RPGM Bones' Tales: The Manor [v0.20.0a] [Dr Bones]

[Anão3682]

Relax fellas animation is a pain in the ass and we know his art style got much better (see teaser) which would make the animation process longer and harder to accomplish, Doc is just complete shit (to an extreme) when it comes to release dates. I'm not happy about how long it takes for him to update (I stopped coming to this site for like 5 months and didn't miss a thing and had zero worries that I'd actually miss something) and how often he pushes back release dates, but it's good to know that hes got his heart and mind in the right place (withholding update to make improvements - although he should communicate MUCH more about what he's doing and his reasoning) unfortunately he doesn't know that we don't have our dicks where they should be, firmly grasped in our hands. Last thing we want is for him to get burnout, hes gotta juggle two game (thx Patreon) which might be a blessing in disguise as he can mix things up a bit to avoid burnout however that's gonna boost our waiting time so it's give and take, but if he's gonna crank out 30-40 hours a week (somewhat unlikely) I can assume he'll get tired of it eventually. He should also do streaming again as a method of showing off some of his work and the progress hes made and do monthly teaser releases. But the update isn't small so obviously it's gonna take some good time, here's a breakdown of the new content we can expect.

Beasty:

Vera & Doggo rework + variations - from Trello & Teaser

Sex:

Martha, Vera, Lucile handjob scenes + variations (3 separate scenes not just one foursome) - from Trello
Martha first time sex rework - from Teaser
Vera bathing peep cg - from Trello
Two Vera bathroom scene/reworks - from Teaser
Two Martha bathroom scenes/reworks - from Teaser
Two Lucile hide and seek scenes/reworks - from teaser

Bonus:

Bug fixes - from Trello
Sprite Rework + outfit variations - from Trello
Bust tweaks + outfit variations - from Trello
Assorted Extras - from Trello
States Diary Art - from Trello

Total:
12 new/reworked scenes many with variations
Bunch of other stuff

Note: I think that there was a teaser of Lucile but I can't find it so it could actually be 13 scenes.

Do you see the above crap? It's the "from Trello" & "from Teaser" that I'm referring to. As far as I know I'm the only one that does this snooping around a bit and to compile all the info we have on updates into one post like this (I've done this once or twice before), which is concrete evidence that Doc's communication is fairly shit on this site. I would bet money that plenty of you had no clue the next update would have over 10 scenes and a bunch of other content and I'm not trying to blame you for it. The only real sources many of us get is stuff that a few people get from the Discord, myself included. The next update definitely has some meat on it's bones and it's all higher quality content than the usual, if you look at the teaser (linked in my art gallery under my guide) you'll see that Doc's artwork has noticeably improved from his previous work. Not only that but he's changing scenes entirely, the best example is the Martha first time sex scene which has a different view point and looks much better. Doc has crap communications skills on this site and hes quite shit with due dates, cant imagine the hell he caused in school. As an artist he's improved a fair amount which is a good sign to say the least.

Link to teaser for the lazy:
https://f95zone.to/threads/bones-tales-the-manor-v0-15-2-dr-bones.8918/post-3897293


Edit: After looking again for the missing Lucile image I mentioned above (still didn't find it) I instead found an image of Lucile at the beach that Doc made which I had no idea was there, if any of you post an image or see an image that has been posted please notify me so that I may add it to the art collection under the guide, thanks.

If any of you know where the teaser is please link it as a reply to this post thanks

All my problems are about the lack of communication and the huge problem he got with keeping deadlines (when you almost never gives info about progress, and in the rare times you give they're deadlines, keep them please, or at least keep them far ahead enough for you to work)
Never complained even a bit about the actual content, his stuff is top tier. The new stuff promises even more.

Btw, I'm a bit confused about one thing (I'm just being mean but I'm also truly curious): did people bugged him to start all those other projects he got planned? Because if not, the thing about juggling multiple projects it's only on his head.

 

[TrialRagnarok]

All my problems are about the lack of communication and the huge problem he got with keeping deadlines (when you almost never gives info about progress, and in the rare times you give they're deadlines, keep them please, or at least keep them far ahead enough for you to work)
Never complained even a bit about the actual content, his stuff is top tier. The new stuff promises even more.

