VN Ren'Py Onhold But I'm the Bad Guy? [v0.07v8] [DLGB]

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Six0

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Frazzanova said:
Hiding your cheapness behind impossible standards
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WTH does this even mean? Wanting a game about a female protagonist who's a bad mom is an impossible standard? Yeah, okay, sure buddy. If that's impossible then my point is totally valid. These devs and their cheap ideas aren't worth shit.
 
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Six0 said:
WTH does this even mean? Wanting a game about a female protagonist who's a bad mom is an impossible standard? Yeah, okay, sure buddy. If that's impossible then my point is totally valid. These devs and their cheap ideas aren't worth shit.
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Not one of the 18,000 games or any media, animation, hentai, or artist's work across the entirety of the internet being worth it to you is the impossible standard. So tell me. If they realigned the story to Alice's point of view, you'd pay for it? The first game or media that's ever been created that you'd support? Not one single game across the 18,000 here have a bad mom protagonist that meets your quality standard, but that's all it would take for you to open your wallet on this game? Doubt it. I think you're just blowing smoke, and quite literally no artist could ever create any sort of media that you'd support.

Frazzanova said:
And yet, I bet you've gotten hundreds or thousands of hours of entertainment from the games you say aren't worth it.
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Frazzanova said:
Not one of the 18,000 games or any media, animation, hentai, or artist's work across the entirety of the internet being worth it to you is the impossible standard. So tell me. If they realigned the story to Alice's point of view, you'd pay for it? The first game or media that's ever been created that you'd support? Not one single game across the 18,000 here have a bad mom protagonist that meets your quality standard, but that's all it would take for you to open your wallet on this game? Doubt it. I think you're just blowing smoke, and quite literally no artist could ever create any sort of media that you'd support.
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You apparently don't get it. And that's typical of people who lack imagination. People who lack imagination are also easily satisfied and more prone to paying money for subpar content. They would have to do more than just "realign" the story to Alice's point of view. They'd have to rewrite her character entirely to make her "the bad guy" of the story, hence the "bad mom" play on words. I'd have hoped the text in the image I posted conveyed that idea but I guess not. Not to someone who'd only take the words at face value. Not seeing the broader implications behind them due to a lack of imagination. No game on this site or any other that I've come across has a female protagonist who's also a "bad mom." And I don't mean the ones who start out pure then eventually become corrupted. I mean a mom whose predatory from the start. Like how the MC in this game was. Because games that have perverted moms in them are always told from her son's perspective. Giving her little to no character depth.
 
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You apparently don't get it. And that's typical of people who lack imagination. People who lack imagination are also easily satisfied and more prone to paying money for subpar content. They would have to do more than just "realign" the story to Alice's point of view. They'd have to rewrite her character entirely to make her "the bad guy" of the story, hence the "bad mom" play on words. I'd have hoped the text in the image I posted conveyed that idea but I guess not. Not to someone who'd only take the words at face value. Not seeing the broader implications behind them due to a lack of imagination. No game on this site or any other that I've come across has a female protagonist who's also a "bad mom." And I don't mean the ones who start out pure then eventually become corrupted. I mean a mom whose predatory from the start. Like how the MC in this game was. Because games that have perverted moms in them are always told from her son's perspective. Giving her little to no character depth.
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You made it very clear that in 8 years of content and 18,000 games on this site alone, no content has ever been worth it, and expanded your reach to any artist in history. So your opinion on what content they should add is moot. No developer should or would ever take your advice on what content to add if it's still not ever going to be worth it in your eyes. They won't be able to meet your impossible standards that 18,000 games and the worldwide sum history of the internet and media before them couldn't.
 
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Let them make completed games first and then the money
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Very few game are made before there's some kind of financing. You know that even AAA developers pour fuck ton of money in making game, long before it is ready to be sold. So this kind of financing it by donations while you are doing it is a way for indie devs to actually make games they would not have resources otherwise to make. It takes long hours to make any kind of game, computers and software that you might have to spend money during your development and not just when you start etc.... So if developer finds someone who is willing to fund their game while they are developing it, there's nothing wrong with it. It's not like you forced to fund the dev.
 
