Unity Abandoned Big Brother [v0.13.0.007] [Dark Silver]

[ikaruga]

Would they be? I wouldn't, and I'm a pledger. If he happened to screw my pc I'd just be sure to get his address (i'm kidding, maybe). But at this point I'm not even sure I'll be able to use your mods and cheat, this guy sounds totally crazy and he'd be capable of doing some shit.

We will scan everything executed on machines before trying to hack. And we're able to shut access to internet to a program, so he may not be able to see ourselves

Don't worry, piracy always win, ever, since bow and shield

 

[Hjort]

Don't worry, piracy always win, ever, since bow and shield

This.
Plus if he really is crazy enough to include malware in the game, just submit it to couple of anti-virus companies and then poke patreon, I'm sure they would be delighted being informed, becuse it's usally really bad for bussnies assisting in the spreading of malware or viruses...

 

[ikaruga]

The only way to deal with pirates, is to accept them. 40$/month for an unfinished games, it's 500$ for a year developped one.

Even the worse bastards as EA and their DLC oriented games, or microsoft and his full featured gear of war at 199$ are far away from this costs.

That's why i will hack his game.
And maybe, when finished, i'm willing to pay 40$ for it

 

[ikaruga]

This.
Plus if he really is crazy enough to include malware in the game, just submit it to couple of anti-virus companies and then poke patreon, I'm sure they would be delighted being informed, becuse it's usally really bad for bussnies assisting in the spreading of malware or viruses...

Is a deal breaker. Read the TOS.
He can't harm us with his product, because we'll use it against him.

I'm more about an Eric scam or bugged content. Like the drunk camera on GTA IV

 

[Hjort]

That's indeed the likely thing he has in mind.

 

[Paz]

How is that from a clearly overblown statement (including malware) we went to a whole page discussing it as if it had ever the slightest possibility to happen?

It will probably be what ikaruga says, some form of path blocking or similar.

 

[ikaruga]

How is that from a clearly overblown statement (including malware) we went to a whole page discussing it as if it had ever the slightest possibility to happen?

It will probably be what ikaruga says, some form of path blocking or similar.

Let's close this with this statment :

• Patreon can't produce harmful software
• He can try to detect modification of his game
• He needs to show that he disagree with piracy to protect his patrons
• We will find how he does it
• We will find a way to play

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[Vayleton]

Brace yourselves, fiery rage will rain down upon this thread (in the form of a shitload of Eric-related posts).

Well yeah, my rage is burning bright and silent
Fuck that guy!

Will have to smoke before playing next version if Eric's is going to get worse, LOL.

Or just close your eyes and chant "There's no place like home. There's no place like home."
But yeah, need to steel our nerves, and pray to santachrist. "Please allow us the opportunity to stop this before it happens." xD

 

[TCMS]

I'm just wondering, and always did, what stops a creator from hiding malicious code that activates upon detection of a pirate? I mean there's plenty of examples of creators busting pirates with funny messages, bugging their experiences, or simply keeping them stuck in menus till a crack is found. What if he just executes a drive wipe, trojan, etc?

He could do that, and afterwards he'd get banned from patreon and he'd have a lawsuit on his hands. Even if the person is pirating your game you could never do this to him.

 

[Kratzeis]

well we will see it on 0.4 i think he adds like a nice joke or somethink idk but one for sure that he will never add trojan to his game for me it would not make much sense xD maybe he adds liek the witcher 3 if you cheat then all womes are old or somethink ^^

 

[Yevaud6]

Let's close this with this statment :

• Patreon can't produce harmful software
• He can try to detect modification of his game
• He needs to show that he disagree with piracy to protect his patrons
• We will find how he does it
• We will find a way to play

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This statement feels "Taken-ish". Your just missing "a particular set of skills" XD

 

[AnonX]

"Surprises" apart (i'm totally confident in you guys' skill), i'm glad that it seems we'll finally be able to get more touchy with Alice, but seriously, no Lisa content? Goddamn it, she's the main waifu, the other girls are just a side bonus

 

[3xpurt]

Because if something like that were to leak, he would he have 0 paying patrons in a heartbeat.
Not because it's a ridiculous out of proportion reaction, to what is essentially a free marketing campaign that will ultimately get him more patrons, but because legit users would be scared shitless of accidentally triggering said trojan.

