HTML Abandoned BreakDown [v10] [Klausus]

[Davox]

Klausus

You need a better description of what is going on with the video packs in the OP. Telling potential players in the OP that a video pack is highly recommended and then asking them to search through the thread is dumb.

I can only find 1 video pack posted in this thread but the OP mentions the game has 2. That video pack looks to have been created by a user on her not you. Is that the expectation, that people provide their own packs and there aren't any official ones to go with the game? Is there a pack 2?

I can understand you not posting the packs on patreon if you are worried about being banned, but that shouldn't stop you posting the packs on F95. Put a sperate link to the video in the OP.

It's mentioned above that the only pack on here has IRL bestiality, that isn't allowed on this site so the only available pack will most likely get deleted.

 

[Klausus]

@klasus
You need a better description of what is going on with the video packs in the OP. Telling potential players in the OP that a video pack is highly recommended and then asking them to search through the thread is dumb.

If you can tell me a way how to add a post as "sticky", i would do it. But i hope i can do it when i have patreon and can claim this thread.

I can only find 1 video pack posted in this thread but the OP mentions the game has 2. That video pack looks to have been created by a user on her not you. Is that the expectation, that people provide their own packs and there aren't any official ones to go with the game?

The OP mentions that up to 2 packs can be used at the same time, but as far as i know there is only one.
For legal reasons i cannot provide an official one.

I can understand you not posting the packs on patreon if you are worried about being banned, but that shouldn't stop you posted the packs on F95 here. Put a sperate link to the video in the OP.

Iam not sure if that could have an consequences. I had problems once and had to pay a fee. I really don't want to have that experience again.

It's mentioned above that the only pack on here has IRL bestiality, that isn't allowed on this site so the only available pack will most likely get deleted.

The bestiality has been removed.

 

[Davox]

If you can tell me a way how to add a post as "sticky", i would do it. But i hope i can do it when i have patreon and can claim this thread.

You just go to the OP and edit it. If you can't figure it out go tot he post with the video in it, click report, select game updated and write that you want the mega link added to the OP and one of the mods will do it for you.

 

[Klausus]

You just go to the OP and edit it. If you can't figure it out go tot he post with the video in it, click report, select game updated and write that you want the mega link added to the OP and one of the mods will do it for you.

I know that i can do that, but i don't want the download link in the OP. However, i added the link to the post in the forum, i think that should be easy enough for everyone.
I told seatflapjack that he can from now on just update that post. He said he wanted to post an update anyaway.

 

[EPGerhart]

I'm using the html found in 1468702_BreakDown_beta_v8.1_fix.zip

Somehow, I don't think </div> is the intended displayed value ...

 

[thehyena]

I'm using the html found in 1468702_BreakDown_beta_v8.1_fix.zip

Somehow, I don't think </div> is the intended displayed value ...

I ran into this too. Each time you click Train it costs 1 energy. After I clicked about 5 times or so, over a couple of days, this quest got completed and I moved on to the next part of his quest.

 

[zenjee]

What's the difference between ''take prisoners'' and ''accept female refugees'' options. Cuz It looks like the only way to accept any females is to take them prisoner lol. Can't I just hire them like males? For example I have ''take prisoners'' and ''hire goons'' off but during the after breakfast event it still says ''But you, the strangers and the youngsters push them to the other girl and take them prisoner''. Im only taking no prisoners when I have both ''take prisoners'' and ''accept female refugees'' off.

 

[Klausus]

What's the difference between ''take prisoners'' and ''accept female refugees'' options. Cuz It looks like the only way to accept any females is to take them prisoner lol. Can't I just hire them like males? For example I have ''take prisoners'' and ''hire goons'' off but during the after breakfast event it still says ''But you, the strangers and the youngsters push them to the other girl and take them prisoner''. Im only taking no prisoners when I have both ''take prisoners'' and ''accept female refugees'' off.

At the beginning, there was no option at all, you had to take everything. Since then i added options and increased possibilities to gain prisoners/refugees/whatever. Therefore there is no real differentiation between the terms atm, or ... at one point there was and now it isn't anymore. I will change this at some point, but with the last addition (hq events for concubines), there is even more diversity.