Btw, I'm a bit confused about one thing (I'm just being mean but I'm also truly curious): did people bugged him to start all those other projects he got planned? Because if not, the thing about juggling multiple projects it's only on his head.

Besides SG, I haven't noticed any other projects being worked on simultaneously. That being said, I was away from the server for like 2-3 weeks so I probably missed something hahaha

Only thing I heard of future projects was a mini "prequel" to The Manor but to my knowledge he just has the idea to do it, he hasn't started it yet or anything.

 

[Anão3682]

Besides SG, I haven't noticed any other projects being worked on simultaneously. That being said, I was away from the server for like 2-3 weeks so I probably missed something hahaha

Only thing I heard of future projects was a mini "prequel" to The Manor but to my knowledge he just has the idea to do it, he hasn't started it yet or anything.

Yep, for now it's just The Manor and SG (two is already too many as things are now). There's a bunch of future projects and if he starts working on any of them...
...I can't and won't do anything besides complaining, being a dick...and I just hope that his poor time management goes to the side of "I barely can mantain two games" than "one more can't hurt"

 

[Golem98]

Last teaser. The Lucile one.
PS. It's a thumbnail so just click it for the original resolution.

EDIT: Also the beach one isn't gonna be in 0.16, as far as I remember. He mentioned it a while ago on the Discord server so I might be wrong.
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Thanks TrialRagnarok you've found the teaser I was talking about and we now have evidence of a 13th scene in the next update

The teaser with Lucile at beach won't be in the game.
It was something he made to relive some stres after some people started atacking him on his discord

Lurky the lurker Thanks friend but I knew the beach image wasn't the teaser as the post that had a quote from Doc saying "NOT A TEASER Just some extra art to unwind, will NOT be on 0.16". Sorry for not being clear enough in my original post.

All my problems are about the lack of communication and the huge problem he got with keeping deadlines (when you almost never gives info about progress, and in the rare times you give they're deadlines, keep them please, or at least keep them far ahead enough for you to work)
Never complained even a bit about the actual content, his stuff is top tier. The new stuff promises even more.

Btw, I'm a bit confused about one thing (I'm just being mean but I'm also truly curious): did people bugged him to start all those other projects he got planned? Because if not, the thing about juggling multiple projects it's only on his head.

I completely agree with you that he has clear communication issues however I believe part of our problem is focusing all if not most of our attention on this site rather than to go to the discord. I believe part of his problem is over estimating how quickly hes able to complete his animations (although he should've learned by now). I myself have some experience with animating and know that making a fairly shit (really, really bad) animation takes quite a bit of time so his significantly more detailed (skin tones, lighting, positions, basic human anatomy) animations will take much longer and on top of that hes gotta do it alone while also working on all the other aspects of a game. Hes not trying to make good porn, hes trying to make a good game and many people forget that.

 

[X0M3!]

If there wasn't enough chatter on the thread already, here comes Golem98 with his essay(C-). Time to hit Ignore Thread Button Once again.

 

[lo0u]

Relax fellas animation is a pain in the ass and we know his art style got much better (see teaser) which would make the animation process longer and harder to accomplish, Doc is just complete shit (to an extreme) when it comes to release dates. I'm not happy about how long it takes for him to update (I stopped coming to this site for like 5 months and didn't miss a thing and had zero worries that I'd actually miss something) and how often he pushes back release dates, but it's good to know that hes got his heart and mind in the right place (withholding update to make improvements - although he should communicate MUCH more about what he's doing and his reasoning) unfortunately he doesn't know that we don't have our dicks where they should be, firmly grasped in our hands. Last thing we want is for him to get burnout, hes gotta juggle two game (thx Patreon) which might be a blessing in disguise as he can mix things up a bit to avoid burnout however that's gonna boost our waiting time so it's give and take, but if he's gonna crank out 30-40 hours a week (somewhat unlikely) I can assume he'll get tired of it eventually. He should also do streaming again as a method of showing off some of his work and the progress hes made and do monthly teaser releases. But the update isn't small so obviously it's gonna take some good time, here's a breakdown of the new content we can expect.

