Just a comment on the 'Kira' is the drive for everything. Max does the Blog and spider paths on his own. Yes, there is a bit off Kira in the Kate/Alice section, but that was just to get weed (and get rid of Erik/Victor/Scum). Lisa section had Kira as teacher, but it wasn't excessive (got to do things on our own during and after demos). I'd say that while Kira IS a driver in the game, it's mostly to get the Movies, and as teacher for Lisa.
The nice thing (and why I don't dislike her) is that Kira doesn't make me feel like I'm playing an Online game against a 12 year old with GOD MODE and extra cheats. Oh, she also has a VERY sexy Body and HOT face.
Just a thought.
I didn't say everything to be fair, but she is the drive for a lot. She totally drives your interactions with Ann, drives the movie plot, tells you how to handle the wallet situation, and is the general go to for everything.
Yeah, the blogging opportunity starts out with Max taking initiative, that's a good point. I would then say though, that in the relationship with Alice, he still isn't the one really doing stuff because access to her is gated vis a vis her girlfriend Kate. Kate is the one in control there.
In the Lisa and Olivia routes, the people in charge of the advancement are the girls themselves and Max. Yeah Kira helps in the GF path, but she is at least doing so after Max has already gotten Lisa to agree to dating him, and he thought of Kira as a teacher, she didn't bring it up to him. Again, why the Lisa routes are the best.
I think you could use him to be a pretty good parallel to Max if they tried to develop Max's character instead of keeping him being the peeper that gets to fuck his entire family. In the game as is with the Wallet opportunity you kinda get what would be a pretty good story if Max would start developing in the opposite direction as the dirty laundry begins to air itself, with both starting and finishing in each others places. It would could even be used to cut down on the bs of having to deal with the corruption as you progress through the storylines.
Sure you would have to change a lot of the post-Eric content and it would need a nuance that i don't think might be there if he wants to put the more NTR(although i wouldn't consider it NTR if Eric had misadventures with the 3 girls and they either regretted or moved on) stuff, but then again by adding more content he is backing himself even more if he decides to remove or expand in the future.
Max and Eric are basically the same character 20 years apart. Both are willing to lie, cheat and steal in order to get what they want. Both don't actually seem to care about more than getting their dicks wet, and both believe that in order to bed girls you need to bribe the hell out of them with gifts. Max is just in a weaker position than Eric, and that's why it's such a clusterfuck when he arrives.
The only Delusional ones are the Ericas....
DS said and I quote....
"I NEVER INTENDED TO MAKE AN NTR GAME!"
And Erics path WAS FINISHED....You just either refused to finish it or chose to believe all this crap that DS always intended it to be NTR and IGNORE his statement that it was "NEVER HIS INTENTION TO MAKE AN NTR GAME"
Some light reading for those who are still Patreons of this game....
Exposes the myths and lies being perpetrated in this forum by a few Ericas.
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Well I can't read those posts as I'm not a patron. Maybe, I dunno, post the text?
And relax man, you're making this shit political. Myths and lies? Christ.
Anyhow, look, DS can say he never intended to make an NTR game all he wants. Maybe he even meant it.
It won't change the fact that
he made an NTR game. Or at least a game with NTR elements.
I mean in the game as it stands, even if we take away him fucking Ann, he can go from basically raping Kira to her loving it. That is TEXTBOOK NTR. There is an Eric influence stat, there are several scenes of him peeping on Alice that move on to near naked massages, if you tell him about Alice's problems with liquor, when she comes home drunk from the club he is IN HER ROOM and it's so bad that Max won't look. And before you say nothing happens there, consider how easily she will fool around with her brother when she's drunk. I mean she will blow Max drunk well before she's willing to do anything sober. And say what you will about Eric, the fucker has seduction skills that Max can only dream of. So no way are they not boning in that situation.
As for Lisa, again, there is a counter for the number of times she has done Sex Ed with Eric and Ann. You do not make a counter like that unless you plan to do something with it, and I doubt it was something good. And for those who say nothing would have happened because of Ann? Please, that woman turned on her family the second she got some dick in her life, and Eric knew how to push that switch, she could totally be convinced to let Eric do shit to Lisa in order to "educate her".
All of these events are optional, but they are all in the game. All of it points to the ability for Eric to cuck Max if you didn't play well. I don't see how that's even debatable.
