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dartred

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Probably give this a kinetic tag - because it is just that. Only that you can see some alternate scenes sometimes.

Why even give "choices" when they dont matter. Would be fun to be able to fight over every girl - and maybe you could even loose some but not all... now it is just a kinetic novel, because why should I pick the bad "choice" when it resets after that and I have only the "good path" to follow?

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The choices are there for people who want to see those scenes. if you don't want to see it, you choose the other one.

The choices do matter, it's to prevent people who don't want to see it from seeing it and also give people who do want to see it a way to see it without people who don't like that coming across it on accident.

That's just the thing, I can't appease every one. You say it would be fun to lose some girls. Other would say no, it's not, don't let any girl get taken. Some will say no, just let Silvia win and have all the girls.

You can say what you want, that's easy, but it's not easy for me to give every one what they want. There just isn't a way to make 100% of the players happy.
 
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Lou111

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Just throwing in my 2 cents man.
Seems like you're taking what people want to see into account before you settle in.
I just wanted to say that what I'd like to see here is an option to turn NTR "way the fuck ON" and sit back and watch auntie fuck everyone I know. And futa on male is a must here, don't miss that opportunity cause this is probably the only game that can have the same dick in the MC that is cucking you in existence. Play the numbers.

And good luck
 

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I think the bad endings should last longer so we can see more before it rewinds
I agree. I was hoping that I could see the aunt actually "enter" and fuck the younger sister. Not what was presented here. If this is how much these "bad endings" will go, I'm out.

Dev said these types of endings will be enjoyable to watch even if they aren't canon, and it was right up until the camera angle switched and the "rewind" happened. Felt like a total cock block. If you're going to actually have the penetration happen, bloody show it man! This shit is supposed to be NTR!
 

dartred

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I think the bad endings should last longer so we can see more before it rewinds
They will go longer and contain actual animated sex. This was just chapter 1, I'm throwing you guys the teasers of what's to come.

dartred
Just throwing in my 2 cents man.
Seems like you're taking what people want to see into account before you settle in.
I just wanted to say that what I'd like to see here is an option to turn NTR "way the fuck ON" and sit back and watch auntie fuck everyone I know. And futa on male is a must here, don't miss that opportunity cause this is probably the only game that can have the same dick in the MC that is cucking you in existence. Play the numbers.

And good luck
This is still an option I'm considering. Personally, I don't like futa on male. That doesn't mean I won't do it, but it's not a priority scene I want to make.

I agree. I was hoping that I could see the aunt actually "enter" and fuck the younger sister. Not what was presented here. If this is how much these "bad endings" will go, I'm out.

Dev said these types of endings will be enjoyable to watch even if they aren't canon, and it was right up until the camera angle switched and the "rewind" happened. Felt like a total cock block. If you're going to actually have the penetration happen, bloody show it man! This shit is supposed to be NTR!
like I told ForNoFace in this same qoute. It's gonna be shown and animated, but this is CH 1, I did that on purpose lol. I think I shown more in CH 1 then most devs show in 3+ updates.
 
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Icarus Media

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I agree. I was hoping that I could see the aunt actually "enter" and fuck the younger sister. Not what was presented here. If this is how much these "bad endings" will go, I'm out.

Dev said these types of endings will be enjoyable to watch even if they aren't canon, and it was right up until the camera angle switched and the "rewind" happened. Felt like a total cock block. If you're going to actually have the penetration happen, bloody show it man! This shit is supposed to be NTR!
Whilst I agree the angle could be better and the scene longer, in defence of Dartred this is his first ever game. Learning angles, lighting, writing etc will happen. If they do not then the market will punish him for that. For any entrepreneur feedback will happen, whether in support or criticism, it's feedback. The vital thing is whether to learn from it or not.

Also dartred, all these ideas floating about have you considered making a poll? On here, patreon etc wherever with the ideas and see what the result is? Right now I hear a lot of 'Do X', 'No Do Y'. Would be good to have some tangible data rather than air.
 

Norman Knight

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amazing, the NTR/Futa fans are the only ones that got any content and still they complain, this is going to be one those games alright........

I can already see the next update, full of content to appease them . "Balanced" yeah right.
 

Icarus Media

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amazing, the NTR/Futa fans are the only ones that got any content and still they complain, this is going to be one those games alright........

I can already see the next update, full of content to appease them . "Balanced" yeah right.
Yep tar us all with the same brush, I've already explained in an earlier post how making it full of futa NTR content to the detriment of Vanilla would be shooting ourselves in the foot.
 

dartred

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amazing, the NTR/Futa fans are the only ones that got any content and still they complain, this is going to be one those games alright........