As for now, take prisoners means "while exploring", refugees means during "end week". Once everything that is planned is in the game, i will make more differentiated options for "population control" with more logic. I just added a lot of stuff to the game, that's why it is like that atm.

 

[zenjee]

At the beginning, there was no option at all, you had to take everything. Since then i added options and increased possibilities to gain prisoners/refugees/whatever. Therefore there is no real differentiation between the terms atm, or ... at one point there was and now it isn't anymore. I will change this at some point, but with the last addition (hq events for concubines), there is even more diversity.

As for now, take prisoners means "while exploring", refugees means during "end week". Once everything that is planned is in the game, i will make more differentiated options for "population control" with more logic. I just added a lot of stuff to the game, that's why it is like that atm.

Thx for the answer and good luck with your game but I just realised that it's probably not for me. At first I thought that It's some kind of html fallout shelter with porn. I mean I like all the slave master shit but while it's just a play I guess. And then I saw that Arjun conversation about female subjects in this game and Im like ''ok I think Im a feminist now''.

 

[RustDust]

This was really frustrating to play. I'm gonna wait a few updates.

 

[EPGerhart]

After yet more playthroughs, I cannot get the secondary objective to deal with the rogues non-violently during Blackwood Mountain without save-scumming.

There just isn't enough time for the happiness to decay after you peg corruption.
Perhaps one (or more) of the following
1) Reduce happiness boost from having a trained girl sold to the rogues to 1/per from the current 2
Eliminate the happiness boost from purchasing food/building materials/untrained girls
2) Boost the corruption gain from having a trained girl sold to the rogues from the current 2 or (rarely) 3 per to
2 or 3 / per whore or concubine
3 or 4 / per slave
4 or 5 / per pet
3) Come up with something for scientists/wardens to do to influence it. Infiltrate them in as spies/agents ?
4) Come up with some late stage way to spend actions to influence the happyness/corruption balance. Right now, you can only do this indirectly by causing distress to the girls, but you can only ever get one breakdown / week.

Another option would be to attempt the bloodless coup anyway, even if happiness isn't QUITE zero, with the current happiness as a percent chance that you just fail.

 

[Klausus]

After yet more playthroughs, I cannot get the secondary objective to deal with the rogues non-violently during Blackwood Mountain without save-scumming.

There just isn't enough time for the happiness to decay after you peg corruption.
Perhaps one (or more) of the following
1) Reduce happiness boost from having a trained girl sold to the rogues to 1/per from the current 2
Eliminate the happiness boost from purchasing food/building materials/untrained girls
2) Boost the corruption gain from having a trained girl sold to the rogues from the current 2 or (rarely) 3 per
2 or 3 / per whore or concubine
3 or 4 / per slave
4 or 5 / per pet
3) Come up with something for scientists/wardens to do to influence it. Infiltrate them in as spies ?
4) Come up with some late stage way to spend actions to influence the happyness/corruption balance. Right now, you can only do this indirectly by causing distress to the girls, but you can only ever get one breakdown / week.

Another option would be to attempt the bloodless coup anyway, even if happiness isn't QUITE zero, with the current happiness as a percent chance that you just fail.

Thank you, i want to change it too and you made some nice suggesstions.
I just wanted to finish the next two areas first, but iam stuck a little since don't have an idea fitting for mission 4.

 

[Seven7h]

Klausus
Hello!
Just got a bug in the game.
The Gold turned NaN when I added 1 more soldier on my Raping Rangers army.
Added a savefile and SS of the issue.
Need to clarify. I didnt use Sugarcube previous to the bug. I Used later to add gold so i could keep playing and the issue came back again.
Im not fan of this dark themes but I enjoy a lot the interface and game system. I play without packs and its my third game play trying different things, like lvlin Intelligence first then Stamina, or some othe minor changes.
Let me know if this can be fixed since this have been my best gameplay so far and wanted to finsh it.
Keep up the good work!

EDIT: I think I found what happened. Tried to add soldiers while they werr building a road. I know nothing about coding, Im just guessing but you might look over this. Cheers!!

 

[Klausus]

Let me know if this can be fixed since this have been my best gameplay so far and wanted to finsh it.
Keep up the good work!

