- May 17, 2020
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it's full of crazy people, let alone in a porn game forum.
However, I still don't understand the benefits of the operation--I use a character you already know, however, you have to forget what you've already seen of her
However, I still don't understand the benefits of the operation--I use a character you already know, however, you have to forget what you've already seen of her
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I don't recall that either. Can't say I care for it - feels like trying to have your cake and eat it too if you ask me.
I suppose if that was their way of saying they won't track a whole bunch of variables from Chasing Sunsets, fair enough. I think it's reasonable to either establish a canonical ending for use in sequels, or to intentionally handwave any of the fine details as long as the main strokes are preserved. But if they want to be able to rewrite Tara's backstory willy nilly to fit the new plot, that's a step too far. At that point it would be better to retire Tara and start over from scratch with a new character.
What's in it for them is capitalizing on the obvious audience interest in Tara. They weren't willing to rewrite Chasing Sunsets to make Tara an main LI (and good on them for sticking to their vision), so bringing Tara back in a new story was the only real chance to take a second bite at the apple.
I agree it's high risk, but it's also high reward if they pull it off. Big if, though.
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Demanding LI being pure virgins and never having expressed interest in any guy ever is men telling on themselves. They want their LI to be in the same state that they player is in.
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Not me. I've been around the block enough to know that I want a woman who knows what the hell she's doing and what she wants.
I might not be qualified to give it to her, but at least she won't lay there like a board and fail to communicate.
Man, I must be working with half a deck here. I do not understand how putting Lisa and Tara in a new visual novel could possibly be high risk. They are just characters in a visual novel. Like actors, they play different parts in different stories. And that any person could possibly be upset that a character in a visual novel is not a virgin is disturbing. People love the Lisa and Tara characters. It makes sense to put them in a new story. Even if the devs changed their names for a new story, they are just characters!
- Sep 6, 2017
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People will argue that they cheat on the MC of Chasing Sunsets...guaranteed.
I once had this conversation on a another VN with a fellow member.
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Reason is that those people live vicariously through Chasing Sunsets' MC, so they feel like they are getting cheated on, which is ridiculous.
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Yes, i get that. And yes, absolutly, it is ridiculous.
I was so baffled about that, that i literally had gone into speechless-mode.
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they may be naïve, stupid, insecure, and retarded. but at the end of the merry-go-round it is we who play their games and not the other way around, so it is they who are being proved right.
because if it is ridiculous to pretend that LI is a virgin and only interested in MC, how ridiculous is Jaye that for 5 years, but it could have been more, she waits for the man (by the way her foster brother) with whom she has never had any relationship but only a crush really, and who once back could also safely dump her???
because if it is ridiculous to pretend that LI is a virgin and only interested in MC, how ridiculous is Jaye that for 5 years, but it could have been more, she waits for the man (by the way her foster brother) with whom she has never had any relationship but only a crush really, and who once back could also safely dump her???
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She's only a virgin, I thought, if you were extremely dedicated/kind to her in the game. Did that get rewritten and I missed something?
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extremely dedicated seems to me a stretch, as it's not like you have other girls available. if you are "nice" to her (it's a couple of decisions), the game rewards you with her virginity. virginity is Jaye's "perfect ending"
If you are not enough nice the game punishes you with a more normal Jaye
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What for?...so it is they who are being proved right.
The players diving to deep into the self insertion of a MC of a Visual Novel and calling pixels cheating whores because they appear in other VN's?
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Ah the classic “wants their cake and wants to eat it too” being thrown by stone fox here though I don't see the tara game doing aswell as they think. Didn't want to make Tara a main Li because that would mean changing the story in a way they don't want to which is fine(even if i didn't like it)as ultimately it is the dev decision. There are examples on this site of games where dev changed stories to pander to the audience which ended up abandoned as the dev lost interest in making a game that wasn't what they wanted anymore.
But if the whole in an alternate reality thing is real then it is a rather cheap attempt of erasing Tara backstory which is a rather important reason why people like her while still trying to catch the Tara lightning in a bottle popularity. Reasons to do that are probably to clear the relationship between Tara and the MC so playing the 2nd game MC don't feel like the 2nd choice, rebound guy. Won't even delve into the virgin thing, 3 words of mass destruction, sloppy seconds or cheating on previous mc. But at this point it's not even Tara anymore so why just keep the same model, create a new character and start fresh. Dev really dug itself into a hole with this thing with MC, Jaye and Tara acting as a conduit between them. Game would have progressed fine without the MC/Tara and Tara/Jaye sex scenes and the hints of her liking mc.
