VN Ren'Py Completed Chasing Sunsets [v1.0] [Stone Fox Studios]

[Skylaroo]

That is your thinking but not mine and I am not the only one, so there must be some sort of prpblem if many people are thinking that way.

I agree. The problem is that many players don't actually try to understand the characters' characteristic. This lead to many players expecting something to happen the way they want it to be rather than how it makes sense according to the characteristic of the characters involved. To be fair, we have been conditioned to be like this because this is the common practice in porn games where MC is the focus and every path is separate as if they don't exist in the same world. Also because continuity is a pain in the ass to write when there are tons of possible outcomes because they have tons of LIs. This is why Chasing Sunsets having only 2 main LI is able to actually have the character continuity that most other games don't. To me, this is a positive thing, but I can understand that others might not feel the same way.

And dev could of easily wrote things a little different to make things work, instead hed did the most convoluted bullshit method that makes xero sense and is stupid,

I'm sure you (and many others) would love to see MC pursuing both girls and then the three of them would become a throuple in a straight forward throuple-path like in other games. But that would lead to inconsistent characteristic where the throuple Jaye would be a different character than the non-throuple Jaye. For the purpose of consistency and continuity, this makes no sense for her character. By locking the throuple path behind the solo path, it makes sense for Jaye's character development where she grew from hating MC into being in a relationship with MC into feeling very secure with the relationship into willing to be in a throuple.

I understand it feels convoluted because there is no real throuple "path" in the game but there is only a throuple "ending". I'm not here to try to change your mind either. I'm only trying to explain that there's logical reason as to why things are the way they are.

Instead it's all "hey, remember that girl you've been turning down all game, let's bring her into our relationship for ..... reasons".

Did you use Joker mod? If yes, it has been confirmed that it messed the game. If no, turning down Mal all game would not result in throuple ending at all.

 

[DeemLeem12]

I'm going for Mallory route. Why does it immediately jump to Amanda threesome? What choice did I make for that to happen? Is there a way to avoid it?

EDIT: I also tried to have as low points with Jaye as possible without trying to kill her in the boat, but it doesn't change anything to the story.

 

[SonsOfLiberty]

Just some information about the upcoming updates, obviously everyone knows about the epilogue.

There will be a lighthouse mode with a guided walkthrough.

I plan to add a lighthouse mode in the update where Kent updates the art for the preceding chapters.
It will be an in-game guided walkthrough mode.
Some branches and achievements are too tricky to obtain.

First update:

To be clear, there are at least three updates left: The first will be a mid-cycle update that includes consolidation of the two divergent codebases and a massive cleanup of the earlier chapters and the removal unused images, sounds, etc.

Second update = epilogue

There is talk of "harem"

Third update:

The last will be our revamp of the first 2.5 chapters to bring things up to our state of the art. Call it the "remaster."

 

[siath70]

Except....

There is that post-credit scene saying they tested someone else's instead....



It is left ambiguous

There is a DNA test saying no, there is a post-credit scene saying they tested someone else by accident.

Oh I forgot about that, you're right Jaye sent one stateside because the island's DNA sequencer broke down. However, now that means nothing, they have already said the DNA didn't matter in how they would handle things, story about that on Jaye's side.

Frankly, the whole thing about everyone being hung up on them as siblings make no sense.
They're Step-siblings and it is 100% legal for them to get married. So, the whole incest vibe was off putting to me. The only incest in this VN was if you screw your aunt, and even then I can't remember if she was blood related or just a really close family friend.

I get the teasing, who wouldn't. But the whole oh my god we have to hide this because it's not right thing was kind of stupid. Being caught in the act and begging them to keep the secret of two non-blood related adults sleeping together was silly...

There are a few flaws in it, but every book has them. I find it easy to pull stuff apart being an author/editor, because half of what I do is look for the flaws and mistakes.

Again, all in all, I really liked the story.

 

[siath70]

There is talk of "harem"

Really, harem doesn't seem to fit with Jaye. However, another ending type is nice.
My question would be: that will need a major rewrite of multiple parts of the story to pull it off. Most girls are fluff and get a scene at most. Most of them have very little face time either. The content you will need to add to pull off a harem end will be like another two chapters. I'm all for it, I just can't see it working unless you majorly expand on the girls and story.

Most girls had one scene, so it will be like:
MC: 'So, we just screwed for the first time and I just wanted to know if you would join my harem I'm forming...'

So much rewriting will need to be done.

 

[Radnos Salazar]

Really, harem doesn't seem to fit with Jaye. However, another ending type is nice.
My question would be: that will need a major rewrite of multiple parts of the story to pull it off. Most girls are fluff and get a scene at most. Most of them have very little face time either. The content you will need to add to pull off a harem end will be like another two chapters. I'm all for it, I just can't see it working unless you majorly expand on the girls and story.