Beasty:

Vera & Doggo rework + variations - from Trello & Teaser

Sex:

Martha, Vera, Lucile handjob scenes + variations (3 separate scenes not just one foursome) - from Trello
Martha first time sex rework - from Teaser
Vera bathing peep cg - from Trello
Two Vera bathroom scene/reworks - from Teaser
Two Martha bathroom scenes/reworks - from Teaser
Two Lucile hide and seek scenes/reworks - from teaser

Bonus:

Bug fixes - from Trello
Sprite Rework + outfit variations - from Trello
Bust tweaks + outfit variations - from Trello
Assorted Extras - from Trello
States Diary Art - from Trello

Total:
12 new/reworked scenes many with variations
Bunch of other stuff

Note: I think that there was a teaser of Lucile but I can't find it so it could actually be 13 scenes.

Do you see the above crap? It's the "from Trello" & "from Teaser" that I'm referring to. As far as I know I'm the only one that does this snooping around a bit and to compile all the info we have on updates into one post like this (I've done this once or twice before), which is concrete evidence that Doc's communication is fairly shit on this site. I would bet money that plenty of you had no clue the next update would have over 10 scenes and a bunch of other content and I'm not trying to blame you for it. The only real sources many of us get is stuff that a few people get from the Discord, myself included. The next update definitely has some meat on it's bones and it's all higher quality content than the usual, if you look at the teaser (linked in my art gallery under my guide) you'll see that Doc's artwork has noticeably improved from his previous work. Not only that but he's changing scenes entirely, the best example is the Martha first time sex scene which has a different view point and looks much better. Doc has crap communications skills on this site and hes quite shit with due dates, cant imagine the hell he caused in school. As an artist he's improved a fair amount which is a good sign to say the least.

Link to teaser for the lazy:
https://f95zone.to/threads/bones-tales-the-manor-v0-15-2-dr-bones.8918/post-3897293


Edit: After looking again for the missing Lucile image I mentioned above (still didn't find it) I instead found an image of Lucile at the beach that Doc made which I had no idea was there, if any of you post an image or see an image that has been posted please notify me so that I may add it to the art collection under the guide, thanks.

If any of you know where the teaser is please link it as a reply to this post thanks

While I appreciate that, I certainly hope there's more than just reworks. No matter how they good they might end up being, it's going to be disappointing not seeing new scenes with all the girls. I mean, I've been waiting for so long for Mia stuff and progression with Lucile's cosplay scenes, for instance. It'll be frustrating if there isn't anything new about that, considering how long it takes for each update.

 

[exirock]

I completely agree with you that he has clear communication issues however I believe part of our problem is focusing all if not most of our attention on this site rather than to go to the discord. I believe part of his problem is over estimating how quickly hes able to complete his animations (although he should've learned by now). I myself have some experience with animating and know that making a fairly shit (really, really bad) animation takes quite a bit of time so his significantly more detailed (skin tones, lighting, positions, basic human anatomy) animations will take much longer and on top of that hes gotta do it alone while also working on all the other aspects of a game. Hes not trying to make good porn, hes trying to make a good game and many people forget that.

Well we pay more attention here then on discord cause u almost like in jail on discord, here we free to talk and express and ask question while on discord if u ask a question about the update u get banned, that is why 95% of the people on the 3 discord servers dont even talk or interact, the previews are always good to see but they are not enough for the lacking on info about the update.

His animations are complex cause he choose that way, he simply cuts his CG image and puts them into layers and then on rpg maker he goes moves the layer in a sequence to make the animations which it will turn into hard work and perhaps take him a week to go in and out to touch the image, from my own expirience doing animations if i feel good and nothing is bothering me i can do a animation full colored in one day (talking about sequence H-scene with BG) but since recently i have been learning new ways to do better art etc perhaps 4-5days, doing a sequence animation takes less time then the way he does the animation and he should try it would make it easier for him and for sure with the art he has on a good sequence animation it would look very good. (the only issue i have with his animations are the art not being clean (u can see color leftovers around, bad lines etc))

 

[gyalis]

Ok I'll acknowledge his point so I'm gonna wait a whole week before posting "All skeletons do is lie"

 

[Anão3682]

Thanks TrialRagnarok you've found the teaser I was talking about and we now have evidence of a 13th scene in the next update



Lurky the lurker Thanks friend but I knew the beach image wasn't the teaser as the post that had a quote from Doc saying "NOT A TEASER Just some extra art to unwind, will NOT be on 0.16". Sorry for not being clear enough in my original post.