There have been plenty of cases of legit customers triggering over-the-top DRM in triple-a games over the years, or being forced to remove installed software to get it to run, etc. Right now this guy has legit customers requiring to login, which is one step further than pirates, so this is why I don't think he has any experience in what piracy vs drm is like in the real world.

 

[Buffalo Fred]

I noticed that this game has NTR tag. I suppose that this Eric that everybody seems to hate is the one doing the netorare? Or is the MC only doing netori?

Indeed. He's your mothers new boss&boyfriend who completely dominates her and moves on your sisters too. The player can catch him doing so but nothing comes of it, whether you choose to work with him or against him - basically he's a giant pain in the ass.

Edit: Also @AnonX : hogwash! Alice is clearly best girl.

 

[Yevaud6]

Indeed. He's your mothers new boss&boyfriend who completely dominates her and moves on your sisters too. The player can catch him doing so but nothing comes of it, whether you choose to work with him or against him - basically he's a giant pain in the ass.

Edit: Also @AnonX : hogwash! Alice is clearly best girl.

Currently I agree, I am definitely waiting for mor Alice content than Lisa. Once the ball gets rolling on the mother, maybe I'll reconsider.

 

[sigterm]

The only way to deal with pirates, is to accept them. 40$/month for an unfinished games, it's 500$ for a year developped one.

Even the worse bastards as EA and their DLC oriented games, or microsoft and his full featured gear of war at 199$ are far away from this costs.

That's why i will hack his game.
And maybe, when finished, i'm willing to pay 40$ for it

If you think that, you don't understand what Patreon is about.
Patreon isn't about buying games. If you want to do that, go to Steam.
Patreon is about funding projects.
Also, you don't need to pay 40$... The lowest tier, with game access, is 5$, which makes 60$/year... The price of an AAA game.

 

[D3ssel]

If you think that, you don't understand what Patreon is about.
Patreon isn't about buying games. If you want to do that, go to Steam.
Patreon is about funding projects.
Also, you don't need to pay 40$... The lowest tier, with game access, is 5$, which makes 60$/year... The price of an AAA game.

Yup. FUNDING. Not selling.

It's all about patronage, as even the name of the site itself (Patreon) suggests.

He isn't selling a far from ready game. He's asking for support so he can finish his "art", so to speak. Or, at least, he should be.

Yet, he's acting like he's EA or some other big publisher, selling a "finished" product (as if...). Especially when he starts this kind of warfare against anyone who isn't paying him. The fact that he's currently getting near US$ 20k per month also doesn't help (It's not like he needs extra funding to finish this or something... It's just pure, plain greed)

I so hope more content creators out there would understand the concept of patronage. Patreon isn't Steam Early Access! Luckily, some content creators (DarkCookie comes to mind.... But there are others) fully understand this and act accordingly. Others, though...

As it is, unless DS understands this and have a change of heart, I will never become his patron (and I do have a considerable monthly amount pledged on Patreon, btw), and really hope we can pirate this thing to oblivion. If someone asks me for a opinion regarding supporting him (DS) or not, you can bet I'll point said person to other content creators out there who are much more worthy of their patronage.

'nuff said!

/rantoff

 

[thjis1]

I am a paying customer and DS is getting on my nerves with his posts, I chose to make the payment and I am now strongly leaning toward removing him from my life. The mods here have made the game more enjoyable. I like having the option of running easy or hard, especially in games where you might want to try different branches. Saves me tons of reliving content. Hell I have already gone through the opening to many times. I hate the intro dinner sequences..

 

[Yevaud6]

As long as I get to re-purchase liquor candy, I'm happy. Till then I'll mod it

 

[greyelf]

I am a paying customer...

Sorry but you are incorrect, you are not a paying customer because you are not purchasing a service or product.

You are donating your money on a regular bases to support someone in an activity thus known as patronage, in this particular case that activity is the process of creating a game.