Most girls had one scene, so it will be like:
MC: 'So, we just screwed for the first time and I just wanted to know if you would join my harem I'm forming...'

So much rewriting will need to be done.

How? Didnt they just give an out of nowhere throuple on a jaye path? How a harem doesnt seem to fit her? She also said what you do with mallory and amanda, i dont want to get involved in that, so that could mean she wont mind if MC gets involved with them, If mallory is already added in the throuple, how is it difficult to imagine she wont bring in Peanut a women mallory is actually attracted to? Jaye could rope in tara as well who knows? After seeing the jaye+mall throuple became true, a harem could very well happen.

 

[Mr. Spam Yeet]

Hey everyone, so as far as I know, the game isn't really over right? I haven't played this since like update 0.7, really just have been waiting for this project to get over, I was about to download this, only to remember people saying this update is suppose to be the penultimate one

 

[SonsOfLiberty]

Hey everyone, so as far as I know, the game isn't really over right? I haven't played this since like update 0.7, really just have been waiting for this project to get over, I was about to download this, only to remember people saying this update is suppose to be the penultimate one

The main story is completed yes. Even has post credit scenes and everything.

There is an epilogue to come.

To be clear, there are at least three updates left: The first will be a mid-cycle update that includes consolidation of the two divergent codebases and a massive cleanup of the earlier chapters and the removal unused images, sounds, etc.

The second will be the epilogue which looks ahead at how your ending pans out. Effectively the final chapter.

The last will be our revamp of the first 2.5 chapters to bring things up to our state of the art. Call it the "remaster."

By next year at this time, we expect to be deep into the development of Firebreak.

 

[Mr. Spam Yeet]

The main story is completed yes. Even has post credit scenes and everything.

There is an epilogue to come.

Oh alright, I guess I'll just wait for the other 3 updates.

 

[doovel]

Thank you for confirming this. I wonder if everyone else complaining about the weird ending is also using mod.

I never used the Joker mod, these are the requirements:

as taken from augustus' post:
- Choose to be in a committed relationship with Jaye at the resort.
- In chapter 9, you need to phone a friend to get Jaye in the John Hopkins program.
- In chapter 9, after spending time at the cabin with Mallory, tell her you wish things could be different.
- In chapter 9, when you have sex with Jaye, her love score must be 95 or higher (this is probably the hardest part) and Mallory's must be 80 or higher.

If you meet all of those requirements, Jaye will offer a polyamorous relationship option after sex. Say you'll talk to Mallory.

You can get that without Joker's mod. I did them accidentally on my first Jaye run. I imagine I'm not the only one.

People might not be realising that's what is causing it?

 

[doovel]

You are in for a bad awakening my friend....

Just need to play Depraved Awakening to wash that out of your mouth. Christina is

 

[Mr_Mister]

very let down by the conclusion of the story , a lot of the threads that were still hanging on by the end of the last chapter , got resolve in minutes or got resolve out of screen . (frustrating very frustrating)

#Mc returning home : that should've been one of the most emotional scenes in the avn ( chapter 8 should've ended with this scene) the whole arc on this story started the moment Mc left home and should've ended with Mc returning home , this could've been the right time for Mc and Jaye to really mourne their parents .
just imagine Mc crying because the last time he was on his parents room they were there sleeping on their bed and now Mc is watching their empty bed , while Jaye is crying hugging the Mc as strongly as she can becuase in that moment she realized the same .
this scene doesn't need any dialogue , to be impactful and emotional.

#Jaye /Tara /Mc : reunion got resolve out of screen (throuple that made sense) , Tara was into Jaye and the Mc and she was sexually involve with both of them , that was a scene that should've been in this update.

#Peanut and her Mom: talking about her being cured should've been in the update .

#Mallory /Mc/Peanut : (throuple that made sense) talking about how thing will be from now on , now that the 3 of them are together because that was a new experience for both Mallory and Peanut .

#the cabin scene should've been longer to finish stablishing the characters and their relationships or to set up the Jaye/Mallory throuple . (easily that cabin scene should've been at least a week of them sharing more intimate stories and growing their friendship).

for some reason this chapter lacks any kind of emotional beat (with the exception of the dog scene) , the chapter felt mundane and empty .

this are my ramblings after finishing this Avn.

 

[DeemLeem12]

Thank you for confirming this. I wonder if everyone else complaining about the weird ending is also using mod.

So it's the mod that's causing the issue. I was also wondering if it's the mod that's causing the Amanda threesome. It's supposed to just be a walkthrough mod, giving hints on the choices, not outright forcing you on a path. Welp, at least the dev is going to make an official walkthrough mod.

 

[Thatmonkeyman]

What is the problem with the mod??

