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HunterOrdo

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Jesus, the grind in this game is horrendous. It was like someone saw Stardew Valley, thought adding monster girls and sex was a good idea, which it is, and then did... everything wrong with the implementation to the point I can't help but wonder if this is a Korean MMO in disguise.
 

FeyRing

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so The game is not heavily plot why tear coming down when read please say this some plot i need story or how can i play till the end choose that change the outcome like say am i evil or good after losing my soul this will be base off choose i made and say for end about 5. 1 where you beat the demon lord but your soul was destoy or 2 where you beat the demon lord but him corrort you soul andif you too good you will end your self but only after you have a son or 3 you no good or evil and follow the demon lord or 4 you evil and steal the demon lord place as demon lord or number 5 you you max evil and not only take the place as demon lord you beat and there a bouns fight to beat the evil god because you being that evil off set the order the the world and if you win you fight the other god and become the god of that world.

i know i sure was use , not or
There is a plot line, it's just not crustal to the game play, you wont be forced on a Chapter based rail road. There is one main plot line and there will be many smaller individual character based quest lines. Game ending wise, I currently have 2 main endings planned, one where you marry the Demon Queen and become her consort. Another where you dethrone and exile her while taking the throne yourself. There could be variants of the two endings, like dethroning her and keeping her as a wife. Overall, I am unlikely to include an ending where you go back to living with the Humans, unless it's a minor side ending like the ones that already exist. Also, Demon Queen is not "evil" and Humans are not "good", though this could vary based on personal perspective of the player and what values they hold dear to the heart.

Also, while I don't rule out the possibility of the player becoming a minor deity somewhere through the quest line, the player wont become the god of the whole world.

Overall, the game is not going to be very dark/serious to the point where the player is given any truly evil options (though again this could vary based on player perspective of what "evil" is).

I found an unfortunate bug in Aria's hut. I tried to touch her chemicals on the lower right, while she was offscreen to the left. It triggered the sound of her trying to stop me (because I was not a friend yet), but no text window appeared so I was just frozen there.
Other than that I haven't encountered any bugs yet, so it seems very clean.
That sounds rather strange, I'll have a look into this, thanks!

how do i give her presents tho? when i talk with her there is no option to do so
Select the Gift in your inventory first, it will then display your sprite carrying a present, after that, talk to any female NPC and you will have the option to gift it.

The options selection in the status screen just sets the hotbar.
Is there a seperate one with the systems stuff like adjusting the music volume, making the character always be a running speed etc?
Update: Never mind, I found the sprint toggle option on the items section.
I plan to try and address the Volume Options in the next public release.
 

HunterOrdo

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Going off what I just said, there are a lot of little design choices in this game that just baffle me.

Like take the alchemy chick, she is fairly far away, so walking all the way to her, every day, to get relationship points up is tedious and it wouldn't be so bad if the walk/run speed wasn't fucking awful and the transition scenes [even if you turn them off] not so long. I had to turn cheat engine on and double the speed just to not want to scream bloody murder at the heavens.

Or the event where the goblin steals the workbench you.. kinda need to actually, you know, do a lot of the crap in the game and if, from what I hear, it is a random chance, why the fuck is that in the game at all? Was it designed, intentionally, to make the player get 4-8 hours into the game, look at the walkthrough going, 'how can I get a workbench if I can't even build..' and go.. oh... so... my options are redoing my playthrough or continue to pray to the RNG Gods above to let the goblin have it? Why in the nine hells isn't that just a quest? Goblin sold it to the merchant. You can talk to the merchant and purchase it back once you get some rep. Its not RNG orientated, you can still keep that event in [for whatever reason possessed them to do so] and it doesn't make you wanna flip the game off.

I have a lot of these little things that add up to just make this game infuriating to playthrough and its maddening because the game has so much good qualities that it could be great but... just.. some decisions baffle me. Its like it was put in because they thought it was a good idea at the time and just.. never thought about it again, or have realized how dumb it is but its already in and going back to fix it is more work then they deem is valued, so fuck it, leave it in.

Just... Man. If they wanted to make a Korean MMO inspired sex game, they did it.
 

