- Mar 6, 2017
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Looks like Max about the die from drug overdose
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He IS easy to beat...The problem was (1) for two months the solution to beat him didn't exist! and (2) some people simply couldn't bring themselves to let him go because he was their GREATEST HOPE of finally getting an NTR game to satisfy their Cucking Kink!
- Oct 2, 2017
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Eric is not easy to beat, he is unbeatable, you can show to mom that he is a pervert trying to fuck the daughters, cheating on her, threatening her son, raping aunt and absolutely nothing can beat he, the best max can do is search for someone else take care of he, very disappointing
- Sep 22, 2017
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I would bet money that there really is no more action than we have already seen with Ann it's just that Alice discovers them and finishes Max off where before Mom got tired and couldn't make him cum. That will probably lead Alice to taking Max to the Doctor....
- Jul 19, 2017
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Ok huge post, but a really good one from Asphyx. Going through your thoughts I think we actually agree on more than we disagree. I don't think any of the recent conversation about the whole thing has been done via "Ericas" and no one has said that he was supposed to be the focal point of the game.
I agree with the botched implementation, and DS had no idea what he was getting into when he started that story. That much is absolutely clear.
I do disagree that his plans are what we currently see. I think it's clear that he always planned to have the player get rid of Eric, but I do think that the player would eventually have seen what Eric did with Alice, as well as the corruption of Lisa via sex ed.
All the while Eric is turning the family against you, and if you bang Kira for the only easy access sex scene you can get while Eric is around, he starts fucking her too. And he can even turn her. It's kinda like when a1fox3 talks about how easy it is to avoid Eric, that's only true if you know the game well in the first place, and thus know what's going to happen ahead of time, and know when and how you need money. It's not hard to get into a money/influence death spiral.
As for the definition, it may really be pointless. BB may be trying to be a voyeur game, and with Ann and Eric it's actually not unsuccessful. Whether it was intended or not, the game pushes those NTR buttons for a lot of people. I'm again, one of those who rails against the overuse of the term, it really does fit well in BB.
I think that it affects people in the same way because the game sets up the family first, sets up Max's desire to fuck all of them, starts the process, then brings in Eric, who not only fucks your mom, but flat out says he's going to fuck your whole family, then takes steps to do so. Where in your example the Dad is fucking the Mom, it's not NTR because it's an established relationship that is the status quo at the start of the game.
Which is why had, say Ann mentioned her Boyfriend/Boss was moving down a few weeks after the family, I think there would have been a LOT less bitching.
I also think that the bulk of the NTR talk is from people who hate the kink with a passion. People call the game NTR at least as much because the stuff with Eric kicks up the same emotional response as 'real' NTR does. So I mean at that point, what is the difference?
And I agree with pretty much all of this. I wasn't following the game when he first showed up, I came in at 0.6 or so, but the whole sequence where Eric is involved is an exercise in frustration. I myself have also said that Eric could have been more or less "fixed" had the friend path actually been worth a damn. And that dueling mentors thing would have been a great idea too. Hell how great would it have been to befriend the douche-bag, then betray him to his death once you get everything you needed from him?
I see where you are coming from, but as I said, at least in recent conversations I haven't seen anyone advocating Eric's return. Mainly we've either been bemoaning how his section was mishandled and feels incomplete, and how after he left there was no longer any real game play. Pretty much all of the stats and things that existed under the hood more or less exist in order to deal with Eric, and combat his influence.
I agree with the botched implementation, and DS had no idea what he was getting into when he started that story. That much is absolutely clear.
I do disagree that his plans are what we currently see. I think it's clear that he always planned to have the player get rid of Eric, but I do think that the player would eventually have seen what Eric did with Alice, as well as the corruption of Lisa via sex ed.
I disagree here. It's easy to deal with Eric because we at this point know what you have to do to get rid of him. For a new player, who is probably still figuring out how to get money reliably (the game really doesn't teach you this) you are likely not even getting the dresses for the girls before Eric does your first time around. Then once the wallet situation hits you need constant cash while you deal with it, or if you stick on the friend route to bide your time you are dealing with a dead end.
All the while Eric is turning the family against you, and if you bang Kira for the only easy access sex scene you can get while Eric is around, he starts fucking her too. And he can even turn her. It's kinda like when a1fox3 talks about how easy it is to avoid Eric, that's only true if you know the game well in the first place, and thus know what's going to happen ahead of time, and know when and how you need money. It's not hard to get into a money/influence death spiral.
As for the definition, it may really be pointless. BB may be trying to be a voyeur game, and with Ann and Eric it's actually not unsuccessful. Whether it was intended or not, the game pushes those NTR buttons for a lot of people. I'm again, one of those who rails against the overuse of the term, it really does fit well in BB.
