Corambis

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I won't support an unfinished game, I consider Patreon, kickstarter, and so on as near worthless sites. I was hopeful at first, but all good things come to an end. I will support this game if he chooses to monetize it after it is finished. If he actually fills out the remaining updates with good content, and quits with the erotica style sex, I wouldn't mind giving DS $10 for his game. I have seen Max's dick way too much, need to expand the visuals in the game.
I can understand the reasoning behind this, but a game like this would never get made through the conventional process. Or if it did, it wouldn't be the game it is now. DS clearly had something different in mind when he started it. It's certainly not worth $40 a month to me, but the amount I do contribute towards it is worth the orgasm or two it gives me with each update.
 
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SilentFella

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I can understand the reasoning behind this, but a game like this would never get made through the conventional process. Or if it did, it wouldn't be the game it is now. DS clearly had something different in mind when he started it. It's certainly not worth $40 a month to me, but the amount I do contribute towards it is worth the orgasm or two it gives me with each update.
Depends. If I had a job making $100k or more a year, doing $20 to $40 isn't a big deal. Only big deal is I was raised to value goods, not goods in progress. Honestly, I have played plenty of games that were high quality and didn't use patreon or kickstarter, or any other service like them. The only catch is time to make. People get on patreon hoping they can quit a normal job and go full tilt game developer. The problem is a lot of them lose interest in being a full time developer, which causes a lot of problems. If they keep a job and work on it in their spare time, it is a hobby, not a job, and when their hobby produces a finished product and they make a decent amount of cash off it, then they should be able to decide if they want to be an actual developer.

I don't know DS's background in that regard, but too many patreon folks have stopped without a finished product, while many non patreon folks have made phenomenal games. I wish I could remember a few, but since coming to this site, my memory is a bit blurred due to the sheer amount of patreon backed games on this site leaving me a bit confused on which is or is not a patreon backed game. The only difference between patreon and non patreon is time to make a finished product, and for many, satisfaction. Growing up, I wanted to be an archaeologist. I got to college, started taking my first classes in it, and realized my dream since childhood was really not what I thought it would be like. I went to work on a degree in IT afterwards. I feel this is what happens to many patreon folks who want to make their first real game.

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And as for orgasms, this game doesn't really do much for me in that regard. Sex scenes are too short, and the lack of visual stimuli, save for a freaky looking, discolored dick, kinda ruins many of the scenes. What keeps me going is the promises of the future content to come and the quality of the rest of the game.
 

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I don't know about me. I passed a certain age a few years ago and I just started liking older women. Not too old, but upper 30's, lower 40's. Anna hits that sweet spot. She looks mature compared to the rest of them, so I find her alluring. The only turn off is her god awful dialogue through most of the game. The dialogue for the other characters seemed to have a lot more care while Anna is like a robot.
I agree she is more Milfy than Cougarish...
After awhile you learn that older women just have better sex because they are already over the hangups and have probably done everything you have ever wanted to do and willing to do or teach you what you haven't done yet! LOL
And I agree the dialogue in the entire game is actually pretty sparse and not very well done...
(Which leads me to your next Quote)

Different people take away different experiences from the same situations.
Part of the problem is the dialogue is so generic and lifeless that we have no choice but to use our imagination heavily to put any sexiness or feelings in the game. Which is why one person sees something in an interaction that others don't see.

As as for having bad choices in a game....Of course there needs to be bad choices and consequences otherwise it's just a click through. But at the end of the consequences should be a solution that lets you redeem yourself and get the content you lost for making the bad decision.
This is afterall an Adventure/RPG game not an Arcade game where you miss shooting the ship you just die and start over.
Imagine an adventure game that had a few hallways you could enter but never leave?
Would anyone really replay that game or would they just move on to one that doesn't FORCE you to make a save every three steps you take JUST IN CASE you hit that dead end hallway?

That is pretty much why I don't buy into the notion that dead ends spur replayability...
All it spurs is massive save slots being used which makes the hardest part of the game trying to keep all the saves organized so you know which one is which.
 
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Meso

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Just wait until lisa desides to sleep naked, you'll see all you need to see. Futhermore, if lisa becomes your girlfriend, you'll have plenty of your desired core pics.
You misunderstand, I'm not raising issue with the fact that you never get to see Lisa naked, I'm raising the fact that in this specific scenario she says will show you her breast and the image you get is her covering her breast with her hand, which seems a little counterintuitive.
 

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Bro i think you looking to deep into a game that has a Generic incest/NTR plot
Why can't a game or novel have both content and great sex pictures? I kept seeing ppl post that a porn game should only have sex and less story or great content .. I don't see any reason why we can't have both.

An easy search on any porn vids sites will net you countless of "incest" vids with a heavily tatooed man walking into a room with another heavily tatooed woman , and they start going at it , and the only indication of incest is the caption "brother walk in room and screw/f sister".
Without caption , another vid of a stonic-face professional porn actor and a porn-trained seasoned actress yelling how much she like dicks and give her more.