Imagine this Chasing sunsets starts us playing douchebag and vividly describe how douchebag and Jaye met, liked each other, fucked then douchebag left her for Tara. Prologue ends, real story starts with us playing MC now. Epic game right, guaranteed to succeed
But if the whole in an alternate reality thing is real then it is a rather cheap attempt of erasing Tara backstory which is a rather important reason why people like her while still trying to catch the Tara lightning in a bottle popularity. Reasons to do that are probably to clear the relationship between Tara and the MC so playing the 2nd game MC don't feel like the 2nd choice, rebound guy. Won't even delve into the virgin thing, 3 words of mass destruction, sloppy seconds or cheating on previous mc. But at this point it's not even Tara anymore so why just keep the same model, create a new character and start fresh. Dev really dug itself into a hole with this thing with MC, Jaye and Tara acting as a conduit between them. Game would have progressed fine without the MC/Tara and Tara/Jaye sex scenes and the hints of her liking mc.
Imagine this Chasing sunsets starts us playing douchebag and vividly describe how douchebag and Jaye met, liked each other, fucked then douchebag left her for Tara. Prologue ends, real story starts with us playing MC now. Epic game right, guaranteed to succeed
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it's not that it's very complicated....
they want their LI to be virgin and dedicated only to MC, and in this game, but the many AVNs, that's what they get
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That's okay for the actual VN/Game, but imho that ends at the Quit-Button. Next Game/VN is a new story to be written/enjoyed.
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Ah, Tara. She kinda loses her appeal when she isn't pretending to be your sister to get you hard, doesn't she? Without that one trick she is basically just Chloe from College Kings.
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She hasn't much screentime after that hail mary scene, so scarcity leads to oblivion i guess.
I understand that people like to have a variety of playthroughs.
On my first playthrough of CS - I built full trust and love with Jaye early on - and she was a virgin who waited for the MC for their first time.
I also played later with a different focus for the MC/Jaye, breaking trust with Jaye - I was not shocked At all when she was not a virgin when she and the MC had their first time.
I like a story where there is consequence for the actions of the MC.
I don't understand those who complained that Jaye was not a virgin the first time she and the MC had sex when their choices did not create the bond of trust that Jaye needed to remain faithful to a hope (one she still held).
If this is what some people required of Jaye - her virginity for the MC - create a new playthrough - isn't that what replayability is all about?
Does the story still streamline (no ability to expand the primary LI roster beyond Jaye/Mallory) so we end up with less 'choice' than some of us want - sure.
I'll take that over a 1 year = 1 release dev cycle though.
Cheers!!
Nobody has seen the new game yet. Tools passing judgment on something that doesn't even exist yet. There is no reason or need to speculate what Tara or Lisa will be like in the next game. We don't have any clue what the story is. No clue what will be pulled in from this story.Ah the classic “wants their cake and wants to eat it too” being thrown by stone fox here though I don't see the tara game doing aswell as they think. Didn't want to make Tara a main Li because that would mean changing the story in a way they don't want to which is fine(even if i didn't like it)as ultimately it is the dev decision. There are examples on this site of games where dev changed stories to pander to the audience which ended up abandoned as the dev lost interest in making a game that wasn't what they wanted anymore.
But if the whole in an alternate reality thing is real then it is a rather cheap attempt of erasing Tara backstory which is a rather important reason why people like her while still trying to catch the Tara lightning in a bottle popularity. Reasons to do that are probably to clear the relationship between Tara and the MC so playing the 2nd game MC don't feel like the 2nd choice, rebound guy. Won't even delve into the virgin thing, 3 words of mass destruction, sloppy seconds or cheating on previous mc. But at this point it's not even Tara anymore so why just keep the same model, create a new character and start fresh. Dev really dug itself into a hole with this thing with MC, Jaye and Tara acting as a conduit between them. Game would have progressed fine without the MC/Tara and Tara/Jaye sex scenes and the hints of her liking mc.
Imagine this Chasing sunsets starts us playing douchebag and vividly describe how douchebag and Jaye met, liked each other, fucked then douchebag left her for Tara. Prologue ends, real story starts with us playing MC now. Epic game right, guaranteed to succeed
As far as using the Tara or Lisa model in a new VN, both of those characters are very popular in Chasing Sunsets. You could put them in any story and people would want to see that. There are models that get used over and over by devs. They use models that serve their purpose and have staying power, like any actor in a movie. On top of that, Kentrr put a lot of work into those models. It is awesome, beautiful work. I can't wait to see those characters in another story.
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