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Related to the grind I think it will become much better when the game has a lot more content, overall the only truly bad thing is unlocking all skill trees in this game, because it's really RNG. Overall I would recommend to buff a bit the character creation in the sense of adding a free skill tree based on the character origin, for example:

-Noble -> gets free charisma skill tree
-Normal peasant -> gets free trade skill tree
-Poor -> gets free lockpicking skill tree

Even more it would be nice that the starting missions of the game could be solved with any of those skill trees, for example to help the prisoner you can:

a) Use your charisma to seduce the goblin and have sex with her, then steal the key.
b) Bribe the guard to let you free the prisoner
c) Use a lockpick to liberate him.

It's okay to have RNG but it shouldn't be too annoying to the MC or make it really hard to complete some missions.
 

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Related to the grind I think it will become much better when the game has a lot more content, overall the only truly bad thing is unlocking all skill trees in this game, because it's really RNG. Overall I would recommend to buff a bit the character creation in the sense of adding a free skill tree based on the character origin, for example:

-Noble -> gets free charisma skill tree
-Normal peasant -> gets free trade skill tree
-Poor -> gets free lockpicking skill tree

Even more it would be nice that the starting missions of the game could be solved with any of those skill trees, for example to help the prisoner you can:

a) Use your charisma to seduce the goblin and have sex with her, then steal the key.
b) Bribe the guard to let you free the prisoner
c) Use a lockpick to liberate him.

It's okay to have RNG but it shouldn't be too annoying to the MC or make it really hard to complete some missions.
To save the prisoner, you can use lockpicks to save him. You can run to the blacksmith, buy 5 lockpicks and release him.
 

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Like take the alchemy chick, she is fairly far away, so walking all the way to her, every day, to get relationship points up is tedious
You can just stand next to her house and pass time using the Copper Watch if you rescued Furo from Goblin prison at the start... or if you crafted/found a Copper Watch.

There are going to be much further locations in game, but a fast travel feature will also be implemented eventually as the world map expands. There are also going to be other locations nodes where you can rest in the future, you wont be just limited to your house in the Goblin Village. One example of this, is that you can sleep in Aria's bed once you are Lover/Husband.

Or the event where the goblin steals the workbench you.. kinda need to actually, you know, do a lot of the crap in the game and if, from what I hear, it is a random chance, why the fuck is that in the game at all? Was it designed, intentionally, to make the player get 4-8 hours into the game, look at the walkthrough going, 'how can I get a workbench if I can't even build..' and go.. oh... so... my options are redoing my playthrough or continue to pray to the RNG Gods above to let the goblin have it? Why in the nine hells isn't that just a quest?
It's not RNG. You need the Charisma Skill for the option to come up. You can also get a free Construction Bench if you give Aria a Black Dye in her 2nd Quest, so it is featured as a quest reward.

Related to the grind I think it will become much better when the game has a lot more content, overall the only truly bad thing is unlocking all skill trees in this game, because it's really RNG.
All the Skill Books which are not acquired through quests can be purchased from a Demon Girl NPC on the second floor of the Brothel on Saturday (except White Magic).

Overall I would recommend to buff a bit the character creation in the sense of adding a free skill tree based on the character origin, for example:

-Noble -> gets free charisma skill tree
-Normal peasant -> gets free trade skill tree
-Poor -> gets free lockpicking skill tree
I think what might be happening is that a lot of people are sinking most of their points into stats or perks at the start as there is no easy way to get them later on in the game (yet), so they struggle with early game as they end up with no skills.

Even more it would be nice that the starting missions of the game could be solved with any of those skill trees, for example to help the prisoner you can:

a) Use your charisma to seduce the goblin and have sex with her, then steal the key.
b) Bribe the guard to let you free the prisoner
c) Use a lockpick to liberate him.
Well it sort of works like that already, you can convince the Goblin to escort the prisoner yourself, Lockpick the door yourself, bring lockpicks to Furo or Pickpocket the Key from the Goblin Guard.

It's okay to have RNG but it shouldn't be too annoying to the MC or make it really hard to complete some missions.
A lot of the missions were designed with the assumption that the player will do them in parallel rather than focussing on just one. Though, as the world expands, it will hopefully feel less grindy as more opportunities to find what your looking for will emerge.
 