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What happened here? cutting off the scene with Alice and making it worse by cutting it short then introducing that ugly ass Latifa or whatever her name was, did you get the model from those milf games or something because all the other models in the game I remember were decent but she made me go back and change my choice of meeting her, also you could have completed the scene and said fuck that model all together and it would have been better or finish the scene and keep the new model but cutting scenes short is just asking to crash and burn look at all the devs who did that and did crash and burn most of them have incomplete games because nobody was willing to tolerate it, making no choice but to be that little pink haired girls bitch or die, I imagine later that's how you're going to bring together Riley and her relationship but man wanting some spoiled princess is some Disney shit and I was not expecting Disney to be a sponsor for this whether knowing or not. Another note watch the a little bit later lines when over used they just annoy people. Back to the original point though I mean seriously what the fuck was even the point of the choice and why wasn't there even a choice on whether you want to be involved with the bitch in the first place even if there became some form of dominance route with her outside of her body there isn't anything attractive about her even the concept of old money in most people should make them gag not get a rager or waterfall. I mean seriously we all know old money are a bunch of inbred child raping Luciferians, like the Rothschild, Rockefeller, Orange, Kennedy, Alefantis whose name literally means I like kids fake name obviously, and many others, so why are so many games insistent on putting them in a positive light or trying to make them seem attractive? Attractive is not a word I'd use to describe any member of Queef Elizabeths family especially if she made me wait an hour and then proceeded to whip me, even in her prime attractive is not a word that would come to mind. Bitch comes to mind, whore comes to mind, criminal comes to mind, terrorist comes to mind, treasonous comes to mind, ugly comes to mind but not attractive. And at the fucking nd of it you can't even quit the fucking job after being whipped. I don't know what kind of a bitch you are but if a mother fucker whips me it's guarenteed I won't be working there and they'd be lucky if I didn't use every resource in my power to fucking kill them for whipping me, that's not a sex toy whip either it's a fucking real one, that's beyond femdom shit into attempted murder or assault with a deadly weapon territory. The game was going well to and then you turned the MC from a natural dom in some old money whores bitch boy. If you met someone in real life who went through that type of transition most people would not be able to stop themselves from laughing in their face. Final note since I know someone somewhere will say it, being whore isn't a bad thing, my response is yes it's not a bad thing that's why being called a whore or walling someone a whore during sex is considered degrading sex talk and we all know degredation is a good thing right? If you degraded someone, anyone outside of a situation like that it would be a good thing right? BTW the thought that it's good during one situation but not in other situations is a concept called double think from 1984 by George Orwell. It's long so I don't expect pretty much anyone on the VN games of constant reading to actually read this, that would be stupid of me to even consider as others have directly told me in the past.
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I agree with the sentiment that the game is taking a turn for the worse and understand the frustration.

But holy fuck if that ain't the great chinese wall of text I don't know what is!
Hope you didn't pop a blood vessel while typing!
 
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Frazzanova said:
You made it very clear that in 8 years of content and 18,000 games on this site alone, no content has ever been worth it, and expanded your reach to any artist in history. So your opinion on what content they should add is moot. No developer should or would ever take your advice on what content to add if it's still not ever going to be worth it in your eyes. They won't be able to meet your impossible standards that 18,000 games and the worldwide sum history of the internet and media before them couldn't.
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Now you're the one pushing impossible standards. Trying to blow what I said way out of proportion by expanding it to all artists throughout history. Get real, dude. I have virtually every Playstation and Nintendo console at my disposal, you think I never paid for a video game? Or went to see a movie? I'm specifically talking about hentai games here (emphasis on here) and to a lesser extinct, hentai artists and hentai animators. I have paid a few animators for their work, but that was always because it was something rare and they kept it behind a paywall. Would I have paid for it if they didn't? No. Because in the end what they were selling didn't turn out to be anything that special. I had to pay for it first to see that. So while I have paid some artists for their work, they're so few and and far between they might as well not exist when their gated content ended being a disappointment. That said, no hentai game I ever came across, especially on this site where most of them bend the knee to Patreon, had what I'd be willing to pay for. And what I'd be willing to pay for is what I just described. They aren't worth paying for when they all refuse to do one very simple fucking thing, let women be the perverts.
 
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Frazzanova: You might want to go work on your reading comprehension and visual interpretation skills. Also exercise that situational awareness of yours too while you're at it. We're on a hentai site talking about hentai games. Why would I have been talking about any authors outside of that spectrum.

*walks into a strip club*
"Hey man, y'know what? Fuck Shakespeare! Steven Spielberg is overrated and Hideo Kojima can suck my dick. Also, none of these hoes got ass."
 
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this game was not half bad (y):coffee:some of the content was questionable but still not to bad a game though such a shame it come to being on brink of abandonment if it dont come off hold in a year
 
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Frazzanova

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Six0 said:
Frazzanova: We're on a hentai site talking about hentai games.
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This is not a hentai site, we're not just talking about Hentai games (especially considering the game you're commenting under isn't a hentai game), and you didn't specify your reply was limited to artists on this site. You said you have yet to find an artist or animator. There are a million people in the world that fall under those categories. Don't get mad at me because you don' know how to express your opinion.
 
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