VN Ren'Py Abandoned Buried Desires [v0.5] [Betisis]

[kschn68]

My (non-serious) thoughts towards the progression of the game:

Prologue:
An interesting start of a loli game

v0.1:
Thoughts from the dev: "Whoops, incest is not allowed on Patreon after all. And loli content can be dangerous even on F95. Better I remove these scenes from the prologue as a precaution. I'd rather make another sex scene with the wife. And I still need an unconventional cliffhanger... look, a basball bat..."

v0.15:
More thoughts from the dev: "Damn, I can't do another sex scene with the wife again... So what, I'll just make an extra game expansion with the twins, they surely get some likes. But I have to be careful, no loli scene allowed."

v0.2:
The dev, already a bit nervous: "What do I do now. Incest is taboo (Patreon). Loli is taboo (Patreon and maybe even F95). A sex scene with the wife? Shit, we already had that (twice). Hmmmm... Well, I'll just make a crime/mystery story out of it. By the way, I also need sex scenes - I'll better integrate some with uninvolved girls. What do I do with the bad niece? Maybe a punch? And now an even wilder cliffhanger then the last one - let's shoot the MC..."

 

[Manderley]

fuck ya keep up the awesome work!

 

[MattShizzle]

As I understand loli is fine on F95, and maybe even patreon as long as none look pre-puberty and the standard "all characters are at least 18" (wink-wink-nudge-nudge) disclaimer is given.

 

[a1fox3]

As I understand loli is fine on F95, and maybe even patreon as long as none look pre-puberty and the standard "all characters are at least 18" (wink-wink-nudge-nudge) disclaimer is given.

There is always the LewdPatcher that can handle loli patches for all games here at F95.
The dev's who got there game banned here refuse to use that site for the loli content.
Maou-Sama and others like this use it for there loli content.

 

[MattShizzle]

There is always the LewdPatcher that can handle loli patches for all games here at F95.
The dev's who got the game banned here refuse to use that site for the loli content.
Maou-Sama and others like this use it for there loli content.

Actually even using it here can be trouble. Patreon watches sites like this. One way around is to have a different modder put it there (or use a different account to do so so it looks like someone else, LOL.)

 

[CorruptKing]

The fact Patreon censors people for things that go beyond its site is repugnant. It's TOS shouldn't apply to whatever you do on other websites, not unless Patreon has a literal stake in the site itself to the point where it's an extension of Patreon.

 

[Deleted member 997153]

How free is too free? We want to help and to fuck, conquer, and truly be alive yet also not be evil. But when does the piper's bill come due? When does it blow up in our collective face or destroy the ones we care about? After all, decisions have consequences. That's how it all works, right? And yet MC's faustianesque journey, even when he's knocked down, drives him to grow and increasingly accept his more primal aspects. It's an inversion of most philosophical conceptions of human development, yet it strangely works here. It's like a left-hand path (ascension through transgression) tale wrapped in contrarian threads of empathy, authority, paternalism, and responsibility; So odd and gripping.

Even though the story's extreme situations are happening at a fantastical hentai-like pace, it sufficiently evokes the necessary emotions to pull it off. The women around him are (very sexy) vehicles to his self-actualization in contravention to societal expectations. The true conflict, beyond the situational and character-arc issues could be seen as occultic: 'Know thyself' mixed in with the nietzschean 'will to power'. Both of which conflict with the (seemingly) true antagonist of this tale - his conscience, best summed up in the maxim 'primum non nocere' (first, do no harm). His attempt to do no harm is what got the story going in the first place - rejecting a suicidal student's advances. I'm enjoying this ride.

I can't tell if this reads more like a rough draft of a dissertation for a Doctorate in Porn VNs or a submission on toxic masculinity to a Gender Studies journal.

 

[Rileyfksurmom]

Way to change gold into shit, skipfest waste of time now.

 

[gestved]

Crazy thing is this game has AMAZING CHOICES at very important moments. Like you get the choice to let your daughter have a lesbian relationship and "share" her or you can tell her to cut that shit out and take her for yourself. You can have your wife be dominant, submissive or just regular. With most girls you have to option to either go hard on the flirting or keep them at arms length. Additionally from what i have seen none of the above choices split the game up in significant routes, which is positive since we don't end up with something like three games in one.

Then the dev completely misses the ball, by not giving us those awesome choices at moments where it's incredibly obvious one should. Fucking a gas station slut while you have massive issues to deal with regarding your niece. Fucking a crack whore which honestly felt more like rape to me than anything. Dude didn't even bother to check her age.

Dude, all his daughters look underage and they are all love interests in the game, their age is not mentioned as well and they are around since the first version. Most girls in high school are below 18 irl, I think her age is hardly relevant, it's already mostly obvious they are underage, if this bothers you I'd suggest you to skip playing this game. She's one of the oldest looking girl between the younger girls.

Rape is a huge stretch, the girl asked for sex because she was freaking out with the possibility of the black dude being a spy from her family, the whole situation was explained in the game, can't see how that's rape

But I agree with the point about his niece, I think the dev started overcomplicating the story beyond it should, the game was a story about a teacher that is dealing with past trauma, and starts over in a new job teaching kids from powerful people, while dealing with some family issues and dynamics. Now turns out the niece is involved with some mafia style shit, he got shot, and in the middle of all this shit he helps a unknown girl that has a crazy family and that you probably could make a whole game dedicated only to her story.