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There is a plot line, it's just not crustal to the game play, you wont be forced on a Chapter based rail road. There is one main plot line and there will be many smaller individual character based quest lines. Game ending wise, I currently have 2 main endings planned, one where you marry the Demon Queen and become her consort. Another where you dethrone and exile her while taking the throne yourself. There could be variants of the two endings, like dethroning her and keeping her as a wife. Overall, I am unlikely to include an ending where you go back to living with the Humans, unless it's a minor side ending like the ones that already exist. Also, Demon Queen is not "evil" and Humans are not "good", though this could vary based on personal perspective of the player and what values they hold dear to the heart.
Very cool of you to consider endings that aren't femdom. I understand it's the main focus on the game and to some extent it's going to be unavoidable, but a lot of players prefer an assertive main character, myself included. There's something oddly satisfying about smug semen demons being surprised by the MC taking the lead.

The Aria update was a massive lore dump of the world's setting, which I personally find very interesting. Which version of the origin of the world is the "real" one though, if you're not afraid of answering that?
I personally thought it's neither, as in both legends have a bit of truth to them but are obviously biased. This could be the key to some kind of peaceful coexistence plot point, however cliché that may be.

Another question: will we see human women in this game, even if as passive NPCs with little interactions?
 

FeyRing

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Very cool of you to consider endings that aren't femdom. I understand it's the main focus on the game and to some extent it's going to be unavoidable
I actually plan to have it possible to complete the game without participating in any sex scenes at all, so that would mean that femdom as a whole could also be avoided. It wont be easy though!

but a lot of players prefer an assertive main character, myself included. There's something oddly satisfying about smug semen demons being surprised by the MC taking the lead.
I'm about 70/30 on Femdom/Maledom so the game will likely reflect that in a similar proportion on the scene content most likely.

The Aria update was a massive lore dump of the world's setting, which I personally find very interesting. Which version of the origin of the world is the "real" one though, if you're not afraid of answering that?
I personally thought it's neither, as in both legends have a bit of truth to them but are obviously biased. This could be the key to some kind of peaceful coexistence plot point, however cliché that may be.
You are correct, there is some truth in both versions and a lot of it was written in symbolic/metaphorical language as the people of the current time and the past were unable to grasp an actual detailed explanation of the origin or of the events that transpired at the time.

Another question: will we see human women in this game, even if as passive NPCs with little interactions?
Yes!

I have several ideas on how to handle them, including the possibility of taking them as Slaves for yourself, possibly turning them into Monster Girls etc.

One direction for the plotline that I was considering is having the player take over a Human Fort on the orders of the Demon Queen. Where there will be some Human Women guards whose fate the player will need to decide on.

Though, this will likely be after the Werewolf and Witch regions are done, so it is a long way off still.

Working at Aria's store also provides an opportunity for interaction with NPCs so it could also be a way to meet (and maybe fuck??) some Human Women in theory.
 

HunterOrdo

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You can just stand next to her house and pass time using the Copper Watch if you rescued Furo from Goblin prison at the start... or if you crafted/found a Copper Watch.

There are going to be much further locations in game, but a fast travel feature will also be implemented eventually as the world map expands. There are also going to be other locations nodes where you can rest in the future, you wont be just limited to your house in the Goblin Village. One example of this, is that you can sleep in Aria's bed once you are Lover/Husband.

It's not RNG. You need the Charisma Skill for the option to come up. You can also get a free Construction Bench if you give Aria a Black Dye in her 2nd Quest, so it is featured as a quest reward.
Which is fine and dandy, but the character also has to be hitting the mines in order to get through the horrendous skill grind which resets each day. So you hit the mines, grind that awful crafting skill at the speed of li.. snail. Speed of snail. Mine all the nodes, walk all the way to the alchemist, give her the gift, walk all the way back, rest to recover your health, and repeat. Its tedious. When a game is tedious, that isn't good. Progress should feel fun not, 'jesus christ, who is ready to spend the next three hours grinding crafting just to open an average locked door!... no one.' Maybe you should look into doing something sooner rather then 'sometime, it will be better' such as increasing the run speed or finding a way to cut down transition times.

Great, so you mean its not RNG but a hidden skill check that you don't know exist? That's...... I wouldn't say better, but it exist. If you have it as a hidden skill check [seriously, why?] then why bother to offer it as a quest reward? Its not like having two if you do both is helping you. Why is it a separate quest reward to give dye rather then peppercorn? If the dye option is the better option, why have the peppercorn option at all? I gave peppercorn because the RNG gods had that appear in the merchant first.
 
