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Dragon59

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Also, the "choices"/points thing doesn't make a great deal of sense. If you pick a selection that gives you "Love OR Dominance"- shouldn't the other choice give you "Love or Dominance"? If not, the relationships are going to become very unbalanced and/or you're just going to end up with a character that is totally indifferent to you.
What's the difference between:
Love OR Dominance, and
Love or Dominance?

EDIT: Perhaps the first one is Love of dominance in the OR (operating room).
 
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Stil996

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What's the difference between:
Love OR Dominance, and
Love or Dominance?

EDIT: Perhaps the first one is Love of dominance in the OR (operating room).
Looks to me like you are putting the emphasis on the wrong part of Safetydummy's post. he said
Also, the "choices"/points thing doesn't make a great deal of sense. If you pick a selection that gives you "Love OR Dominance"- shouldn't the other choice give you "Love or Dominance"?
(Maybe he should have added a "too" behind that last "Love or Dominance")

If you get 2-4 options per interaction sometimes only one of which one of them will change a stat (Love/Dominance/Relationship), while the rest don't do shit (not always but enough to stand out), if that is what he meant then I tend to agree. If you are going to grow your character there should be more chances to make balanced choices.
 
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ramvivat

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How do the events in the side stories affect the main narrative? went through the story about Olivia and Ava - ok, I saw that the MC participated there. but what was in the side story will somehow manifest itself? in theory, after the MC in the side story brought the sisters home, at school in the main story their behavior should somehow change if they decided to study well. and another question - who did Olivia run into when she called this MC number?
 

Zonic Squared

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Truth be told, I can't see a way to fix this without a remake. There's just so much context that is just skipped over and ignored and the plot doesn't seem to have a focus. The main character is a completely different character from when the game started and it really doesn't make too much sense.

A proper remake would condense the story, cull the absolutely pointless teacher plotline that seemingly isn't going anywhere, and figure out what you want to do. Reduce the characters (twins seem big to marketing, but that's about it the only non-integral characters that would return) and tell a reverse corruption story.
 

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Looks to me like you are putting the emphasis on the wrong part of Safetydummy's post. he said
(Maybe he should have added a "too" behind that last "Love or Dominance")

If you get 2-4 options per interaction sometimes only one of which one of them will change a stat (Love/Dominance/Relationship), while the rest don't do shit (not always but enough to stand out), if that is what he meant then I tend to agree. If you are going to grow your character there should be more chances to make balanced choices.
You got it. Thank you for clearing all of that up on my behalf. My grammar is usually much better than this, but in my defense, I was high AF trying to get some relief from the pulled muscles in my neck. Lol

How do the events in the side stories affect the main narrative? went through the story about Olivia and Ava - ok, I saw that the MC participated there. but what was in the side story will somehow manifest itself? in theory, after the MC in the side story brought the sisters home, at school in the main story their behavior should somehow change if they decided to study well. and another question - who did Olivia run into when she called this MC number?
Tbth, this game suffers from what a majority of "harem" games suffer from- I call it "Maou-Sama Syndrome". :p Let's introduce 10+ characters all at once and expect everyone to follow the "story". There won't be any context OR content with any of them AND just for fun- let's introduce 5 more LI's with absolutely no context or content either. Then to wrap it all up in a neat little bow...we'll have a story that makes absolutely no sense with non-canonical side plots/stories just to add to the confusion. People love it when you do that. Lol
I, too, wondered who picked up the other line. Doubt that will ever have any resolution. XD

Truth be told, I can't see a way to fix this without a remake. There's just so much context that is just skipped over and ignored and the plot doesn't seem to have a focus. The main character is a completely different character from when the game started and it really doesn't make too much sense.

A proper remake would condense the story, cull the absolutely pointless teacher plotline that seemingly isn't going anywhere, and figure out what you want to do. Reduce the characters (twins seem big to marketing, but that's about it the only non-integral characters that would return) and tell a reverse corruption story.
Please don't say that- it's taken us this long to get...well, whatever this is- after how many edits and do-overs? LMAO Maybe he gets fired and you can remove the "school" portion of the game and just focus on the family? On the flip-side- she divorces him, takes full custody of the young'uns, (for whatever reason) the sister abandons him completely, they all disappear from his life, and then you could focus on him "teaching"? Maybe? :)
 

Raziel_8

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Just make a remake!
And how would that any better ?
From the look on the development of this game, the dev has no story maped out, nor a clue about the story he wants to tell....it's more like he woke up with a 'nice' idea and thinks this should be in the game no matter if it fits or not.

