Unreal Engine Breeders of the Nephelym [v0.761.4] [DerelictHelmsman]

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Draupnir7

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Sarojin said:
This is just with me as a personal thing, but I don't vent my frustrations publicly on a forum about things I'm getting frustrated at/ angry at most of the time, only certain times. Most of that is done privately to myself/ with friends.

Take of that what you will, but you do you man, just know that to most people hearing the same things being repeated to in this case a brick wall, gets tiresome quick after like the 10, 20th time. It's also equally frustrating coming in said thread to see a notification, just to not see an update.
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So? Wherever you go to do it, and whoever you do it with, the point is still catharsis. You're still bitching to relieve pressure. Is doing that here with strangers somehow wrong?
If there was some moratorium on bitching on this forum, whether in the rules or just socially enforced, easily half of the threads would fall to the back of the listings as posts stop altogether.
Someone complaining for the sole sake of hearing their own voice, that's annoying.
And if all you want is to see the update notice, stick to the dev blogs. You'll be waiting a good long while for a change, though.
 
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Draupnir7 said:
So? Wherever you go to do it, and whoever you do it with, the point is still catharsis. You're still bitching to relieve pressure. Is doing that here with strangers somehow wrong?
If there was some moratorium on bitching on this forum, whether in the rules or just socially enforced, easily half of the threads would fall to the back of the listings as posts stop altogether.
Someone complaining for the sole sake of hearing their own voice, that's annoying.
And if all you want is to see the update notice, stick to the dev blogs. You'll be waiting a good long while for a change, though.
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See you're assuming I'm talking about me with that update part, I'm not, I gave up on this one, but still keep track of it along with about 2-3 others that are in the same predicament, in the exact way I described. Like I said man, I don't get my hopes up anymore with things, I do other things and move on, but still comeback to check every now and then.

Considering when there's arguments, which amount to bitching about some feature or other about said game (usually it's back and forth between people and usually it's disagreements about something), and then said conversations get deleted for being off topic. A rule is in place, but only after a thread derails into not discussing the game anymore. (which we're going towards that here a little).

There's a massive difference between venting publicly as I said which comes off, keyword comes off as, whiny after awhile. I see it time and time again, it's the same points of moaning and not having any original thoughts, all it devolves into most of the time is , this game sucks levels of logic.

I'm sure someone has already gave constructive criticism on multiple fronts to different developers, but we're talking about on this forum, which the primary type is this game sucks type of criticism.
 
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Yeah, we're heading in a circle now, but I might as well ride it out.

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See you're assuming I'm talking about me with that update part, I'm not,
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I make the assumption because that is an odd complaint to have for a forum, whether it's about you or not. Being disappointed when someone responds to a thread that's flagged is kind of missing the point of a forum. Speaking of...

It's a forum. People will disagree and discussion happens.
I see quite a bit of unity in this thread, though. Mainly about save-killing updates, the time it's taking to bring out a new UI, and especially about how the game seems to be getting progressively worse with each update, with a tendency towards increased grind for no payoff. The attitude is generally moderately negative. There's plenty to complain about, and it's justifiable. (on-topic baybeeee)
Yet people stick around the thread because the foundation is absolutely there and if DH can stop sitting on his main hand for a minute, he may yet pull off an at least halfway-decent porn monster-breeder game. All he has to do is fucking finish it. I know, easier said than done, but then again, the bar is that low for this genre now.
And Hell, ragging on games is part of the fun here. Heir Apparent for instance is a fantastic thread that still gets the occasional response, and that game is DEAD. It has been for a while. The thread is arguably more fun than the game was going to be.

I guess I can appreciate the spirit in which your initial advice was intended, but you are trying to stop a flood by standing in the middle of the river with nothing but a stern glare.
Let people complain here. At the very least it gets it out of their system for when they do head off to another thread.
 
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Draupnir7 said:
Yeah, we're heading in a circle now, but I might as well ride it out.


I make the assumption because that is an odd complaint to have for a forum, whether it's about you or not. Being disappointed when someone responds to a thread that's flagged is kind of missing the point of a forum. Speaking of...

It's a forum. People will disagree and discussion happens.
I see quite a bit of unity in this thread, though. Mainly about save-killing updates, the time it's taking to bring out a new UI, and especially about how the game seems to be getting progressively worse with each update, with a tendency towards increased grind for no payoff. The attitude is generally moderately negative. There's plenty to complain about, and it's justifiable. (on-topic baybeeee)
Yet people stick around the thread because the foundation is absolutely there and if DH can stop sitting on his main hand for a minute, he may yet pull off an at least halfway-decent porn monster-breeder game. All he has to do is fucking finish it. I know, easier said than done, but then again, the bar is that low for this genre now.
And Hell, ragging on games is part of the fun here. Heir Apparent for instance is a fantastic thread that still gets the occasional response, and that game is DEAD. It has been for a while. The thread is arguably more fun than the game was going to be.