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FeyRing I just want to say, after marrying Saffron,
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Also...I'm kinda curious about something. A few games ended because I take probably the two nastiest flaws for being a whore (sub+pervert), and I tend to get fetishes so high I get collared pretty early and GG, game over. This last gameplay, I married Saffron (I seriously held back so she was my first everything except pregnancy <_<) and I noticed...I'm lasting waaaaaaaay longer than my previous playthroughs and my corruption is definitely way worse. Is the MC immune from being enslaved/claimed by other goblins while hes married? I have like 8 fetishes that are all level 5, I can't help but think this is whats saving me...(its the only factor I can see differently from my previous games, besides waiting a little longer to become "the town bicycle")
 
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FeyRing I just want to say, after marrying Saffron,
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Also...I'm kinda curious about something. A few games ended because I take probably the two nastiest flaws for being a whore (sub+pervert), and I tend to get fetishes so high I get collared pretty early and GG, game over. This last gameplay, I married Saffron (I seriously held back so she was my first everything except pregnancy <_<) and I noticed...I'm lasting waaaaaaaay longer than my previous playthroughs and my corruption is definitely way worse. Is the MC immune from being enslaved/claimed by other goblins while hes married? I have like 8 fetishes that are all level 5, I can't help but think this is whats saving me...(its the only factor I can see differently from my previous games, besides waiting a little longer to become "the town bicycle")
Please correct me if I'm wrong, but I think it's tied to a Willpower check.
 

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Please correct me if I'm wrong, but I think it's tied to a Willpower check.
I'm asking because I don't know. But my WP would be absolutely garbage right now. I have so many fetishes maxed out I can't really stop anything. All I know is, I got taken away/game over way earlier than the point I'm at now, and that was the only factor different
 

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How do you fix the lense for Aria? can't find any recipes or any hints, and I have a feeling I might miss something important if I don't complete the bonus objective, any words of widsom?
 
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will there ever be a teleport system? cause honestly running back and forth is annoying.
Dev has said probably yes, once the overall map gets bigger. Not until later though, after a couple-ish more areas are made.
 

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Another grindfest that considers sex as bad and punishes you for having sex. It makes me think that the developer is a closet moralist. There are some hot scenes, but God the grind!
 

FeyRing

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Which is fine and dandy, but the character also has to be hitting the mines in order to get through the horrendous skill grind which resets each day. So you hit the mines, grind that awful crafting skill at the speed of li.. snail. Speed of snail. Mine all the nodes, walk all the way to the alchemist, give her the gift, walk all the way back, rest to recover your health, and repeat. Its tedious.
It would be less tedious if instead of leveling the skill through the nodes in the mine you picked up the ones along the way to her house instead if you're trying to do both at once. There are plenty of mining nodes on the way to her house.

The game currently does not really support skill levels above 2 as they are meant for higher tier content (which will give more exp) which doesn't exist yet. As such, most skill don't offer any benefit above level 2.

Maybe you should look into doing something sooner rather then 'sometime, it will be better' such as increasing the run speed or finding a way to cut down transition times.
I don't see any issues with the run speed, setting it any higher creates difficulty with aligning yourself with events. I might consider adding some sort of Haste spell or Potion to temporarily boost it but the current default is satisfactory in my opinion.

The transition screens can be turned off in the extra options. Their main use is in masking the brief 1-2 second delay at the start when new nodes and drops get generated upon entering the map for the first time that day.

Why is it a separate quest reward to give dye rather then peppercorn? If the dye option is the better option, why have the peppercorn option at all? I gave peppercorn because the RNG gods had that appear in the merchant first.
For a number of reasons:

1) Peppercorn is easier to acquire so the quest can be completed faster with less rewards if the player is impatient.

2) The player may, as you have mentioned yourself, already have a Construction Workbench, so they might not need a second one, thus they are more likely to choose the Peppercorn route.

3) The player may have either the Peppercorn or the Dye before they even started the quest, this gives them more flexibility in completing the quest.

All of Aria's Quests have Optional objectives that have additional rewards associated with them, there is nothing wrong with having bonus objectives in a quest line.

'jesus christ, who is ready to spend the next three hours grinding crafting just to open an average locked door!... no one.'
There is a cheat sheet in the game that lets you get infinite money, if you use the money to buy infinite skill books in the brothel you essentially have infinite craft exp. Or you could buy however much you feel would be fair in your opinion for the time you invested.