The game was promissing until he came up with that now called 'nightmare' update, and since then it's only more nonsense... like that the MC suddenly doesn't find his hot wife attractive and rather jerks off, really wtf...i get the game is focused on teens and loli, but no reason for such bs.
The school plot seems completely forgotten.
The original problem about the girl which has comited suicid and the MC was in therapy for ? never heard about it again.
The one niece looks like a clown now and he keeps throwing in more loli characters which have neither content nor a reason to be in the game, while there is already a huge cast which also has no content...

Any remake would just derail as fast as this already has.
 
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Kassan06969

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Remakes suck as you have to start all over. I consider a remake as abandoning the game and starting a new one. Better for a dev to just get his or her shit together.
 

Skeltom

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Remakes suck as you have to start all over. I consider a remake as abandoning the game and starting a new one. Better for a dev to just get his or her shit together.
What about this project makes you think that's even possible? In my opinion a clean slate is the only thing to do with this one. Even then I still don't think the dev can do it. Maybe this will pull through in the end but I'm not holding my breath.
 

Kassan06969

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No updates in almost a year and nothing on Patreon for almost 2 months, and all the recent on Patreon are bullshit posts (images, nothing about working on an update.) Predicting abandoned. There was a couple back that disastrous mafia stuff which everyone hated so the dev went with the "it was just a dream" trope (very unpopular on TV ever since they did it on Dallas in the early 1980s.) This could be saved IF he keeps working on it and not going off on bullshit tangents. Having to restart from the beginning always sucks the cum out of a dead man's dick, and if the dev can't go in the right direction from here, I doubt a restart would either. Pretty sure restarts also lose patrons. I'd certainly drop (and have done so) if a dev did that. I even do it if it's far in and there's a change that requires a new game to start (old saves not working.)
 
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Dragon59

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Remakes suck as you have to start all over. I consider a remake as abandoning the game and starting a new one. Better for a dev to just get his or her shit together.
That's a big reason why I'm starting my development with stand-alone projects so I can hopefully avoid that impulse. That will help me develop my style on smaller projects, then I will work on the big ones.
 
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Zekethor

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For me the biggest problem it's the direction, the dev failed to balance the plot conflicts with relationships, I honestly don't understand the difficulty of creating an interesting story in this sense, I mean make it simple!, I would just continue with the idea of a protagonist slightly shaken by some traumas, that would gradually "heal" himself with the love and relationships created in the game, at the same time that the shadows of the past still haunt him, at home he would have his daughters, hot wife, hot sister and not least the teacher's relationship with the students, this love would bring the perversion and corruption that could not be missing in a game like this. Only that would be enough to focus most of the game, being much less in the plot of conflicts, that would be present but more in the future of the story, based on that, create a written story of everything you wanted to happen until the desired end, and form the updates just by adapting and improving this ideas. To help it would be interesting to understand what makes famous and popular games similar to this one to be good and to be inspired by their best scenarios, why do you think the first update worked?, because people expected a direction that wasn't done after that.
 

AJCasino

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There was a couple back that disastrous mafia stuff which everyone hated so the dev went with the "it was just a dream" trope (very unpopular on TV ever since they did it on Dallas in the early 1980s.)
Know exactly what you mean with reference to Dallas, growing up in that time period. Patrick Duffy quit at the end of the eighth season, his character Bobby got killed off. The next season finale when Pam woke up in her bed, walked into the bathroom … and saw Bobby in the shower, wearing nothing but a smile as he said, “Good morning!” Say it with us: The whole season was all a dream!
 

AJCasino

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Remakes suck as you have to start all over. I consider a remake as abandoning the game and starting a new one. Better for a dev to just get his or her shit together.
Remakes are what Hollywood always attempt to do, because they have zero originality. They're always trying to remake movies from 70's/80's/90's, naturally they have yet to actually make one better than original.
 
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