I completely agree with you that he has clear communication issues however I believe part of our problem is focusing all if not most of our attention on this site rather than to go to the discord. I believe part of his problem is over estimating how quickly hes able to complete his animations (although he should've learned by now). I myself have some experience with animating and know that making a fairly shit (really, really bad) animation takes quite a bit of time so his significantly more detailed (skin tones, lighting, positions, basic human anatomy) animations will take much longer and on top of that hes gotta do it alone while also working on all the other aspects of a game. Hes not trying to make good porn, hes trying to make a good game and many people forget that.

Art is not easy, animation even more. We know this, doc knows even more.
So stop giving us deadlines then, and spend on it the time you want.

I feel like I already said this a thousand of times. It's getting boring.

however I believe part of our problem is focusing all if not most of our attention on this site rather than to go to the discord.

Uh
No. I check his twitter, once in a while I check the discord too. Even the info there is not of much use.
And he's probably even reading this, but just doesn't care much about showing up.

 

[Anão3682]

Ok I'll acknowledge his point so I'm gonna wait a whole week before posting "All skeletons do is lie"

Third is the charm. After lying another time the update will magically show up.

 

[TrialRagnarok]

Ok I'll acknowledge his point so I'm gonna wait a whole week before posting "All skeletons do is lie"

 

[DevilK]

Even if game is released this weekend only those who paying will get the game public release might take a week or two

 

[TrialRagnarok]

Even if game is released this weekend only those who paying will get the game public release might take a week or two

Nah, last time it was available like 2 days later or earlier. After all, you can't do shit about someone sharing it. Even games like Paralogue (if I remember the name correctly) have DRM that takes little to crack and see the update in here.

 

[DevilK]

Nah, last time it was available like 2 days later or earlier. After all, you can't do shit about someone sharing it. Even games like Paralogue (if I remember the name correctly) have DRM that takes little to crack and see the update in here.

Can't do shit about it besides waiting

 

[Odin Eye Patch]

check svscomics later to see if someone as uploaded it there

 

[Airianov]

My heart are full of dust and hope. Maybe by morning, when I wake up, a good news can arrive

 

[Suprizer]

My heart are full of dust and hope. Maybe by morning, when I wake up, a good news can arrive

thats me for last 3 weeks at this point mine only includes dust

 

[Golem98]

If there wasn't enough chatter on the thread already, here comes Golem98 with his essay(C-). Time to hit Ignore Thread Button Once again.

Well I never took my English class seriously so that's alright

While I appreciate that, I certainly hope there's more than just reworks. No matter how they good they might end up being, it's going to be disappointing not seeing new scenes with all the girls. I mean, I've been waiting for so long for Mia stuff and progression with Lucile's cosplay scenes, for instance. It'll be frustrating if there isn't anything new about that, considering how long it takes for each update.

I agree with you that new scenes are good to have but disagree that just reworks would be disappointing, from what I can tell some of these reworks are too extensive to be considered reworks and are more like completely redone scenes (this is most evident with Martha's first time sex scene). There are also some things that are called reworks but actually contain new scenes (see the teaser link in my op - Martha in the bath is an example) or could be used as the base to make new scenes in the future. I would also like to get a few more cosplay scenes but they feel more like a side piece in the game's story so I'm not so sure how much Doc will prioritize them.

Well we pay more attention here then on discord cause u almost like in jail on discord, here we free to talk and express and ask question while on discord if u ask a question about the update u get banned, that is why 95% of the people on the 3 discord servers dont even talk or interact, the previews are always good to see but they are not enough for the lacking on info about the update.

