Voilsh

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Pray tell who do you get to share with Eric as your Friend?
And being his friend is EASY no challenge at all!
Making him impotent there is no sharing and no sex at all! Not for him or YOU!
This is why I say the Eric fans are out of their mind...They claim he SHARES them but he does no such thing!
It certainly isn't a challenge to get him to let you peep and the impotency pills don't get you any content just removes the little content the Eric Friend path gave you in the NTR track.
So your "Challenge" is how to keep Eric around and not get any of the NTR content you loved about him JUST IN CASE DS decides to go against the majority of his users and make more content for you Eric lovers.
There is no challenge with him at all...
You can get a few peeps if you friend him and you can get a Twice a week opportunity to remove that content by dosing him with Salt Peter.
Or you can be his enemy (again just pick the right dialogue) and get nothing from him except fewer peeps at him and mom
Or you can get rid of him and have Sex with the Women which is the ONLY challenging thing about him since you have to grind to get money to pay off Kate's Mom or Blackmail him with his wallet which removes all the NTR scenes you like.
Or you can write the story in a way that you can see voyeur content and getting more and more sexual with characters while keeping Eric around and "disabled". The challenge is that : being able to keep him around, the mother still having her work, while you advance your intimacy with characters.
I don't see any problems with that, as long as the money making is not as ridiculously difficult as it is right now. Especially if the dev intends to keep adding stuff to the game for a long time.
NTR is meh in the game IMO, I play it for the voyeur stuff mainly.
 

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Looking at this graph seems like it become slow with 0.5. Still his patrons growth rate is consistent regardless of an update. With every update he gain more patrons. The same with 0.3 and 0.4 which were Eric's. He only lost some Patrons during 0.6 but it's still so insignificant number it's nothing mayor. He didn't gain much with 0.7 to change the fact that BB probably just reached it's ceiling. It's hard to assume that any erotic game will gain audience forever. But that's some fine data at least. Except for his earnings as they seem waaay lower than in reality.
The drops in Version 6 had very little to do with Eric not getting content it was due to the Graphics being degraded because he outsourced the rendering to others after hitting a goal.
A problem he has corrected in the latest version!
 

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The drops in Version 6 had very little to do with Eric not getting content it was due to the Graphics being degraded because he outsourced the rendering to others after hitting a goal.
A problem he has corrected in the latest version!
This would actually make much more sense
 
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Or you can write the story in a way that you can see voyeur content and getting more and more sexual with characters while keeping Eric around and "disabled". The challenge is that : being able to keep him around, the mother still having her work, while you advance your intimacy with characters.
I don't see any problems with that, as long as the money making is not as ridiculously difficult as it is right now. Especially if the dev intends to keep adding stuff to the game for a long time.
NTR is meh in the game IMO, I play it for the voyeur stuff mainly.
That is not a challenge that is a STALEMATE!
And he still will be fucking mom the next morning!

I'm not against the Voyeurism...That's fine. What bothered me about Eric is he pretty much cock blocked you from getting any sex until you blackmail him (give up the Peeping) or send him packing.
We sure didn't need Eric to peep there are cameras all over the house that could satisfy that genre.
Then Eric wouldn't be a cock block just a guy that fucks mom you can peep on.
The issue with Eric isn't the NTR or the fact he is fucking the family...It is the fact that while you let him stay he is the ONLY one fucking family in a game advertised as Incest.
Well unless we find out he is Anne's Brother, Grandfather or Father of all the women in this game... that is not incest at all.
 

Asphyx

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Hi guys,

can someone told me really quick is there any more photo session or movies after the first movie with Mom,Son and Aunt. ( Where Max come home and start looking for mom and then he notice mom and aunt)
There is supposed to be a new Movie to do in the next release...
Not sure if Mom and Max get it on in that he may drag that out for as long as possible as it should be the most hard to obtain woman in the game.
 

tysonl

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But for a Patreon developed game, you get input into actual development that you would NEVER get on a AAA commercial game. And given the NSFW nature of what we see here, you would NEVER see that in say a game on Steam.
steam has a lot of adult games... your living under a rock bro. check out "house party", "material girl" and other visual novel on steam. its very NSFW
 

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DS,

I had some thoughts/feedback:

1) I know Eric isn't popular, but I'm personally looking forward to seeing the control route with him expanded. I think it would be interesting to be able to push Eric into helping you get more from Ann and to convince Ann to knowingly let you do more (maybe as a sex-ed ruse?). Afterwards, it might make for an interesting story arc in then getting rid of him like usual, having Ann push back against your advances again since he's gone, and having you try to assert yourself as her new master. Having to convince her to go along with it, and make her want it based on how she already knows what it's like with you, could be a cool scenario for people that enjoy that part of the game.

2) I'd like to see the Lisa sex-ed route expanded some without Kira. Having Lisa genuinely interested in trying things with Max while being shy about it and working herself up to things was pretty hot, in my opinion. I liked that she was convincing herself to do more with you (like playing with herself at night while you watched). I think it'd be worthwhile to have them do more on their own, even if you haven't talked to Kira about giving her lessons. And Lisa initiating some more.

