not a big deal to me. Rewritten dialogue for those scenes would be nice, but not high on my list of priorities.

Now, here is what I see as the actual issues:

1) The grind. It needs to be shortened or changed up a bit. I don't want a short, easy game. But I don't want to literally be fast-forwarding through entire weeks trying to get to another attempt at a bit of triggering dialogue, or having to run through a routine of doing dishes, homework, massages, again and again.

2) More fleshed-out sex scenes. I would love for these to be longer, especially for the first time. I'm talking about the actual sex itself. I'm not necessarily talking more pictures, although I wouldn't complain about that. I mean more talking, or more description. Or maybe more interaction, like being able to click on more options during the sex. Right now, they're over with far too soon for something I worked so hard to get to.

3) Expanded translation of the English version. I've heard a couple of times that it's better in the original Russian. It's still good in English, although there are many times when it does come across as a poor translation. When you cum inside Alice that one time, she talks about having to "drink some pills" now or something.

For the record, I am a patron of the game, although nowhere near the $40 level. I just can't afford it. The game itself doesn't have a forum, so I come here to discuss it. And like others, to vent a little. It was easy to do so when DS was that mythical figure, although it's a little awkward now that he's here :) I do hope he sees the passion people here have for the game, and it's strengths and flaws as proof that he is doing a lot of things right to keep people that interested. There's a growing number of incest games out there, but I would honestly put Big Brother as one of the best. A lot of the conflict here is from people, myself included, who want to see it tweaked more towards our own desires. Except our desires are all different, and not always compatible...
 
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micmitja

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if you guys are still debating Eric and don't read stuff thats its posted here he will not return if you got rid of him. DS say so him self so...

 

Infamy

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Since everyone is giving their two cents to DarkSilver

Here is mine dude what is your adversion for show twats man....

Legit almost every sex scene you have the penatration obscured or the twat shots being blocked....

Care to explain this horse shit my guy?
 
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Since everyone is giving their two cents to DarkSilver

Here is mine dude what is your adversion for show twats man....

Legit almost every sex scene you have the penatration obscured or the twat shots being blocked....

Care to explain this horse shit my guy?
Maybe he can add in the close ups later? One version made for Cinnemax the other PornHub. I'm almost positive he'll go back and add animations. He could milk BB for 6-9 more months just doing that.
 

Corambis

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if you guys are still debating Eric and don't read stuff thats its posted here he will not return if you got rid of him. DS say so him self so...

I don't expect him to make a return. But some very vocal people want him to, or to convince us that he wasn't really that bad, or that him being written out of the game somehow ruined it.

Since everyone is giving their two cents to DarkSilver

Here is mine dude what is your adversion for show twats man....

Legit almost every sex scene you have the penatration obscured or the twat shots being blocked....

Care to explain this horse shit my guy?
From what I've seen, these programs do a great job of rendering faces and partially naked bodies. They do worse at vaginas and even worse at penetration. I don't know if it's a technical limitation, or just that there aren't as many resources out there for it like there are for faces or the rest of bodies. I just know that when I do see vaginas or assholes rendered in these games, they often look... off.
 

micmitja

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I don't expect him to make a return. But some very vocal people want him to, or to convince us that he wasn't really that bad, or that him being written out of the game somehow ruined it.
y i know but thats not the biggest issue i think, issue is as of now that ppl are worry if DS render ERIC other paths will get less content. Alltho i wouldn't mind to see some bdsm on him from Kate mom basement just for fun (ppl did wanted to see max go out from house from time to time) :)
 

Infamy

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Honestly I don't care but if I wanted this soft core shit I would watch Highschool D x D or something :/
 
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