His animations are complex cause he choose that way, he simply cuts his CG image and puts them into layers and then on rpg maker he goes moves the layer in a sequence to make the animations which it will turn into hard work and perhaps take him a week to go in and out to touch the image, from my own expirience doing animations if i feel good and nothing is bothering me i can do a animation full colored in one day (talking about sequence H-scene with BG) but since recently i have been learning new ways to do better art etc perhaps 4-5days, doing a sequence animation takes less time then the way he does the animation and he should try it would make it easier for him and for sure with the art he has on a good sequence animation it would look very good. (the only issue i have with his animations are the art not being clean (u can see color leftovers around, bad lines etc))

Glad to hear you have some experience with animation. I disagree when you say his animations are complex because he "simply cuts his CG image and puts them into layers and then on rpg maker he goes moves the layer in a sequence to make the animation..." this in my opinion is easily one of if not the best method he can take to cut down on time rather than to redraw and use onion layers as reference for example. He still needs to do some redrawing but only to hide the cuts he makes and to make smooth out transitions from one image to the next so the overall animation looks good. Also I believe that the method he uses is quite limited as it works primarily with pivot points, such as the joints on a person's body however, this method has it's limitations so he likely mixes in another animation technique such as the onion layer one I mentioned. I agree with you that some of his animations are unclean (I think one of the Horse scenes was a good example of this but I don't remember which one) yet these are mostly for the older ones and the more recent ones are made with a higher standard (such as the Jules scene from the previous update) and I believe this new update which is filled with reworks will at least fix some of the poorer quality animations.

Art is not easy, animation even more. We know this, doc knows even more.
So stop giving us deadlines then, and spend on it the time you want.

I feel like I already said this a thousand of times. It's getting boring.

Uh
No. I check his twitter, once in a while I check the discord too. Even the info there is not of much use.
And he's probably even reading this, but just doesn't care much about showing up.

You and I are on the same page, I'm not happy about the constant delays and have also been quite critical of Doc's poor communication skills and his inability to stick to his deadlines. I wont blindly defend him (hard to after he consistently misses deadlines by significant margins for however many past updates including this one) but I'm going to provide a bit more context, such as my post containing a breakdown of what we can expect in the next update. My reasoning for making that post was to give people an idea of what Doc has been doing these past months and what they can expect in the next update, as a way to hopefully help people calm down a bit. Naturally no matter how I word the post it's going to seem like it's defending Doc even though I've filled it with complaints and criticisms against him. The push back I've gotten (very little so far but lets give it time for other timezones to wake up) is a little strange as it seems they (you and Mac40 so far) disagree with me even though we have the same complaints and I've made it quite clear that I'm unhappy with Doc's tardiness and communication? And in regards to your claim of checking his Twitter and Discord and how useless they are I agree with you 90%, I've just checked his Twitter, his blog/website, his SubscribeStar page, his Picarto (he deleted some videos) and found all of them to be mostly or completely useless, while his Discord (I went to the

You must be registered to see the links

) and he seems to still be quite active there as he responded to someone yesterday (at time of writing this). This is also where he uploads the teasers which seem to come out in reasonable intervals however finding this discord server is downright stupid. He doesn't actually link directly to it but instead to another "hub" server that links to "The Manor" discord server and "Survivor's Guilt" discord server. However while I was looking at the Discord server and under the "public-teasers" section I noticed that he had a teaser which he claimed might not be in 0.16 (it was Lucile with alternate outfit and hair style) which means he works on content that he might have no intention of releasing in the following update which may obviously slow down his update speed. This is clearly not a great idea when people are so impatient after waiting for such a long time, in my opinion this is a well made game but it's production process is quite lacking in terms of both his communication and timing, otherwise I have no complaints. I suppose I'm just trying to stay positive about something that in all honesty holds absolutely no value in my life whatsoever it's no more than a very casual hobby as I rarely masturbate to these types of games. I only ever come back to this thread occasionally because I made the guide and feel somewhat responsible for it so I try to make sure that I keep it up to date (not much of a hassle as I can only update it when the game does so it's not an issue for me) rather than to just click "Watch Thread" and to ignore the thread for a year or more so when I do return I can collect my harvest of what I hope to be many updates as I do with the rest of the games I play from this site.

 

[potty khale]

woah, people are really excited for the update it seems, writing full on big-big paragraphs in the comments

 

[TrialRagnarok]

woah, people are really excited for the update it seems, writing full on big-big paragraphs in the comments

Sometimes you just gotta paint the walls white, be it with text or with bodily fluids, either way works and shows you have a lot to say and you can't stop it to a meager sentence. Gotta get those gains, chewing up a bit of zinc and whatnot xD