Thank you for your kind words, especially since it's not your prefered theme. It's a little dark for my taste too, but i just went with what felt best for the setting.

EDIT: I think I found what happened. Tried to add soldiers while they werr building a road. I know nothing about coding, Im just guessing but you might look over this. Cheers!!

It's because of dictatorship. I made an unlogic choice in how i set up the military rank and always get messed up in my own "false logic".
It should work now.
However, i changed some other stuff too since last release and don't know what isn't finished yet. Hopefully there will nothing else strange happen.
If yes, just tell me and i try to fix it.

 

[Seven7h]

Thank you for your kind words, especially since it's not your prefered theme. It's a little dark for my taste too, but i just went with what felt best for the setting.


It's because of dictatorship. I made an unlogic choice in how i set up the military rank and always get messed up in my own "false logic".
It should work now.
However, i changed some other stuff too since last release and don't know what isn't finished yet. Hopefully there will nothing else strange happen.
If yes, just tell me and i try to fix it.

Worked perfectly!
Thanks!

 

[lewdgirl69]

Hello, looking forward to next update.

I cleared until the game breaks in area 6 on my first run without any achievements, and it was pretty easy paying attention to the mechanics and going by the obvious assumption that more stamina = get more stuff done and more xp. I assume this is an easier version than when was posted a month ago, going by comments on first page, although it I think it is still possible to fail the first area because training 5 whores is still RNG in the first area and you have to keep a prisoner stock and reduce breakdowns.

These achievements I haven't obtained yet:
Impregnate 200, research 80% of all projects, have 66 or more whores, have 30 or more slaves. I think they might be achieveable but I'll have to grind specifically for each one to get them within 5 areas. I probably got close to 30 slaves on my first run. All the other achievements are pretty easily achieveable I think.

BLOODLESS TAKEOVER IS HARD
Going with what the poster above said, I haven't tried going all out for it yet, but "bloodless takeover" in area 2 seems quite difficult. It might be that I need to go with a certain strategy and stick with it for that one. I used Soranus for extra suffering, possibly you need a certain amount of Intelligence for that too which I had during my first run, but essentially happiness doesn't drop fast enough and if you need to max their corruption that's probably out of the window too.

BUGS BUGS BUGS
Some achievements bugged out. "Infamous: Have 50 fanatics" seems bugged and maybe impossible to unlock, gave me the achievement for impregnate 25 daughters instead, I got that one without remembering how to get Fanatics so if I go for it directly I should be able to get it more easily although its pretty much what happens naturally anyway. "Giant" is just visually bugged and shows the achievement for hobbyist(+materials/week) unlocked, but does unlock the giant as a starting trait. I like the idea of Giant as a starting trait but starting at level 15 with no way to raise stamina or intelligence does suck a bit, its a big boost to training though like Teacher. I also have an achievement to gain +1 Nurse/level from somewhere.

BALANCE
Gold gains in brothel and gloryhole seems very low, its barely noticeable if you add more girls, I assume that you get decent gold mainly with more events. Probably intentional since this is how you get fanaticism (no tooltip for that so I forgot how in my first run), also I had lots of gold in later areas. I assume its low because you don't actually need that much gold / get a lot from exploring later on.

Guide for other players:
If anyone is struggling I recommend the Alchemist or Fast Learner traits, more gold & xp is always going to be useful. My first playthough was Brave and I had no problems, and its probably the worst out of the first 3 traits. Get at least 3 Stamina, more actions is the most important stat and will probably give you xp more efficiently than putting it in Intelligence initially. Spend gold wisely(or take Alchemist), in the first area it might be what makes or breaks you, since you need many Wardens to reliably train 5 whores within the time limit and there are fewer ways to acquire gold in the first area.

 

[Klausus]

Hello, looking forward to next update.

Iam working on it, but i had to playtest a lot to find bugs and imbalances. The achievement bugs you reported will be fixed next update.