If one can have a kick off just because the caption have "brother , sister , or mother , father) then congrat mans... u have stumble on the great internet troves of "incest" treasure. Don't bother with BB's stills and grinding when you can have real action...and tonnes of it. Just do a search.

I supported DS idea that incest is not an "easy" thing ,

"One does not simply walk into a room and screw your sister/mom. "

Thats why a very good reason I like the earlier version of the game is because
his different way of achieving his incest ideas. Don't get me wrong , I don't have a aversion to true path seduction , in fact I always thought Lisa will be that true path. Looking forward to how Max learn that Lisa is "worth" it and grow to match her.

But I was also very entertained by how Max get sexual revenge on Alice who despise hm, through spiders and framing her with cigarettes.

But the best is Ann , mom with absolutely zero interest in Max as a sexual object , which is very very realistic. Sorry games that the "Mom" fantasize about the son's dick every day or just because the son confess he got a serious case of oedipus complex and the mom think its her duty to "cure" him just don't click with me. Say what you will , but I am actually looking forward to using Eric to exploit Ann's weakness to help Max.

fair enough
Have fun being milked by a game maker that doesn't care about the people playing his game
I used to think that too , but after seeing his replies , I actually appreciate what he is doing though I don't really like it. He is trying to overcome his
"One does not simply walk into a room and screw your sister/mom. " idea, but not degenerating into those senseless nymphomaniac family members harem game but STILL legit-ly to end in a harem game (which his paying fans demand) sensibly.
Its interesting to see how he overcome this , the shopping with family is one great step , but his recent post of on the future of the game show give some insight on how he is faring as the more he try to erode the incest resistance barriers to real feelings through events and gameplay reaching the harem ending , the more ppl will take it he's trying to milk them. As most of them just wanna see sex scenes with Ann and Lisa , even if it means the cupboard drop on their heads and they wake up strangely just wanting to screw Max.
 

Corambis

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I used to think that too , but after seeing his replies , I actually appreciate what he is doing though I don't really like it. He is trying to overcome his
"One does not simply walk into a room and screw your sister/mom. " idea, but not degenerating into those senseless nymphomaniac family members harem game but STILL legit-ly to end in a harem game (which his paying fans demand) sensibly.
Yeah, I like his approach of trying to have things make more sense than the average incest porn or harem game. As you said, incest doesn't typically just happen. DS's main fault in this regard was in not considering that romance could be a possible way it happened. For the most part, I appreciate the slow build and teasing until we finally get Ann and Lisa. But I do hope he does something special with their scenes to make them spectacular. I don't care about animation, or anything like that. I just want more text, maybe more renders, and for it to otherwise last more than a few clicks.

Put cousins in the game..Lol :)) neighbors , teachers,another girlfriend a bigger one.. etc make the game big
The game desperately needs more sisters, half-sisters, and cousins. But it's far too late to put them into this game. I'd expect his next game to have a much larger cast of female characters from the start.
 

locuelo85

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Hi .

I'm playing this game and I like it, but i have a problem after a few weeks in the game when I enter in the online shop I lost all the money.

when this happens once then it happens every time I enter the shop and I can't make progress in the story.

How can I solve this problem?


Sorry for my English and thaks for the help.
 

a1fox3

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And a lot less fucking asshole godmoded nemesis characters that fuck everyone and ruin your life.
Are you back at this again.
He is way to easy to get around and he never gets to touch any other girl but Ann in my games.
Learn how the play the game that you can keep him at bay, it is very easy to do.:cool:
 
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Shardoom

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Are you back at this again.
He is way to easy to get around and he never gets to touch any other girl but Ann in my games.
Learn how the play the game that you can keep him at bay, it is very easy to do.:cool:
Oh ffs...

Yes once you ALREADY KNOW how to beat him its easy. That's fucking obvious...
His entire plot is full of bullshit anti-logic traps and surprise NTR that you can't avoid without a guide when you first play...

To be perfectly clear, I know and have known for a VERY LONG time how to stop eric from doing anything. That doesn't stop his entire presence and surprise NTR content from being bullshit. Needing to have your hand held with a guide while playing a game in order to avoid unadvertised content is just fucking stupid. If you don't understand why this is, well, this conversation isn't going to get very far.
 

markus T

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Anyway....Lisa is somewhat sweet, innocent and more caring with slightly kinky side thats starting to emerge.Alice is kind of bitchy with a wild side to her and Kate is just kinky.
Kira is kind of a nympho lol and Ann....well she is, Im not sure how to describe her lol
 
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Vayleton

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DS appears to be releasing a lot more preview images of 0.9 than 0.8. Can we hope for a bigger update? because i liked 0.8 but it only added about 130 images.
From what he wrote about what could and would be in 0.9, it could be that the next update will be bigger.
 
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