I can already see the next update, full of content to appease them . "Balanced" yeah right.
You can see next update, because I pretty much already said what's to come for early chapters. I said Silvia has abilities to skip the relationship building part and go straight for sexual acts.

That doesn't mean she will have sex every chapter.

MC will get his turn too.

Whilst I agree the angle could be better and the scene longer, in defence of Dartred this is his first ever game. Learning angles, lighting, writing etc will happen. If they do not then the market will punish him for that. For any entrepreneur feedback will happen, whether in support or criticism, it's feedback. The vital thing is whether to learn from it or not.

Also dartred, all these ideas floating about have you considered making a poll? On here, patreon etc wherever with the ideas and see what the result is? Right now I hear a lot of 'Do X', 'No Do Y'. Would be good to have some tangible data rather than air.
I won't be doing a poll, because I plan to make the game how I want it. I will take suggestions and tips into consideration, but I won't change a character or story to fit what some want.

Another dev once told me, "most suggestions you are going to get, will be jack off fantasies." They aren't their to help you build your game, they are their to try and get off.

So I'm just going to do what I think fits the story and what I think is hot for sex scenes.
 
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Rannell

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I know you are trying to tell a story here, but come on FFS. How much of a pussy do you have to be to not say anything to at BARE minimum to your mom? What? Other people can't keep secrets that they know? Why the hell would your family not want to see your bedroom and upon seeing it not have a problem with it? Yolanda 20+ years ago started with nothing and NOW she such a wimp that she can't do it again with the help of her children? Serious?!? Your story just has WAY too many holes in it. I would give it a review with a 1 star, but I will give it more of a chance to see if the story can become more plausible. One thing that would help you is if you let us know if NTR is avoidable. The premise sounds like it can be, but can it? Letting us know would also allow me to just move on as I don't review non-avoidable NTR as it's not my thing, but I know there are plenty out there that do. Being that your aunt is a hermaphrodite can you make her pregnant as revenge?
 
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Norman Knight

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Yep tar us all with the same brush, I've already explained in an earlier post how making it full of futa NTR content to the detriment of Vanilla would be shooting ourselves in the foot.
You can see next update, because I pretty much already said what's to come for early chapters. I said Aunt has abilities to skip the relationship building part and go straight for sexual acts.

That doesn't mean she will have sex every chapter.

MC will get his turn too.
I suppose time will tell no? You may think that my comments are overly harsh, but this situation is nothing new, this argument occurs as many times as a dev makes a game with 2 Paths/branches or bad endings, and it keeps happening all the way to the abandoned tag.

But to be honest at this point I'm eager to be proven wrong, and this comments of mine, being nothing more than ramblings, I truly hope this time it's different, I'm willing to come back here in a few months and offer a sincere apology.
 
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dartred

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I know you are trying to tell a story here, but come on FFS. How much of a pussy do you have to be to not say anything to at BARE minimum to your mom? What? Other people can't keep secrets that they know? Why the hell would your family not want to see your bedroom and upon seeing it not have a problem with it? Yolanda 20+ years ago started with nothing and NOW she such a wimp that she can't do it again with the help of her children? Serious?!? Your story just has WAY too many holes in it. I would give it a review with a 1 star, but I will give it more of a chance to see if the story can become more plausible. One thing that would help you is if you let us know if NTR is avoidable. The premise sounds like it can be, but can it? Letting us know would also allow me to just move on as I don't review non-avoidable NTR as it's not my thing, but I know there are plenty out there that do. Being that your aunt is a hermaphrodite can you make her pregnant as revenge?
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I marked it in-game as red when it's a NTR or futa moment too. So it feels like you haven't even played the game before you complained.

He's not "being a pussy", He's being smart. He is being forced to be silenced, because they would go homeless if he tells her. if you played the game, you would have seen that.

I said it before, but I don't remember if it was here or discord. Your comment about "She did it before, she can do it again with her children" is BS. She had her parents to fall back on, because her BF's family sure as hell wasn't going to be in the picture. If she loses this house, there is no where else to go, but the literal streets.

The whole "lets stick together and we can get through anything!" doesn't put food on the table or a house over your head.

edit: and about his bedroom, i answered that early today too. What are they suppose to do about it? They don't like it and what? Yolanda is suppose to tell Silvia to make him a new bedroom how?

You are over analyzing a porn game. While I think I did fine to rebut your claims, but you have to also let some things slide. Next you're gonna say why is MC even trying to get with any of the girls, that's disgusting. Why is the Grass always in perfect condition, it should grow unless you see a gardener maintain it. It's a porn game at the end of the day, not Citizen Kane as some one else put it.
 