 

[TonyMurray]

Another good opportunity to remind people that there is a difference between "throuple" (not in this game, or at least not with Jaye and Mallory) and polyamory (achievable in this game with Jaye and Mallory). In a throuple, in this instance, Jaye and Mallory will also interact, meaning likely threesomes or just the two of them on their own, without MC. In polyamory, they won't interact (as stated by Jaye, she is not at all interested in that). MC will be able to have sex with Jaye and have sex with Mallory, but not have sex with both Jaye and Mallory at the same time. Amanda is potentially available with Mallory in that arrangement, which presumably would be threesome only, but again, Jaye will not get involved. (All of this is subject to change over time, but is based purely on what Jaye says when tabling the offer of inviting Mallory into the relationship.)

This has some really gorgeous women in it, And you do get to have sex with a good share of them. But the game for me was unsatisfying. Because all the girls are just flings, the only 2 girls that matter are Jaye and Mallory. And you only get 1 of them.

At the end of the game there are so many unanswered questions about the other girls. This would have been my favorite game if it had a Harem ending.

Well now that the game is finished, time to find something else.

the ending was meh.
peace

I guess this is a case of reality not meeting expectations. There's no harem tag, there was never an indication that there would be a harem ending. The whole game (as far as LIs go) has been about choosing between Jaye and Mallory.

So it's the mod that's causing the issue. I was also wondering if it's the mod that's causing the Amanda threesome. It's supposed to just be a walkthrough mod, giving hints on the choices, not outright forcing you on a path. Welp, at least the dev is going to make an official walkthrough mod.

The Mallory/Amanda threesome is a coded scene on the Mallory path, it's not triggered by a mod. See more below.

What is the problem with the mod??

The potential mod issue mentioned was where one player had Jaye offering the polyamory relationship despite him not really interacting with Mallory and also Jaye offering it on the polyamory path after Mallory dumped him. The only time it should be offered is where you complete the Jaye path with enough relationship points with both Jaye and Mallory and certain choices having previously been selected.

 

[Radnos Salazar]

Another good opportunity to remind people that there is a difference between "throuple" (not in this game, or at least not with Jaye and Mallory) and polyamory (achievable in this game with Jaye and Mallory). In a throuple, in this instance, Jaye and Mallory will also interact, meaning likely threesomes or just the two of them on their own, without MC. In polyamory, they won't interact (as stated by Jaye, she is not at all interested in that). MC will be able to have sex with Jaye and have sex with Mallory, but not have sex with both Jaye and Mallory at the same time. Amanda is potentially available with Mallory in that arrangement, which presumably would be threesome only, but again, Jaye will not get involved. (All of this is subject to change over time, but is based purely on what Jaye says when tabling the offer of inviting Mallory into the relationship.)

Dude you are going way to much into the meaning of the word Throuple, in a general sense people mean MC having a relationship with 2 women at the same time, further involving peanut or tara would make it a harem, even though no girls fuck each other, that would still be a harem from the male MC's perspective. Throuple,Polyamory all these words mean the same in the context of this game where MC is with 2 women at the same time.

 

[yossa999]

Dude you are going way to much into the meaning of the word Throuple, in a general sense people mean MC having a relationship with 2 women at the same time, further involving peanut or tara would make it a harem, even though no girls fuck each other, that would still be a harem from the male MC's perspective. Throuple,Polyamory all these words mean the same in the context of this game where MC is with 2 women at the same time.

Sure, except, of course, that those words mean different things, and Tony pointed that out.
Those who didn't take that into account, or decided it didn't matter, ended up playing with the wrong expectations and being unhappy with the ending.

 

[homejorz]

I wasn't following development super closely. But last I saw weren't we supposed to get another lewd scene with that blonde girl before this ended?

 

[TonyMurray]

Dude you are going way to much into the meaning of the word Throuple, in a general sense people mean MC having a relationship with 2 women at the same time, further involving peanut or tara would make it a harem, even though no girls fuck each other, that would still be a harem from the male MC's perspective. Throuple,Polyamory all these words mean the same in the context of this game where MC is with 2 women at the same time.

Sure, except, of course, that those words mean different things, and Tony pointed that out.
Those who didn't take that into account, or decided it didn't matter, ended up playing with the wrong expectations and being unhappy with the ending.

Yep, Yossa got it. It's all about expectations. And the words don't mean the same thing in context to the game, they only mean the same thing in the heads of some people, it has nothing to do with the game itself. The game uses the term "polyamory" in the character cards at the end. "Throuple" is never mentioned (unless I've missed it, which I'm open to being a possibility). And as another term has been brought in, there is no requirement for the girls to fuck each other in a harem either, they just need to be aware of each other/know there are other girls in the harem. So yes, if this is the case with Jaye, Mallory, and Amanda, it would be a harem from anyone's perspective.

 

[Pendrell]

Was there meant to be any bro/sis talk in the MC/Jaye lewd scene? Seemed like that was missing.

Pretty surprised by the overall feel of the ending. Even knowing that there is an epilogue still to come, it felt a little under-cooked to me.