AlexaSky

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Who would have guessed to get people talking about the game all he had to do was kill a puppy kitten in this case. Deplorable but it gets the job done unless you go Grimdark then the emotional reaction fades with time. Would be funny if he turns this into sleeping beauty :sneaky:
 

DonTirri

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Killing the mentally-ill sister is any less despicable than killing the kid? I'm not gonna meet you on that.

Also, what stolen assets? This isn't CK, aping shit outright from HHG. Koi is a program used to design characters. I've seen the cards for these ones - custom made.

Although ironic you mention stealing assets, as you try to use an ERB line like a closer.
In the case of Aneko it would have been a mercy-killing. Bet someone in her situation would just welcome it. Not to mention taking the one good thing out of the life of said mentally-ill sister just amplifies the despicableness of killing Emiko. So yeah. Aneko would have been the lesser evil.

Funny how you didn't address the porn-game part. Cause it's a point that kills your fuckdoll argument dead.

Also sure, they are custom made and stuff, but I highly doubt Illusion meant their engine to be used by other people to make money especially without a license.
I mean, if that truly is the case, then I stand corrected, but if it's not, they are stolen assets.

And yes, I nicked it off ERB because it's a wonderful line that many don't seem to get when it comes to movies and games. Doesn't lessen its truthfullness any less.
 

AlexaSky

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Also sure, they are custom made and stuff, but I highly doubt Illusion meant their engine to be used by other people to make money especially without a license.
I mean, if that truly is the case, then I stand corrected, but if it's not, they are stolen assets.
Pretty sure it's able to be used for commercial purposes as long as the dev has a legitimate license, doesn't try to reverse engineer it, and states somewhere that they are using it so more people are tempted to buy it.
https://f95zone.to/threads/koikatsu-is-available-for-commercial-use.49316/
 
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DonTirri

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See, but to you it would be the lesser evil. To two other people whom I just got done speaking to, they're of the opinion it would have been immeasurably worse. Can't win for losing: no matter what he did, people would have raked him over the coals.
So he should've just not done it. Simple as that. There were other ways to progress the plot outside of killing someone as I outlined. But no. Had to go for the shock value

And if you want me to focus in on the porn-game part, fine. Out and out porn game = no story at all, no gameplay. Just immediate access to all fap material: embracing that it's only there for one thing. But the mere fact that you hold strong feelings about Emiko getting killed to begin with is proof that you treated this as more than just a fap game - or else, you got really angry about a character in a fap game, which I am not going to accuse you of. As most would say that's pretty pathetic, and I'm not gonna paint you with that brush.
CoR is very much a porn game. There is fap material for every character and it's introduced very early on each characters arc. You mistake "porn game" for a "fuckfest". Two different things. A fuckfest is a flat out "hey, nice to meet you, lets fuck" while porn game has a story yes, but there is still a LOT of fucking. Like CoR. Infact considering how fast many characters go from "Hey, nice to meet you" to "I need your cock" in this game, it's almost a fuckfest.

Hell. Look at Corrupted Kingdoms. It's a porn game with a story and a lot of fucking. You don't see them going for cheap twists like this. Or look at Hail Dicktator. Again, a porn game with a story but no cheap twists (even if the latest storyarc is a complete bust).

Trying to pass off a lazy and cheap shock twist as good storytelling doesn't belong in a porn game

You mentioned Lessons in Love earlier. That, too, is a porn game. If we're gonna lump them all together under one banner because there's sex in them, let's be fair. But Selebus' own words on his game are quite similar to Zimon's, in that they want the story to be the beating heart of things rather than just window dressing. Or to quote Sel directly: "Not a sex game, but a game with sexual elements."
LiL isn't a porn game. It's a Denpa game. It doesn't pretend to be anything else than a horror game with sexual elements. Hell, the story to fucking ratio of LiL is gigantic compared to CoR. And even Selebus for all his fucked up creativity hasn't gotten to a point of killing off a child for shock value.

You can have sexual elements and not be defined solely by them. If this game didn't have anything else going for it, all characters would only function as fuckdolls - that was what I was getting at when I used the term. I mentioned it because I've seen folks angry that she got a card - suggesting sexual content was incoming - and "didn't get to do anything with her."
No matter how you try to belittle it, that is an extremely valid criticism. Every other character who had gotten a card also has sexual content for them, with the exception of Maeve and Isabel, and even in their cases it is justified to expect such content. The dev established a pattern and then broke it and now pikachufaces when people react negatively.