I think that it affects people in the same way because the game sets up the family first, sets up Max's desire to fuck all of them, starts the process, then brings in Eric, who not only fucks your mom, but flat out says he's going to fuck your whole family, then takes steps to do so. Where in your example the Dad is fucking the Mom, it's not NTR because it's an established relationship that is the status quo at the start of the game.
Which is why had, say Ann mentioned her Boyfriend/Boss was moving down a few weeks after the family, I think there would have been a LOT less bitching.
Here you seem to be arguing against someone who hasn't been a part of the conversation here over the last couple of days. The MOST I have said that is "pro-NTR" would be that it sucks that the Eric path has so many open ends to it. In a game where you peep on EVERYTHING, not seeing what happens in those scenes makes it feel like there is something missing.
I also think that the bulk of the NTR talk is from people who hate the kink with a passion. People call the game NTR at least as much because the stuff with Eric kicks up the same emotional response as 'real' NTR does. So I mean at that point, what is the difference?
- Mar 4, 2017
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Please don't toy with me @DarkSilver. If this don't turn to something involving all of them at the same time, and it being sexy I will cry. Getting all hyped up again after being pretty cold for this update.
- Nov 10, 2017
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I would say "probably not" and that this is just another instance of Alice catching Ann and Max. I have no reason to believe from the pic that she will jump in to finish the job. Of course, I have no reason to believe she won't either. But I would suggest patience.
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I know it will most likely turn into nothing. But I does tug at my imagination. The sooner they get together the better.
I did not know he had been offline that long. But he is busy with the game and the new one. You never know when he will show up, so when he does it will be there, telling him to hop to it. Give us more threesomes.
Hmm, Everyone is talking about Alice catching Max and Ann/Mom, but what if it is a continuation of Alice and Max getting caught by Ann/Mom?? Maybe Ann/Mom continues the 'Home Schooling' that was started in the last movie?? Or maybe since Alice has her shirt on Ann/Mom is answering questions from her daughter??
So many options, so many sex scenes possible. Nope, it's probably just Alice catching Ann/Mom and max and asking questions.
- Jun 5, 2017
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I did not know he had been offline that long. But he is busy with the game and the new one. You never know when he will show up, so when he does it will be there, telling him to hop to it. Give us more threesomes.
I honestly think he really does not care about the opinion of his Patreons, much less with the members here.
here have someone play dual family plz ı lost my saves in last versiyon and ı dont wanna start first time in 0.8 plz if someone have saves dual family help me
- Jul 19, 2017
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Ok, but the difference is, with Eric around there are actual stakes. You NEED to get money by certain periods of time, you have to constantly combat his influence against not only your mom, but your sisters. You have to deal with the stolen wallet situation or its game over, all sorts of things like that. I mean the gameplay was never any good, because there is little to no feedback about how much money you will get from the cams, and it comes off as random, especially early on when you have limited resources.
Once Eric is gone, there is no tension at all. You can take your sweet time and do whatever you want, whenever you want. Choices are meaningless because you will get around to everything eventually, and thus the grind is even more apparent because there is nothing else to keep your attention. Maybe if there was a real threat to lose the house, or some other stuff, then MAYBE there could be some tension. As it is, it's just click around all day, every day and wait for the next thing to unlock. It requires nothing from the player at all. It's just the repetition of scenes until the next one unlocks. It's not gameplay, it's the illusion of such.
And BB isn't unique in this regard. Most life-sims fall into the same pattern. I think they are popular because they provide the illusion of freedom, and allow a lot of scenes with a bare minimum of connective tissue. Man of the House, School, Life and Cousins, and a ton of others all fall into this same trap.
Once Eric is gone, there is no tension at all. You can take your sweet time and do whatever you want, whenever you want. Choices are meaningless because you will get around to everything eventually, and thus the grind is even more apparent because there is nothing else to keep your attention. Maybe if there was a real threat to lose the house, or some other stuff, then MAYBE there could be some tension. As it is, it's just click around all day, every day and wait for the next thing to unlock. It requires nothing from the player at all. It's just the repetition of scenes until the next one unlocks. It's not gameplay, it's the illusion of such.
And BB isn't unique in this regard. Most life-sims fall into the same pattern. I think they are popular because they provide the illusion of freedom, and allow a lot of scenes with a bare minimum of connective tissue. Man of the House, School, Life and Cousins, and a ton of others all fall into this same trap.
By Stakes you mean the game could END leaving you with a SEXLESS Sex game?
Oh that makes the game so much more worth playing now doesn't it?
Please.....