3) Definitely would be interested in seeing more expansion upon some of the smaller scenarios you created in the game. Spanking Alice was a really good one, especially when you get to the point of complimenting her and she seems like she really liked it, which made me want to see that keep growing over time - maybe her starting to get a little excited when you suggest the spanking and taunting you to see if she can get you to go a little further with the punishment (then building it up little by little). Or when you're watching movies with Ann (not the porn ones used to advance the new career plot, the regular ones) - I would love to see the ability to build up a relationship with her through the events, since they seem like an excellent bonding moment that goes mostly unused aside from fulfilling grind needs. There are a lot of little moments like this that have the potential to build things up in a way that's based on desire instead of the manipulation used in so many of the plot lines. (That's not to say that I don't want those other plot lines - just that I happen to also like mutual attraction between characters quite a bit and want to see more of it.)

4) Would like to see more store items to affect gameplay. It just feels very empty after you get past certain events, and I think being able to do more with the money you get in-game would be nice. Maybe some wine you can give to Alice (where she knows you're giving her wine) in events after you've given her chocolates a few times, to get more of a rise out of her. Maybe some massage oils to use on Ann to alter her mood a little when you're massaging her. Some toys to use on Alice during her cam show would be cool, after she's already letting you fuck her for it - it would probably be an excuse to have her let loose some more in enjoying the pleasure.

5) I think if you're going to do some additional romantic options - Kira is a good choice. Since she's spent so much time focused on sex and has basically blown off romance completely the entire time, catching her off guard and creating actual romantic feelings in her would probably make for a solid twist on her story that couldn't be had from any of the other girls. Would require more effort to make it believable, though, so I get why you might not want to go that route.

6) I think too many of the 'opportunities' have been left dead-ended. There are lots of loosely intertwined storylines and they're not really getting meaningful conclusions. Seeing more progress on these stagnant pieces would be good, before they lose too much appeal from sitting around so long and being played so many times.

7) I hope there will be more yoga stuff with Ann to come (including going 'beyond' doing yoga in that scene).

There's other stuff I've thought about, but this is already quite a bit of text, so I'll leave it there.
Hopefully it's helfpul in some respect.
Took the words right out of my mouth
 

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The drops in Version 6 had very little to do with Eric not getting content it was due to the Graphics being degraded because he outsourced the rendering to others after hitting a goal.
A problem he has corrected in the latest version!
Yeah, I remember the drop. It's especially noticeable in the homework scene, where part of it was written before the drop, and part after. It gets visibly darker from one render to the next. But as noted, it's gotten much better since then.

Tho I highly pref BB over SS, in my opinion unique artstyle, design consistency and streightforwardness of SS makes it much easier to sell. And it's not considered to be only incest as there are tons of other characters and no incest in title. In my opinion he won't reach it. This whole dispute about different fetishes and all just proofs that BB's design is just clunky. Maybe you're right but we will see it after 2 years if BB will still be in development after that period of time. At this point I don't see it.
I tried playing SS, but just couldn't get into it. The art reminded me of that ctrl-alt-del comic too much. Maybe I'll give it another try someday. I love the graphics in BB much more. Gameplay could get some improvement, but that's old news. I don't think BB will be still making major updates in two years. I suspect we'll be on DS's second game, which hopefully will be an incest game built with the lessons learned from this first game.

Or you can write the story in a way that you can see voyeur content and getting more and more sexual with characters while keeping Eric around and "disabled". The challenge is that : being able to keep him around, the mother still having her work, while you advance your intimacy with characters.
I don't see any problems with that, as long as the money making is not as ridiculously difficult as it is right now. Especially if the dev intends to keep adding stuff to the game for a long time.
NTR is meh in the game IMO, I play it for the voyeur stuff mainly.
The mother could still have a job without Eric. I do like the movie route, as long as it doesn't involve Ann sleeping with other men. Or I like the idea of Max paying the bills, while Ann slowly takes on a more domestic role until she's his de facto wife. We could finally see Max sleeping in her bed, since it's the main bedroom, and he's the breadwinner. He gives out all of the punishments, including Ann, when he sabotages her housework. Maybe Lisa even slips and calls him Daddy a few times. Ann finally has sex with Max, which, depending on choices the player makes, could be out of guilt, or out of gratitude and honest love.
 
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About the house. I think they only pay the utility bills and twice a year for taxes if in U.S. Since father already paid for the construction of the house. They cant kick you out of the house for not paying utility bills they just turn off the electricity/gas. And for taxes its not a monthly thing.
That is correct. Furthermore, in the game, the house's roof is covered with solar panels, so they don't have to pay for electricity. Assuming their stove and water heater are electric, they don't need to pay for gas, which I image is the case, given the comment that the solar panels would cover heating if they lived somewhere that needed it. That just leaves water. If they have a well, they don't need to pay for water, just the electricity that the pump uses. If they use city water, they do need to pay for it.

On the other hand, while state taxes are only twice a year, some cities have local taxes, and I'm not sure how often they're due. Still, without a mortgage payment and most utilities, the financial drain caused by the house is negligible. Most of their liability would be feeding and clothing a household of five. With the exception of a cable/internet/phone package and maybe water, the only other bill I can think of is homeowner's insurance and health insurance. They don't even own a car, so there would be no car payments or car insurance.
 