BLOODLESS TAKEOVER IS HARD
Going with what the poster above said, I haven't tried going all out for it yet, but "bloodless takeover" in area 2 seems quite difficult. It might be that I need to go with a certain strategy and stick with it for that one. I used Soranus for extra suffering, possibly you need a certain amount of Intelligence for that too which I had during my first run, but essentially happiness doesn't drop fast enough and if you need to max their corruption that's probably out of the window too.

I wanted one that isn't as easy as the others, but i will improve the explanation for how it actually works somewhat. Didn't get around to that yet.
I tried it with the giant trait and therefore had only 3 stamina (until day 42, then i took council rule) and it was possible but close (i had it at day 48). You have to make the achievement your priority and sell them some girls as soon as possible. Buy materials and some food, then sell them slaves and pets (if you have some).
With anarchy, reeducation and torture i had 2 breakdowns several times without specifically trying to.

Gold gains in brothel and gloryhole seems very low, its barely noticeable if you add more girls, I assume that you get decent gold mainly with more events. Probably intentional since this is how you get fanaticism (no tooltip for that so I forgot how in my first run), also I had lots of gold in later areas. I assume its low because you don't actually need that much gold / get a lot from exploring later on.

I wouldn't call it exponential, but the income is higher and more predictable with higher numbers. Not a ridicolous amount, but it makes a difference. Getting fanaticism is just another advantage from putting girls there since i felt it's not really worth the trouble otherwise at the beginning. Later on in the game, when you carry more staff around, you will get "free whores" way faster too.
It is possible that gold income will be changed at some point, but atm it's of no use, since you don't need a lot of gold. That will change after area 5, when combat will be added and you need gold for more soldiers/companies.
Then i have to see if it is balanced or not.

 

[Klausus]

. I like the idea of Giant as a starting trait but starting at level 15 with no way to raise stamina or intelligence does suck a bit, its a big boost to training though like Teacher.

There is (will be) some more Advantages to giant. Anarchy gets a bonus on loyalty cap for muscle and you get more goons while exploring with high strength. Anarchy will also get more male refugees easier with next update, which can make it a viable choice even later on in my opinion (Same for liberal with female refugees).
Therefore a giant has it easier to get more goons at some point. Not that interesting for now, but once you need more soldiers/companies, it can help.
Despite those advantages, i wanted giant to be hard to level up (thats the reason they got extinct after all).
The player most likely must focus to level stamina to become more flexible and decrease ageing speed. Age is not important now, but will when there are more areas. My objective is to have between 30 and 50 areas once the game is finished.
After Level 5, the game will have more and more combat and the story will focus on defeating various threats.

 

[lewdgirl69]

"With anarchy, reeducation and torture i had 2 breakdowns several times without specifically trying to." - Do you have to sell them a LOT of girls? I've never had a double breakdown, and I was doing anarchy, reeducation and all energy into torture too.

 

[Klausus]

"With anarchy, reeducation and torture i had 2 breakdowns several times without specifically trying to." - Do you have to sell them a LOT of girls? I've never had a double breakdown, and I was doing anarchy, reeducation and all energy into torture too.

Well, for a double breakdown they need to have at least 2 (living) girls. It may have been by chance, but when you didn't have a breakdown the last turn but were close to it, it is more likely a double breakdown will happen next turn.
Breakdown is a number. When you accumulate 100, you get a breakdown and the number is reduced by 100. When you reach 200 then you have a double breakdown and it is reduced by 200. When you have for example 96 at the end of a turn, nothing happens and you keep the 96. Torture, government and so on adds to that number.

The secret is to give them girls as early as possible and never let them run "dry" of girls. That will make sure that every time you have a breakdown, their happiness is reduced. When they don't have any girls, every value in breakdown you collect is basically wasted.
Therefore, if you start the game and you have lots of gold for example and you can start trading with them, train a few concubines and sell them. They arent very effective, but they will reduce happiness right from the beginning when they die. Sell them every girl you have. Train whatever is easiest for you, the earlier the better. As soon as slave training is effective, train slaves. Then train slaves whenever possible and sell all of them until they have 100 corruption. When they have girls in stock, train more girls before you sell. When they don't have any girls in stock, train until you have 1 stamina and sell what you have.
At 100 corruption don't trade anymore and just keep torturing.
You have to adapt your strategy to the objective, then it's way easier.