I guess I can appreciate the spirit in which your initial advice was intended, but you are trying to stop a flood by standing in the middle of the river with nothing but a stern glare.
Let people complain here. At the very least it gets it out of their system for when they do head off to another thread.
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It's not an odd complaint believe it or not, seen several threads have people looking for updates just to find 1-4 notifications (posts) were not said update or any update in general, and post their disappointment of said thing.

Once again man, you do you, that goes to anyone yelling their head off to a brick wall at this point lol.

Have a nice day.
 
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There are people who even defends Fifa today.. so.. probably it's logical for them but it does not mean it's the right thing to do to improve. If a dev is milking people because of the good things he did years ago, you don't critic the game anymore, you critic his methods.
 
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Drages said:
There are people who even defends Fifa today.. so.. probably it's logical for them but it does not mean it's the right thing to do to improve. If a dev is milking people because of the good things he did years ago, you don't critic the game anymore, you critic his methods.
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look there even those who defends madden more the FIFA yeah EA suckes
 
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Drages said:
There are people who even defends Fifa today.. so.. probably it's logical for them but it does not mean it's the right thing to do to improve. If a dev is milking people because of the good things he did years ago, you don't critic the game anymore, you critic his methods.
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Yeah I think people should be balanced on things. For example I now love Cyberpunk but gosh I despise how ass that game is to mod, to have stable performance or that it's still under-delivering compared to what was suposed to be. Sure, I enjoy tons of it now but I cant say it's issues dont annoy me and that on either future updates or on a sequel I wont DEMAND the devs to fix their shit first hand. Same story with BotN. Love the gameplay, love the characters, lore, etc. But fucking hell the endless grind it demands you its atrociously unacceptable in a multitude of levels. Specially when the dev keeps working on overhauling pointless crap instead of fixing the real problematic things like every 4-5 updates a save wipe happening.
 
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RubyZeronyka said:
Yeah I think people should be balanced on things. For example I now love Cyberpunk but gosh I despise how ass that game is to mod, to have stable performance or that it's still under-delivering compared to what was suposed to be. Sure, I enjoy tons of it now but I cant say it's issues dont annoy me and that on either future updates or on a sequel I wont DEMAND the devs to fix their shit first hand. Same story with BotN. Love the gameplay, love the characters, lore, etc. But fucking hell the endless grind it demands you its atrociously unacceptable in a multitude of levels. Specially when the dev keeps working on overhauling pointless crap instead of fixing the real problematic things like every 4-5 updates a save wipe happening.
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I say it's not the same. I am the one who designed that system which is grindy BUT as he kicked me from the project, I don't have any chance to balance things or add many things more like Breeder Progress and better Hybrids. He won't touch those anymore as he hates math as I guess he is not good enough at designing systems.

At Cyberpunk, you buy the game as you think it's worth and they are still working as you got hope that you will have a better experience someday. It's finished and you can play it. Botn will never finish, dev does not care anyone or his game even but he still milks mindless cows..

I know he is a good coder as I know again, he can work very fast if he wants. Now he is remaking UI for 5 months?... and people think it's ok.. I want that fanbase for sure.
 
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I say it's not the same. I am the one who designed that system which is grindy BUT as he kicked me from the project, I don't have any chance to balance things or add many things more like Breeder Progress and better Hybrids. He won't touch those anymore as he hates math as I guess he is not good enough at designing systems.
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So hypothetically speaking how would you further balance the game and improve hybrids? I know it's pointless to even talk about seeing as how, for better or worse, we're likely stuck with what we have now until the "end" of development but I'm interested to know how things could have potentially turned out had derelict not had a breakdown.
 
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Drages said:
I say it's not the same. I am the one who designed that system which is grindy BUT as he kicked me from the project, I don't have any chance to balance things or add many things more like Breeder Progress and better Hybrids. He won't touch those anymore as he hates math as I guess he is not good enough at designing systems.

At Cyberpunk, you buy the game as you think it's worth and they are still working as you got hope that you will have a better experience someday. It's finished and you can play it. Botn will never finish, dev does not care anyone or his game even but he still milks mindless cows..

I know he is a good coder as I know again, he can work very fast if he wants. Now he is remaking UI for 5 months?... and people think it's ok.. I want that fanbase for sure.
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Sorry if this was asked before but what was your role in BOTN ?
 
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Nerevarine12 said:
Sorry if this was asked before but what was your role in BOTN ?
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You check my post here: https://f95zone.to/threads/breeders-of-the-nephelym-v0-756-9-derelicthelmsman.2483/post-8473782

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So hypothetically speaking how would you further balance the game and improve hybrids? I know it's pointless to even talk about seeing as how, for better or worse, we're likely stuck with what we have now until the "end" of development but I'm interested to know how things could have potentially turned out had derelict not had a breakdown.
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They would have unique traits and such. I don't remember all details now. They will have a very special place in the game.
 
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