I like some grind in games that I play hence the way this game is made. However, I added plenty of options for people who don't enjoy that sort of thing to bypass it and progress at the pace that's fair to them (or I hope I did at least).

Why can't that be part of the bedroom roleplay? If it was, I'd give up the brothel work entirely.
This was a while back now so I don't recall exactly why, but I think my initial reasoning was to keep it a bit more tame for the initial few Heroines, at least as far as their standard scenes were concerned. And since I still wanted to add a more dommy scene for her I just stuck it in the Brothel instead. But glad you liked it!

Is the MC immune from being enslaved/claimed by other goblins while hes married? I have like 8 fetishes that are all level 5, I can't help but think this is whats saving me...(its the only factor I can see differently from my previous games, besides waiting a little longer to become "the town bicycle")
It shouldn't have an affect. By default it can only happen with a Goblin Milf in the Brothel. If you give her a Perfect Fuck, there is a 5% chance that she will try to enslave you. If you are a Noble this chance increases by 10%. If you are Handsome then it increases by an additional 10% and if you are Gorgeous it increases by 25%. Beautiful Voice gives an additional 5% chance and Submissive gives +10% chance. Virile gives +15% chance. There are also various chance increases for impregnating her that round, being a Virgin, etc...

The Fetishes only increase the chance of giving her a Perfect Fuck in the first place and decrease your resistance once she starts trying to enslave you.

Please correct me if I'm wrong, but I think it's tied to a Willpower check.
Well the Resistance to her advances is, but not the initial check whether she makes the attempt or not.

How do you fix the lense for Aria? can't find any recipes or any hints, and I have a feeling I might miss something important if I don't complete the bonus objective, any words of widsom?
It should be learned automatically at Level 2 Artifice. You can also find it rarely in Artifice Satchels. You get more affection from her for doing it yourself, some different dialogue and a bonus to your future Seduction/Persuasion/Haggle rolls against her.

Dev has said probably yes, once the overall map gets bigger. Not until later though, after a couple-ish more areas are made.
I'll probably start rolling it out with the next area release.

I would like to mention in advance though, that fast travel will use consumables, ones that are relatively cheap to buy/make and which are always for sale.

It makes me think that the developer is a closet moralist.
Yes... you got me I confess! Sex is EVIL!
 

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FeyRing Ah, shes got a 35% chance with my current playthrough, and its been roughly that for all of them. So on that note, I've just been super lucky. Okay, so I just have to really beware of MILFs (actually that might be whats saving me, for whatever reason this playthough, I've been getting a lot of Virgin RNG, its the first time I got a virgin fetish)

I super like that scene, and while I think its fair that if I'm gonna sleep around, she's allowed to as well, would you be willing to add an option as her husband to tip her off you'll be working the brothel that night and hint for her to come visit you (whether she's loving or slut) and it increases the odds of her being one of your customers? (I just love that scene so much, I wanna make that reoccurring) side note: if she does catch you in the brothel, the MC should just make it a freebie.

(sorry I don't wanna be one of those demanding/rude people, this is just my thoughts on what is otherwise really excellent. Saffron's dom scene is like my ideal, if she just added a strap into the mix. "If you can't be the man to come and fuck you're wife, I'll just have to show you how to do your job" bam! bitch for the night!)
 

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I super like that scene, and while I think its fair that if I'm gonna sleep around, she's allowed to as well, would you be willing to add an option as her husband to tip her off you'll be working the brothel that night and hint for her to come visit you (whether she's loving or slut) and it increases the odds of her being one of your customers? (I just love that scene so much, I wanna make that reoccurring) side note: if she does catch you in the brothel, the MC should just make it a freebie.

(sorry I don't wanna be one of those demanding/rude people, this is just my thoughts on what is otherwise really excellent. Saffron's dom scene is like my ideal, if she just added a strap into the mix. "If you can't be the man to come and fuck you're wife, I'll just have to show you how to do your job" bam! bitch for the night!)
I can't really promise anything on the strapon side of things as I'm trying to focus on new species for now and that would probably require a whole new scene with art etc. But I will try to see if I can do something in regard to making that brothel scene more replayable. Maybe something along the lines of: if you had that scene once in the brothel, you can just request to have sex with her there again in ''roleplay'' fashion from her usual sex selection and it would just teleport you to the brothel and activate that scene and you wont get paid for it. Though if you get the scene naturally while working in the brothel then it wont be "roleplay" and she will still pay at the end?
 
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