But I did like the twins ministory, this was more like I was expecting

 

[MattShizzle]

If this isn't drastically changed, this game jumped the shark on third release. I honestly can't see many patrons being happy with this or staying if it stays like this.

 

[Random365]

wtf happened in this update, this game had great potential

 

[DanThaMan]

wtf happened in this update, this game had great potential

Dev spent all his Patreon money on drugs..

 

[a1fox3]

I am getting tired of seeing all these stupid "wtf" statements.

How about go redo the visit with the shrink, she told MC some things that he took to hart and now there coming out in the story. Not one of the "wtf" statements take that into account.

I to did not like the turn of events with Luna but the dev got a story to tell so let him/her tell it his/her way and just shut the fuck up with all the "wtf" crap.

 

[MattShizzle]

I am getting tired of seeing all these stupid "wtf" statements.

How about go redo the visit with the shrink, she told MC some things that he took to hart and now there coming out in the story. Not one of the "wtf" statements take that into account.

I to did not like the turn of events with Luna but the dev got a story to tell so let him/her tell it his/her way and just shut the fuck up with all the "wtf" crap.

TBH if he keeps on this path he will lose most patrons and game will be abandoned. 90% of responses here, at least, are negative. There is nothing more apt to describe this update than "WTF?" If it was a dessert it would be a big shit cake with diarrhea icing.

 

[Zenithtb]

90% of responses here, at least, are negative.

That's a pretty positive take. I've been following this thread as it was one of my personal 9/10 games. No *way* 10% of the responses are positive.

 

[Smarmint]

I am getting tired of seeing all these stupid "wtf" statements.

How about go redo the visit with the shrink, she told MC some things that he took to hart and now there coming out in the story. Not one of the "wtf" statements take that into account.

I to did not like the turn of events with Luna but the dev got a story to tell so let him/her tell it his/her way and just shut the fuck up with all the "wtf" crap.

Well, this is a game forum. About the game. If we aren't here to give our opinions about the game, what do you suggest we talk about? Squirrels?

It is telling that almost everyone here has the same reaction. I can't imagine this game continuing much longer. The dev doesn't seem to know what kind of game he is making. If it is this much of a mess by update 2, best to spend a few months writing out a coherent story that actually is fun to play for your intended audience, and then start over with a new game.

 

[MattShizzle]

Well, this is a game forum. About the game. If we aren't here to give our opinions about the game, what do you suggest we talk about? Squirrels?

It is telling that almost everyone here has the same reaction. I can't imagine this game continuing much longer. The dev doesn't seem to know what kind of game he is making. If it is this much of a mess by update 2, best to spend a few months writing out a coherent story that actually is fun to play for your intended audience, and then start over with a new game.

TBH previous to this update is an entirely different game. This is what happens when you do "New Coke" or such. I remember that ish in 1985. Christ on the Crapper how can anyone see this as anything but an abortion of an update.

 

[Deleted member 997153]

To give the dev the benefit of the doubt, this may be the story that he always intended. I think there were very subtle hints about this story in the previous release when viewed in hindsight: the encounter with the strange man in the parking garage, the principal talking about powerful and influential people, the meeting with the big boss in the hallway. The confusion is due to problems with how the story has been presented.

The first act of a story has to introduce the main characters, establish the setting, and, most importantly, set the tone of the story. Most VNs are long so the first act may need several releases to be fully realized. However, each release could be seen as an individual episode in a serialized narrative that need to maintain a similar tone.

The first episode (release) is a vanilla family corruption drama in a school setting with elements of political intrigue. The second episode (release) is a seedy, violent noir thriller about the mafia with elements of the supernatural. That's a jarring shift in tone that either needed to be introduced in the first release or more slowly revealed over time.

If people start watching Full House and enjoy seeing Uncle Jesse bang Becky before flirting with DJ and Kimmy, then they will be understandably upset if they see him bang a crack whore before being shot by Tony Soprano in the next episode.

 

[a1fox3]

Well, this is a game forum. About the game. If we aren't here to give our opinions about the game, what do you suggest we talk about? Squirrels?

It is telling that almost everyone here has the same reaction. I can't imagine this game continuing much longer. The dev doesn't seem to know what kind of game he is making. If it is this much of a mess by update 2, best to spend a few months writing out a coherent story that actually is fun to play for your intended audience, and then start over with a new game.

Giving constructive criticism is one thing but all these "wtf" statements is the problem.

Like I said above I did not like what happen with Luna but I am willing to give the dev the benefit of the doubt for this release and will wait for the next 2-3 updates to see where it goes.

A lot of you have totally missed what the shrink said to MC, basically given the MC the right to come out and take charged and not hold back anymore and the school telling him he can do what ever he thinks would get all the bad girls to come in line and so forth.

 

[pgm_01]

There is always the LewdPatcher that can handle loli patches for all games here at F95.
The dev's who got there game banned here refuse to use that site for the loli content.
Maou-Sama and others like this use it for there loli content.

Not quite.

The game you mentioned has a spinoff. The first version of that spinoff was posted here with a patch. It was banhammered. No explanation other than rule 7. All discussion banned. Any discussion from people who played the game and could vouch for the lack of rule-breaking deleted. Based on that, the new interpretation of the rule seems to be that any character's existence must be placed in the patch, not just any lewd content. But the mods won't discuss, they just point to the rule and ban. There is a good chance that this post gets wiped too, as either thread clean up or off topic because that is how this site rolls now.