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If your title has to have this song stuck in my head now, so does everyone else.



Thought it'd thumbnail, but it didn't. It's Cherish, by Kool & The Gang
 

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I suppose a way to add storyline complexity without logical complexity for the programming without creating extra branches would be that not every event is a succeed at all costs situation for the player like it is in Power Vacuum. Maybe failing one event does let the aunt get closer to one of the girls, but not to the point where all is lost. Maybe the player has to choose between one of the girls in one scenario (like one girl needs to go to the pool for swimming class and another needs help with homework - whoever you help, aunt is going to help the other). This is because even if the player loses points to the aunt, they can be recouped and the fail state only happens if the player gets too low for that girl.
 

QuantumVNs

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I'm sorry Dartred, but I'm going have to agree with Rannell and others. This is just sloppy writing and your apathy about it is unfortunate, not just for the game but the entire VN genre. Suspension of disbelief is one thing, but you can't just abuse it like you've been doing already, and so early in the game. How is it that MC was able to just pop into a store and get what is clearly a tailored outfit just like that? No matter how high priority the tailor makes it, no matter their skill and experience, a fit like that takes fucking time. And you didn't properly account for it! MC should be walking around in dingy clothes for at least a day, probably more if the leather jacket needed to be tailored. And don't get me started on the absurdity of a man in this 20s wearing a bolo tie.
Literally unplayable.
 

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I marked it in-game as red when it's a NTR or futa moment too. So it feels like you haven't even played the game before you complained.

He's not "being a pussy", He's being smart. He is being forced to be silenced, because they would go homeless if he tells her. if you played the game, you would have seen that.

I said it before, but I don't remember if it was here or discord. Your comment about "She did it before, she can do it again with her children" is BS. She had her parents to fall back on, because her BF's family sure as hell wasn't going to be in the picture. If she loses this house, there is no where else to go, but the literal streets.

The whole "lets stick together and we can get through anything!" doesn't put food on the table or a house over your head.

edit: and about his bedroom, i answered that early today too. What are they suppose to do about it? They don't like it and what? Yolanda is suppose to tell Silvia to make him a new bedroom how?

You are over analyzing a porn game. While I think I did fine to rebut your claims, but you have to also let some things slide. Next you're gonna say why is MC even trying to get with any of the girls, that's disgusting. Why is the Grass always in perfect condition, it should grow unless you see a gardener maintain it. It's a porn game at the end of the day, not Citizen Kane as some one else put it.
I think you did make some good points and hey thanks for responding. I'm glad you are making NTR avoidable as that changes things dramatically in my eyes.

I definitely played the game, I did however choose all green and didn't see the "red" stuff until after your reply as I normally wouldn't play that part anyway, but wanted to see some of your points.

About him not telling anyone I still think people are such pushovers when threatened like that. How is she going to know? All the other person would need to say is that they overheard someone talking about, saw it when she came out of the bathroom, saw it from under the skirt. There are many plausible ways. Also when something like that happens there is always someone who you confide in. Why he wouldn't tell the older of the two sisters or his mom is beyond me, but the story isn't my head, it's in yours. I can only see things from what you have told me. The way the story is told it leads me to believe that the older of the two is somewhat of a confidant.

I don't think the stick together part is BS, people do it all the time in real life. If she sells the house there has to be some equity in it so that they could move somewhere less expensive. I mean they have 20+ years of payments of probably a 30 year loan. I mean you did say they lived in the same place the entire time. Of course they could have had a second or third mortgage I guess. I am of course putting real world scenarios in my head instead of porn world scenarios.. anyway... It is plausible enough your way that I concede your point.

As for the bedroom I would have at least like to have seen the discussion. Also it would show that the Aunt is not as benevolent as she comes across as compared to how she is treating the woman. The girls shared a bedroom before I don't see how they wouldn't offer to do the same for their brother. Anyway.. again I see your points and just because it doesn't make sense to me doesn't mean that it couldn't be plausible your way. I just would react differently if I was personally in that situation, they of course, are not me.

Yes I tend to overanalyze things as why shouldn't everyone see things my way?? (of course being sarcastic). Umm no I am totally into incest for some reason. Hell I didn't even know that until I started playing AVN's. Along those lines I'd love the MC fuck the aunt and make her pregnant. So that's how fucked up my mind is on incest. Hopefully that is in your plans.

With everything being said I am very interested in seeing where you take this in spite of my complaints of how I would be doing something differently if I was the MC. Thanks again for taking the time to respond.
 
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