So no, there's no "kills your fuckdoll argument dead" to be found here. Because the argument is that without a plot, all that is left would be the porn. Mindless characters whose only use in-game is as fap material. I was saying that as long as events are taking place and a story is unfolding, it's evidence of the game making some kind of progress beyond "introducing new fuckdolls." Which again, without the story, is all you would have. No part of that was proven wrong or "killed".
As stated above. You are thinking of a fuckfest. Not a porn game. But I guess you're too busy fluffing the dev to understand why people are mad and are justified in their anger.

And fair enough. I stand corrected on the Koikatsu use.
 

DonTirri

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I mention how any outcome would have pissed people off. I understand their anger. But this is discourse: trying to get folks to see other perspectives. Which I'm gonna give up on as you have a very personal bone to pick with this game that I see now ain't no one gonna take from you. You accused it of theft, then defended CK - a game which has stolen so much that other devs have commented on how Arc is "unwelcome in their circles".

You assign labels that you think fit (Going for the oh-so-common Denpa label for LiL, as though it didn't begin with its MC fucking his underage niece after that maybe-minute of reading and choosing "jump") while telling other people that their measuring sticks are just wrong and yours aren't. You do you, chief.
And I don't understand how you are so vehement in your defense of an obviously shitty choice by a dev who had been doing well until now.

And honestly? I don't follow shit so closely as to know what CK and it's dev are disliked for. All i know is that I've enjoyed the game and the story that is being written.

I rarely venture into the comments section of games here, only when I care about a game. The stance on Koikatsu was legitimately something i didn't know, i just went by what's usually the case.

But you do you, keep defending a choice that was absolutely despicable. Maybe some other game off a kid so you can go whiteknight the dev there too.
 

mrttao

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Oh and on your point about fuckdolls, its a fucking porn game using stolen assets from another porn game. If the Dev wanted to write a heart-tugging dramatic story of pain and loss, he chose the wrong damn medium.
the assets are stolen?
Killing the mentally-ill sister is any less despicable than killing the kid? I'm not gonna meet you on that.
1. she is brain damaged not mentally ill. A sociopathic serial killer is mentally ill, a child molester is mentally ill, someone who is brain damaged is mentally impaired not mentally ill. This is a case of connotation vs denotation. technically by the dictionary definition she is mentally ill, but the connotation of the term "mentally ill" is quite negative with a focus on the criminally minded.

2. you can choose not to meet him on that, but it does not change the fact that 99% of people will agree that killing a child is worse than killing an adult

and to clarify. I would be very upset if the older sister died too. I am just disagreeing with the claim that a child dying and an adult dying are the same thing
 
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HogRocket

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I can't trigger the Maeve event. :(
I've completed all other content, done all the requisites as far as I can tell but no matter what....no even in the living room at night as called out on her screen. I've gone pretty much everywhere at all times of day, tried talking to her in the garden when she shows up etc. I'm missing something glaringly simple I'm sure. I've been through the big "breaking the seal" episode where Emiko gets killed etc. Maeve's screen said "wait for the storm to cool down..." well two (in game) weeks of wandering around should have cooled off just about anything.

What am I missing (right in front of me probably) y'all?
 

PandaSuky

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I'm really really sorry about that stupid error. The fixed game is in uploading.

Loved this very usefull feedback. We're going to follow your advices surely. Thank you very much.

[Ezekiel]
Sorry to bother you but i cant seem to unlock the event of "love in the dojo" but i did all the rest of izanami events until Tracing the Master, did i do something wrong? can i unlock somehow?
 

mrttao

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The assets are not stolen. That's just the popular buzz-term for games made using Koi - which is legally purchasable and used for countless games just like this one. There are terms and conditions to it - which are met here - but each character was made by the dev. Not lifted from anyone or anywhere else, just to clarify.
thank you for explaining that.
 

franklin99

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My Asmedia has said go spend time with her for about 10 updates, anyone know how to fix it? And yes I've gone to her room at all different times and tried a bunch of different stuff.
 

hentai charley

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I'm stuck at Step #4 for the Bullet Hell Quest- where I'm supposed to "join the ranks, back to the Guild". I've been able to accomplish everything ELSE, including the MC going postal at the auction house, etc., etc. But the option to go to the Guild (or an automatic event doing such) just hasn't popped up again.
 

TFFBladez

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I don't know if this is on purpose or not but an Image not found with text is appearing after the new part with Maeve I don't know if it's supposed to represent a missing memory or if my version just doesn't have an image Remember_Fragment28.
 
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sh10

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It seems like I'm stuck pretty early in the game. All the signal text says to talk to Asmedia or Herameal, but when I go to them through the portal the only option is to spend time with them. There's no other options and nothing is happening automatically.
 
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