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steam has a lot of adult games... your living under a rock bro. check out "house party", "material girl" and other visual novel on steam. its very NSFW
I had no idea. I doubt "Incest Game of a Lifetime" Would fly though.
 
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I had no idea. I doubt "Incest Game of a Lifetime" Would fly though.
If I remember correctly, censorship is required by Steam. Sometimes there's decensor patches out there, but I think you'll still find it tame compared to stuff you can get elsewhere.
 

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Yup, there are adult games in Steam, but no adult content. Though there are official unofficial patches for unlocking adult content usually.
 

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Milking or not milking .. that is question. The fact is that you (as every other dev) can do more in my opinion.
You can't say the fact is based on your opinion. The biggest problem I see with people saying that devs are milking is just because these people don't consider anything else outside the game itself as if the devs live just to work on the game. This is completely wrong.

For example, the amount of work done by DS is somehow judged based on how much money he made from his patrons. People throw around X amount of dollars as if that is related to the amount of work. No, this is not true. The fact is that making BB is DS' full-time job, and people need to realize that full-time job doesn't mean working 24/7. It's pretty much 8hr/day for 5 days/week. That's the definition of full-time job. Then also consider that there are a lot of things that need fixing. Things don't always just run smooth and work from the first try. That's time spent as well. What you see is only the end-product (released version). You don't see the actual work that was put into making that end-product.

Lastly, the definition of milking is when the dev purposely prolong the game to get more money. But if you look at BB objectively, the amount of new content per update seems to be pretty consistent and not necessarily being reduced once it gained popularity.
 

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Does Exist any full walktrough?, Cause almost 3 times in a row i het stucked, and avery time i end in the military school
 

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Does Exist any full walktrough?, Cause almost 3 times in a row i het stucked, and avery time i end in the military school
there is one version not complete for up to 0.6 version


and rest was also already answered there at least 10x.
 

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I hated the way Eric was introduced and forced upon the player as a demigod that could do no wrong. That is why I will probably never like the Eric character. As I stated before it could have be done differently. For example Max could have used the knowledge of Kira's porn career to blackmail her into seducing Eric so he could blackmail him into helping him seduce or control Ann. Then later on his sisters and others. If Eric was portrayed as a victim of Max's twisted aspirations then I would feel sorry for him.
 
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tysonl

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I had no idea. I doubt "Incest Game of a Lifetime" Would fly though.
well the incest game "Strangers in a Strange Land" has Mom and Son incest. but sadly it is currently removed because of steam saying its a porn game. XD i find that very funny since many adult games on there have sexual content. however valve and dev are re-releasing the game "stripped down" version. which will then be restored with adult patch. when its up i highly recommend the game, it's point and click, and i loved the mom and the incest :3

Dev "submitted the stripped version like Valve Requested a week ago and they asked for slightly more changes. I made those as well and re-submitted a few days ago. I am currently waiting on their reply.".
 

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I hated the way Eric was introduced and forced upon the player as a demigod that could do no wrong. That is why I will probably never like the Eric character. As I stated before it could have be done differently. For example Max could have used the knowledge of Kira's porn career to blackmail her into seducing Eric so he could blackmail him into helping him seduce or control Ann. Then later on his sisters and others. If Eric was portrayed as a victim of Max's twisted aspirations then I would feel sorry for him.
Eric is not a demigod and very easy to work around until you get rid of him.
You can build up well over 5k cash and 5 cam's without allowing him to do anything other than screwing Ann and peeping at Alice. Easy Peasy.
 
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Skeletor

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That is correct. Furthermore, in the game, the house's roof is covered with solar panels, so they don't have to pay for electricity. Assuming their stove and water heater are electric, they don't need to pay for gas, which I image is the case, given the comment that the solar panels would cover heating if they lived somewhere that needed it. That just leaves water. If they have a well, they don't need to pay for water, just the electricity that the pump uses. If they use city water, they do need to pay for it.

On the other hand, while state taxes are only twice a year, some cities have local taxes, and I'm not sure how often they're due. Still, without a mortgage payment and most utilities, the financial drain caused by the house is negligible. Most of their liability would be feeding and clothing a household of five. With the exception of a cable/internet/phone package and maybe water, the only other bill I can think of is homeowner's insurance and health insurance. They don't even own a car, so there would be no car payments or car insurance.
About taxes, just remembered. I live in the northern states where there's snow. So we pay summer/winter property tax. Since they are somewhere down south they only have to pay it once a year since there's no winter.
 

Skeletor

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Eric is not a demigod and very easy to work around until you get rid of him.
You can build up well over 5k cash and 5 cam's without allowing him to do anything other than screwing Ann and peeping at Alice. Easy Peasy.
I think the guy meant "demigod" as in nobody even questioned his intentions all three of the girls thought Eric was the coolest guy around. Especially Ann she literally thought of him as a "demi-god". Yeah I get her backstory when she was kidnapped but still. She just gobbles up his words like he is really a "demi-god" like he could do no wrong.
 
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